How can Pakistan Navy defend itself from Brahmos cruse missile ?

[Indian_Patriot]

They only way to possibly neutralise a US carrier fleet is the Chinese approach of satellite guided DF-21s salvo fired. Or a suicidal sub captain might be able to disable a carrier if he gets lucky.

 

[shaheenmissile]

No in 70s Indian navy had these

P-15_Termit

Which ate PNS khaibar and Shah jahan alive and it wasn't even supersonic

You cannot compare PN of 1971 and now.. Its a different beast now.

 

[Basel]

Highly impossible??? You know the US shoots down supersonic missiles regularly... right?

Our ESSM will suffice too - ESSM Intercept of High-Diving Threat Proves Expanded Defensive Capability

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I think we'll do just fine against Brahmos too.

Yes you do because USSR had supersonic anti ship missiles since long and USN had to come up with solution to defend it CBGs from them so nothing special in Brahmos for USN.

What about P-17A and P-15B?

How much far their SAMs can hit targets, that is very important as PAF & PN combined will go after them with standoff weapons.

 

[shaheenmissile]

Brahmos has a range of 300 km. And what exactly does PN have in its inventory?

this

 

[Indian_Patriot]

this

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Brahmos has many modes of attack from top-strike to S-bend and other manoeuvres seconds before impact. No chance try again.

 

[kaku1]

How much far their SAMs can hit targets, that is very important as PAF & PN combined will go after them with standoff weapons.

Umm, Nirbhay. BrahMos-2 and Barak-8 ER.

this

So there is no CIWS on Indian Ships?

 

[Indian_Patriot]

Barak-8ER will be our SM class of missile equivalent. Very very sophisticated and powerful air-defence missiles with 100 km+ range.

 

[Basel]

Umm, Nirbhay. BrahMos-2 and Barak-8 ER.

you think Nirbhay and Brahmos are SAMs??

 

[Indian Patriot]

We both can be Indian Patriots can't we?

Stop trolling me you imposter.

 

[shaheenmissile]

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Brahmos has many modes of attack from top-strike to S-bend and other manoeuvres seconds before impact. No chance try again.

well this gun is not designed to shoot chicken..it is for missiles and designers knew about these standard maneuvers of most anti ship missiles...not just Brahmos

 

[kaku1]

you think Nirbhay and Brahmos are SAMs??

I am giving you whole wep package of P-15B and P-17A,, the Nirbhay going to be a minimum range of 1000 Km. Going to be easy to target Karachi from our own backyard.

 

[Indian_Patriot]

Stop trolling me you imposter.

Trolling how?

well this gun is not designed to shoot chicken..it is for missiles and designers knew about these standard maneuvers of most anti ship missiles...not just Brahmos

It might as well have been designed to shoot chickens for all the good its going to do you in a salvo launched Brahmos missile attack.

 

[Indian Patriot]

PN ships will not go in areas where PAF can't provide proper air cover and PN P-3s, subs and PAF maritime strike package is responsible for making sure that IN dose not got into position from where they can launch brahmos.

PN is also considering to install C-602s (400+ km range, PN already have coastal batteries) or similar system on its upcoming ships which will allow them to go after IN ships as they will be able to launch them without coming in range of IN's anti ship missiles.

And the IN aircraft carrier is for show? LOL!! IN will take the fight to Pakistan. PN will always be fighting a defensive war.

Brahmos is anti-ship not land-attack. Nirbhay with a range of 1500 km is for that role. By the time you induct C-602 IN will induct Brahmos-2. PN cannot match IN in at least another 20 years. PN frigates weigh 2,200 tonnes. IN Shivalik class is 6,000 tonne.

 

[shaheenmissile]

I am giving you whole wep package of P-15B and P-17A,, the Nirbhay going to be a minimum range of 1000 Km. Going to be easy to target Karachi from our own backyard.

also mention the other side of "Package"
fire on submarines...sailors dying...submarine sinking in port

 

[Basel]

I am giving you whole wep package of P-15B and P-17A,, the Nirbhay going to be a minimum range of 1000 Km. Going to be easy to target Karachi from our own backyard.

And you think PN has not updated its defenses against air threats? PAF have ZDKs deployed over coastal areas to track ships and air activity during hostile time so CMs like nirbhay will find it very hard to by pass radar and other sensor.