How can Pakistan Navy defend itself from Brahmos cruse missile ?

[Basel]

So you feel confident that you can stop a salvo attack from Mach 3 Brahmos but we can't stop a 0.8 mach Harpoon. Hilarious.

What is hilarious is your knowledge about Naval warfare and ego.

 

[SHAMK9]

after the US takes out your nukes.

...? waiting ever since we first got them

 

[Indian Patriot]

What is hilarious is your knowledge about Naval warfare and ego.

4, just FOUR, missile boats ransacked karacchi harbor and not even a PN tug-boat was to be seen anywhere. Don't lecture about naval warfare when such an audacious attack takes place with 100% success and zero percent casualty.

Pakistan Navy deploys Chinese C-602 cruise missile

Frontline units of Pakistan Navy have been equipped with the C-602 anti-ship cruise missiles purchased from China, according to Kanwa Defense Review published by Andrei Chang, also known as Pinkov, a Canadian military analyst.

Pakistan ordered about 120 C-602 anti-ship cruise missiles from China back in 2009. The first batch of the missiles, enough to equip a company, were delivered in 2011. After personnel completed training on using the missiles, the Pakistani government said that the C-602s had already been deployed by frontline naval units. The missiles were purchased to provide a countermeasure to India’s BrahMos supersonic cruise missile, which has a range of 290 kilometres.
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The anti-ship cruise missiles have an estimated range of 280 km with a speed of 0.8 mach. The Kanwa Review said that the accuracy of the C-602 can be increased gradually if a deal is made between the two countries. Pakistan is currently the only foreign operator of the C-602.

Pakistan Navy deploys Chinese C-602 cruise missile - thenews.com.pk

Lets wait till the deal is made. According to kanwa review of course.

 

[Saifullah Sani]

4, just FOUR, missile boats ransacked karacchi harbor and not even a PN tug-boat was to be seen anywhere. Don't lecture about naval warfare when such an audacious attack takes place with 100% success and zero percent casualty.



Lets wait till the deal is made. According to kanwa review of course.

read my post carefully

The first batch of the missiles, enough to equip a company, were delivered in 2011.

 

[ares]

It will be not easy for IN to come close enough to PN ships to launch Brahmos, MKIs will have more chance of firing them then your IN ships.

Why, what will stop them from coming close enough?

In last naval war between India and Pakistan, Indian navy was was even able to sink, Pakistani Navy ships sitting in their harbors from a distance of 30 Kms..with their Styx missiles..and neither PAF or PN were able to even scratch these attacking ships.

This is but a 300 Km missile.

 

[Sneaker]

There is one sureshot solution with Pakistan. Don't go for war with India.

 

[shaheenmissile]

There is one sureshot solution with Pakistan. Don't go for war with India.

Indians and their Bravado

Why, what will stop them from coming close enough?

In last naval war between India and Pakistan, Indian navy was was even able to sink, Pakistani Navy ships sitting in their harbors from a distance of 30 Kms..with their Styx missiles..and neither PAF or PN were able to even scratch these attacking ships.

This is but a 300 Km missile.

Makes me wonder why they fitted IFR on these...

 

[ares]

Indians and their Bravado


Makes me wonder why they fitted IFR on these...

Perhaps have enough endurance, to save Pakistani ships from these.

Here is what, a single squadron PAF mirage 5 maritime strike aircraft are up against

11 IN Sea Harriers
45 IN Mig 29 Ks
1 Squadron of IAF Jaguar Maritime Strike aircrafts
40 Su 30 MKIs for especially built for Maritime Strike role.

In future PAF Mirage 5s maritime strike role will be taken over by JF-17s
Where as IN sea harriers will be replaced by Tejas MK2

 

[OTTOMAN]

No one in Pakistan navy or any where in Pakistan care about Brahmos or its being cruise or not!

 

[shaheenmissile]

Perhaps have enough endurance, to save Pakistani ships from these.

Here is what, a single squadron PAF mirage 5 maritime strike aircraft are up against

11 IN Sea Harriers
45 IN Mig 29 Ks
1 Squadron of IAF Jaguar Maritime Strike aircrafts
40 Su 30 MKIs for especially built for Maritime Strike role.

In future PAF Mirage 5s maritime strike role will be taken over by JF-17s
Where as IN sea harriers will be replaced by Tejas MK2

All Naval exercises are carried out taking that into account.
Why do you think Pakistan has more Maritime patrol and AWACS aircrafts than India?

