Ayush
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yes please start talking
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yes please start talking
if u call destroying chruches as civil war as a christian myself then i should also call gujarat massacare a civil war
**** off with your retarded argument, the perpetrator of Ambon massacre is RMS (Republik Maluku Selatan), they incites riot and communal conflict with religion disguise as cover to get access of military EQuipment and sympathizer among aparatus government like military and Police. Those imbecile get what they want until some military units from Java and Sumatra comes and restore the order. And for your info, there is Moslem members in the ranks of RMS.
Then I'll say Morsi (and the Egyptian muslim brotherhood) was/were actually good enough to be allowed to finish the term for which they were elected.
That also solidifies (in my mind at least) my viewpoint that this coup by the Egyptian military and Mubarak clan is an illegal one.
Eventually the military has to allow democratic elections again. I'd advise the Egyptian muslim brotherhood not to start a civil war by large outdoor demonstrations, but rather patiently await the next elections, and participate in those again, perhaps with more promises to work on economic opportunties for all Egyptians as well as state protection for minorities.
yes please start talking
yeah like one unused mosque destroyed in your history and you moan and ***** for generations. Pathetic. This is what happens when the whole world treats you guys with velvet gloves. You guys need a massive dose of desensitization .
yeah like one unused mosque destroyed in your history and you moan and ***** for generations. Pathetic. This is what happens when the whole world treats you guys with velvet gloves. You guys need a massive dose of desensitization .
So I guess every unused temple that is historical should also have same fate as Babri Masjid
Next thing you know, your brethren might attack and destroy Taj Mahal too.
So, according to you
Muslim in RMS used Christian to Kill Muslim to Establish Christian Republic?
Sorry but, Haha
RMS Used they're own religion which is christian(and they clearly get support from chruch) to clean Muslim in there and Establish Christian Republic
For your Information, it was well know in "Acang" that "Obet" want to establish Republik Maluku Serani not Republik Maluku Selatan
So, according to you
Muslim in RMS used Christian to Kill Muslim to Establish Christian Republic?
Sorry but, Haha
RMS Used they're own religion which is christian(and they clearly get support from chruch) to clean Muslim in there and Establish Christian Republic
For your Information, it was well know in "Acang" that "Obet" want to establish Republik Maluku Serani not Republik Maluku Selatan
One of the primary financiers of the Tamarod anti-democracy movement is an Egyptian Copt who owns a major TV channel and several Egyptian media. The Coptic Pope has been vocal in his support of the anti-democracy thugs.
All of this doesn't justify the attacks on regular Copts, but the same Indians who are shedding crocodile tears here were the same ones justifying attacks on mosques in Britain/US because it is "understandable backlash".
Egypt has been badly messed up. The main problem is the difficulty introducing democracy to people who simply don't get it, especially in this time(indians don't get it either but we have grown accustomed to it). Everybody wants everything yesterday, they simply think protests are a substitute for governance. Elections have no sanctity and they want democracy.......... My own opinion has always been that democracy works best & probably only in secular countries. If the constitution is messed up, everything that follows is likely to be equally messed up. Egypt should have had a constitution that was secular and then even the MB would have been allowed to govern but with caveats, any fear of the minority/opposition would have found release in in-built pressure valves in the system itself. Otherwise there is always too much pressure from the core supporters to run with their agenda and too much fear of what might happen in the oposition. It happens in India (right wing hindu groups pressurising the BJP), happens in the U.S. (tea party & religious extremists pressurising the Republican party) but what keeps things moving is the constitution & the courts who are charged with protecting that. Knowing that the constitution will protect your rights prevents widespread panic & the disruptions that will automatically come with it. Egypt lacked that, the MB simply pushed too much on many of the party's core ideas & the resultant backlash was massive because the system had no in-built pressure releasers. Democracy is not just about elections, no idea however much supported by the majority should be rammed down the throats of the opposition. That idea though is from an evolved form of democracy & not always possible even in countries with long experience of it (U.S., India are good examples). Expecting Egypt to manage itself as a democracy without first building institutions was simply a recipe for failure. What has happened now is quite simply a burial of democracy & the start of a long & bitter struggle for power. The MB feels cheated & rightly so. Any challenge to their government must have been made through institutions & not by the mob & army working in tandem. All governments lose support, that is no basis for removing them before their time. Any government that is formed after whatever election in Egypt will face the same truth. A permanent state of revolution is not a recipe for nation building.
My complaint is not so much about the Pope but the fact that this military coup is supported by wealthy businessmen who are Mubarak loyalists. Many of them happen to be Copts, and the media narrative is that Morsi supporters are "Islamists" because that's how you sell your cause to the global media: paint your opponents as "Islamists".
In effect this has turned into a religious war and the blame for putting religion at the center of the debate lies with the Mubarak loyalists controlling the media.