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'Horrible': Christian churches throughout Egypt stormed, torched

One might even say that the army's crackdown and the pain inflicted on the islamists is actually Divine retribution for their heinous act of burning Holy Places like mad rabid dogs.God doesn't hit you with a stick you know....

Lol only 'God' was left out among all stupidity about power wrangling , protests,democracy , religion bashing , religion counter bashing, killing , and more killing ....thanks you involved 'God' in current killings ....

God will book place for you in heaven ...for your kindness to involve him in such " Divine " matters .....
 
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One might even say that the army's crackdown and the pain inflicted on the islamists is actually Divine retribution for their heinous act of burning Holy Places like mad rabid dogs.God doesn't hit you with a stick you know....

Lol Only " God " was left out from utter stupidity about power wrangling , democracy, religion bashing, religion counter-bashing . killing and more killing ....

God will book place for you in heaven for being so kind to him. Thanks for involving "God" in such 'divine' matters

Repeat post ....sorry !
 
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If the constitution is messed up, everything that follows is likely to be equally messed up.
You got that right.

Look at it this way...EVERY country needs a dictator. You read me correctly. An American is tacitly supporting a dictatorship -- of sort.

A constitution (lower case wording) is a dictator -- of sort. Assuming that the CONTENTS is sufficiently neutral, as in apolitical (not non-ideological), what make this dictator different and possibly superior to a human dictatorship is that it is impervious to being sway by fleeting whims. You cannot whispers into its ears and later deny your actions. That said, it does not mean a constitutional dictatorship is immune from being abused, but again, it depends on the CONTENTS that were written when this dictator was being created.

The contents of a constitution are reflections of the attitudes of the document's founders. Do they know their times on this life are finite? Do they love the country and its people and that they want to bequeath to the country as much a benevolent dictator as possible for as long as possible?

Take the US Constitution (upper case wording) for example. From the beginning, when this non-human dictator was being created, the collective attitude of its founders was that a government is a necessary evil -- EVIL. Were they in their right minds? What kind of leadership is it when it blatantly believes that the government it leads is an 'evil' institution? According to this non-human dictator, the only authority it has are those conferred -- thru consent -- to it by the people it rules over. This is completely opposite from a human dictator whose normal character and behaviors are acquisitive and possessive: I take from you because I can and I will fight to your death to keep what I took from you. This is why the US Constitution is a radical and subversive document, especially when it was created. It is a dictator that limits its power.

The argument that the US is not a democracy but instead a constitutional republic -- is false. The US is BOTH a constitutional (dictatorship) republic and a democracy. The character (contents) of this dictator is sufficiently resistant to alteration but can be changed and changed only thru highly involved process. No President can simply write his attitude into the Constitution. Any bill that is speculated to become law by the many leaders of the country, who are popularly elected (democracy) by the people, must pass Constitutional muster, meaning the bill must be examined and debated by the people to see if violate the philosophical foundation of the Constitution. Human dictators do not have this character. Whatever the human dictator say, it is instantly law.

A constitutional dictatorship is no guarantor of peace and prosperity but at least the people have a chance to have their views be instrumental in the characters of this non-human dictator. The people can plead to foreigners that they suffer under a human dictator and most likely they will receive sympathy and moral support for the removal of said human dictator. But if they chose to create a constitution and if they were careless in examining the list of characters to be the philosophical foundation of this dictator, they will have no one to blame but themselves when their lives are miserable and their country in continuous turmoil.
 
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According to my coptic friend who is in Egypt right now (cairo) Muslims were standing around churches today to protect them from the crazies.
 
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muslims protecting a Church in Egypt
 
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Violence must be abjured ...wherever it occurs ...whenever it occurs....whatever is the reason that leads to it ....
I am sorry if any Indians have done that ...

It's not just Indians. Almost everyone here, from whatever background, shows double standards.
 
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You got that right.

Look at it this way...EVERY country needs a dictator. You read me correctly. An American is tacitly supporting a dictatorship -- of sort.

A constitution (lower case wording) is a dictator -- of sort. Assuming that the CONTENTS is sufficiently neutral, as in apolitical (not non-ideological), what make this dictator different and possibly superior to a human dictatorship is that it is impervious to being sway by fleeting whims. You cannot whispers into its ears and later deny your actions. That said, it does not mean a constitutional dictatorship is immune from being abused, but again, it depends on the CONTENTS that were written when this dictator was being created.