 

[ares]

All Naval exercises are carried out taking that into account.
Why do you think Pakistan has more Maritime patrol and AWACS aircrafts than India?

Pakistan does not have more maritime patrol aircrafts than India

Indian Navy has

8 Tu 142.
5 IL 38s
8 P-8Is (12 more will be ordered)
32 Dornier 228s

Pakistan Navy has

7 P-3C Orions( Of 10 P3C ordered, 1 crashed, 2 were destroyed)
2 Atlantiques

As far as Awacs are concerned

PAF has

4 ZDK 03s
PAF had ordered 4 Erieyes..one was destroyed and two were badly damaged(have those been repaired?)

Where as IAF

3 Phalcons(about to order 2 more)
3 Embraer AWACS on order.

 

[shaheenmissile]

Pakistan does not have more maritime patrol aircrafts than India

Indian Navy has

8 Tu 142.
5 IL 38s
8 P-8Is (12 more will be ordered)
32 Dornier 228s

Pakistan Navy has

7 P-3C Orions( Of 10 P3C ordered, 1 crashed, 2 were destroyed)
2 Atlantiques

As far as Awacs are concerned

PAF has

4 ZDK 03s
PAF had ordered 4 Erieyes..one was destroyed and two were badly damaged(have those been repaired?)

Where as IAF

3 Phalcons(about to order 2 more)
3 Embraer AWACS on order.

The TU-142 are very old to add any value.
Dornier 228 is designated Muti purpose by Indian Navy,not Maritime patrol.
The only valuable asst here are the P-8i

Pakistan navy has 7 Re-fitted modernized P-3C orions and large fleet of Drones.

Compared to How much shoreline India has,Pakistan has a very small shoreline to worry about.
India has 7000 Km of mainland Coast line and if you add Andaman and Nicobar in the equation it blows out of proportions.

Pakistan only has 1200 Km of Coastline to worry about and 7 Orions are more than enough.

 

[ares]

The TU-142 are very old to add any value.
Dornier 228 is designated Muti purpose by Indian Navy,not Maritime patrol.
The only valuable asst here are the P-8i

Pakistan navy has 7 Re-fitted modernized P-3C orions and large fleet of Drones.

Compared to How much shoreline India has,Pakistan has a very small shoreline to worry about.
India has 7000 Km of mainland Coast line and if you add Andaman and Nicobar in the equation it blows out of proportions.

Pakistan only has 1200 Km of Coastline to worry about and 7 Orions are more than enough.

TU 142 entered service 1988, your Atlantiques were delivered in 1976, yet 2 remain in service. Even your first 3 P3 were ordered in 1988, and rest of your P-3Cs are actually second hand upgraded P-3Bs . Tu 142 have been upgraded to extend their service life by 16 years and are to be integrated with Brahmos missile.

IL 38 have been upgraded with sea dragon suites.

Indian Navy Dornier 228 are being fitted with Elta EL/M-2022A (V3) radars for maritime surveillance, yes they do not carry any weapons, but they can instrumental in tracking the movement of Pakistani Naval fleet..can relay the coordinates to to call in a air strike.

It was ICG Do-228 equipped with MEL radar, that searched and tracked Pakistani boat, which was destroyed on Dec 31.

With regards big coast line, in case a war , India does not need to keep tabs on entire coast line, but just keep track of movements of Pakistani surface and submarine fleet.(which is not that big to begin with)

Regardless, your assumption of Pakistan maintaining a bigger maritime surveillance fleet than India is false.

 

[shaheenmissile]

^^ Yaeh the Wooden wooden boat which was Chased for an hour by Indian navy war ship
Bollywood Navy with lots of Dramay.

 

[ares]

^^ Yaeh the Wooden wooden boat which was Chased for an hour by Indian navy war ship
Bollywood Navy with lots of Dramay.

Looks like you do not have any more relevant points to debate, therefore moved on to pointless banter.

My point was it was ICG Dornier 228, equipped with maritime surveillance radar, which was tasked with searching and tracking the Pakistani boat..and thats what it did.

It was ICG and not Indian Navy ,which chased the wooden boat.

Had you been ever been out to sea, you would know, it takes hours for one ship to catch up with another, even when they are visible to each other by naked eye.

Out at sea under condition normal visibility..a small boat becomes visible at range of 15 NM at most.

Supposedly both the ships see each other at same time and are moving in the same direction they are separated by a distance of 15 NM.

Even if ICG ship was doing 25 knots and small fishing boat can do 15 knots ..it will take more that one and half hours to catch with the boat.