The contents of a constitution are reflections of the attitudes of the document's founders. Do they know their times on this life are finite? Do they love the country and its people and that they want to bequeath to the country as much a benevolent dictator as possible for as long as possible?

Take the US Constitution (upper case wording) for example. From the beginning, when this non-human dictator was being created, the collective attitude of its founders was that a government is a necessary evil -- EVIL. Were they in their right minds? What kind of leadership is it when it blatantly believes that the government it leads is an 'evil' institution? According to this non-human dictator, the only authority it has are those conferred -- thru consent -- to it by the people it rules over. This is completely opposite from a human dictator whose normal character and behaviors are acquisitive and possessive: I take from you because I can and I will fight to your death to keep what I took from you. This is why the US Constitution is a radical and subversive document, especially when it was created. It is a dictator that limits its power.

The argument that the US is not a democracy but instead a constitutional republic -- is false. The US is BOTH a constitutional (dictatorship) republic and a democracy. The character (contents) of this dictator is sufficiently resistant to alteration but can be changed and changed only thru highly involved process. No President can simply write his attitude into the Constitution. Any bill that is speculated to become law by the many leaders of the country, who are popularly elected (democracy) by the people, must pass Constitutional muster, meaning the bill must be examined and debated by the people to see if violate the philosophical foundation of the Constitution. Human dictators do not have this character. Whatever the human dictator say, it is instantly law.

A constitutional dictatorship is no guarantor of peace and prosperity but at least the people have a chance to have their views be instrumental in the characters of this non-human dictator. The people can plead to foreigners that they suffer under a human dictator and most likely they will receive sympathy and moral support for the removal of said human dictator. But if they chose to create a constitution and if they were careless in examining the list of characters to be the philosophical foundation of this dictator, they will have no one to blame but themselves when their lives are miserable and their country in continuous turmoil.

Thanks for nice analysis ...

On lighter note .... " Ingrained, naturally-born ' Dictatorship' values conferred by US constitution to its regime shows up in its dealings with rest of the world ...."
 
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@ gambit : Sorry for twisting your words and deviation from thread...

It's not just Indians. Almost everyone here, from whatever background, shows double standards.

we should try our best to 'right' the 'wrong ' .... I feel all the more sorry when my Indian brothers do it ...
 
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Well for me is a House of God,a Holy Place and defiling is a capital sin.Btw,i think the same about Mosques and Synagogues,we might have different customs,pray differently but we all follow one God and we should expect repect for the places where He is worshipped.The MB members are burning His houses down and there is no wonder that they get what they get in return.

You are suffering from too much overdose of 'God ' .....Get 'human' first !

" Children of God " are getting killed ....and you are worked up with burning of "House of God "
 
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muslims protecting a Church in Egypt

my dear friend i have seen few peacefull muslims,but at same time i have see thousands of violent muslims in my life ,just posting a pic of muslim protecting a chruch doesnt mean all muslims are peacefull,i have many pics of hindus saving muslim in gujurat massacre and christians saving thousands of muslims in bosnia..
 
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my dear friend i have seen few peacefull muslims,but at same time i have see thousands of violent muslims in my life ,just posting a pic of muslim protecting a chruch doesnt mean all muslims are peacefull,i have many pics of hindus saving muslim in gujurat massacre and christians saving thousands of muslims in bosnia..

I havent come across any non violent hindu, their eyes reflect hatred, they are all violent barbarians by choice !!
 
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my dear friend i have seen few peacefull muslims,but at same time i have see thousands of violent muslims in my life ,just posting a pic of muslim protecting a chruch doesnt mean all muslims are peacefull,i have many pics of hindus saving muslim in gujurat massacre and christians saving thousands of muslims in bosnia..

Appreciate some of the very " few " good things happening around....that way we can keep "goodness" alive

I havent come across any non violent hindu, their eyes reflect hatred, they are all violent barbarians by choice !!

If ''you " haven't come across any non violent "hindu" ( we like to call ourselves "Indian" - by the way ) , then it's '' your'' fault ...

Why blame us if you have "closed" your eyes and can't see us !
 
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Fascinating. Who are these Muslims protecting the church from? From other Muslims trying to burn it to the ground, right?

probably from paid extortionists? why be so judgmental, the world is not made up with indians, who go in bulk and burn other's religious places !
 
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