Hong Kong Protest Against Extradition Proposal Draws Hundreds of Thousands

[JSCh]

So everything return to status quo for now. Nothing change?

What about the murder suspect for that HK girl killed in Taiwan? He go free?

 

[bbccdd1470]

So everything return to status quo for now. Nothing change?

What about the murder suspect for that HK girl killed in Taiwan? He go free?

Yeah, he is most likely to go free, and Carrie Lam has apologized personally to victim's parent that her daughter won't able to get her justice. Nothing is never changed, her gov't is now in governance trouble since opposition will now protest violently and brainwash the youngers to riot everytime they don't get what they want. Oppostion is now protesting her to resign and release the rioters. No status quo even since the first day the agenda is not about the extradition treaty, but gaining bargain power in the current trade war and protecting their spy network.

 

[Dai Toruko]

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

Beijing needs to purge the HKSAR government directly now. There is no other way to restore order.

LOL. The decision was taken after consulting Beijing.

 

[JSCh]

Central government supports, respects and understands decision to suspend Hong Kong’s extradition bill
By Liu Caiyu Source:Global Times Published: 2019/6/15 20:36:41

Three government departments including the Liaison Office of the Central People's Government in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (SAR), the Hong Kong and Macao Affairs Office of the State Council and Chinese foreign ministry all expressed support, respect and understanding of Hong Kong government's decision to suspend the extradition bill on Saturday.

Carrie Lam Cheng Yet-ngor, the SAR Chief Executive announced Saturday that the SAR government will suspend the process of amendments to the SAR's Fugitive Offenders Ordinance and Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters Ordinance.

A spokesperson from the Hong Kong and Macao Affairs Office of the State Council said that Carrie Lam made the decision, in order to more widely listen to the views of the community and restore calm to the community as soon as possible. "We support, respect and understand this decision," the spokesperson said.

All the three departments said that the central government has fully affirmed the work of the chief executive and the SAR government and will continue to firmly support the chief executive and the SAR government in their administration of the law and will work together with people from all walks of life to safeguard Hong Kong's prosperity and stability.

In February, the SAR government initiated the amendments which would have not only helped deal with the transfer of suspects for trials involving Hong Kong residents suspected of being murdered in Taiwan, but would also help close the current loopholes in the legal system. It is necessary and justified to jointly fight crime and demonstrate the rule of law and justice, the spokesperson said.

Protesters took to Hong Kong streets in recent days to voice their opposition to the amendments to the extradition bill, but Wednesday's demonstrations near the Legislative Council (LegCo) office of Hong Kong turned into a riot leaving almost 80 people injured. The bill could allow the Chinese mainland to extradite criminals from Hong Kong.

Some 22 police officers were injured after being attacked with bricks and metal poles, media reports said. Hong Kong organizations supported the police in upholding the rule of law and denounced the violence that was backed by foreign forces.

Hong Kong police are the guardian of public safety and social peace and they enjoy wide acclaim for their professional law enforcement. The central government strongly condemns the violent acts, firmly supports the police to uphold the law, and protect the rule of law and social security in Hong Kong, the spokesperson from the Hong Kong and Macao Affairs Office said.

Geng Shuang, spokesperson of the foreign ministry, noted on Saturday that since Hong Kong returned to the People's Republic of China, the policies of "one country two systems" and the people of Hong Kong governing Hong Kong have been fully implemented. The rights and freedom of Hong Kong people are fully guaranteed.

Suspending the extradition bill reflects the Hong Kong government's respects for democracy and the rule of law and aims to reach a stronger consensus among the public, analysts said after the SAR announced the bill had been suspended.

"Delaying the bill means the SAR government will hear more advice from the people who will give reasons why they support or oppose the bill , and try to reach a consensus," Tian Feilong, an associate professor at Beihang University in Beijing and an expert on Hong Kong, told the Global Times on Saturday.

The public consultation period for soliciting public opinions was a bit short and urgent, Tian said.

From the beginning of the process, the SAR government fully abided by the Basic Law in dealing with the amendments to the extradition bill, just as it is doing now by suspending the bill after people expressed their opposition, Fan Peng, a research fellow at the Institute of Political Science under the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, told the Global Times on Friday.

The Hong Kong government had made adjustments during deliberations over the bill. They raised the threshold for extradition to those facing possible sentences of seven years or longer from the previous four years. They also excluded from extradition people charged with political crimes, said Fan.

Suspending the bill doesn't mean it has been withdrawn, but there is a chance it could be, Fan noted.

The Liaison Office of the Central People's Government in the SAR stressed on Saturday that it believes the Hong Kong community will work together and hold rational discussions, accurately understand the content of the amendments, broaden the consensus of the community and safeguard the image of the rule of law in Hong Kong.

Fan also stressed that the US has been playing a "hateful" role in provoking incidents in Hong Kong to attempt to sabotage the stability of Hong Kong.

Chinese Foreign Ministry also frequently made comments slamming the US for pointing fingers at the internal affairs of Hong Kong.

On Saturday, Geng emphasized that Hong Kong is a special administrative region of China. Hong Kong affairs are purely China's internal affairs. No country, organization or individual has the right to intervene.

Maintaining Hong Kong's prosperity and stability is not only in the interests of China but also in the interests of all countries in the world. China's determination to safeguard national sovereignty, security and development interests and safeguard Hong Kong's prosperity and stability is unwavering, Geng said.

Geng previously said on Friday that messing up Hong Kong will do no good for the US, and China has urged some US officials to respect basic facts, abandon prejudice, and stop using the act to interfere in China's internal affairs.

 

[JSCh]

Yeah, he is most likely to go free, and Carrie Lam has apologized personally to victim's parent that her daughter won't able to get her justice. Nothing is never changed, her gov't is now in governance trouble since opposition will now protest violently and brainwash the youngers to riot everytime they don't get what they want. Oppostion is now protesting her to resign and release the rioters. No status quo even since the first day the agenda is not about the extradition treaty, but gaining bargain power in the current trade war and protecting their spy network.

You really think that this incident has any effect on the trade war bargaining?

China resolutely object to US or other country from interfering in HK internal affair, and would NO WAY bargain with sovereignty. That is a prime principle.

Anyway, the extradition law is an issue that I think is not on par with the issues that China is negotiating with in the trade war, those issues are mainly strategic issue that affect the whole nation future.

And regarding US spy network in HK, I don't think they would get any stronger if the extradition law did not pass, so nothing change.

 

[bbccdd1470]

You really think that this incident has any effect on the trade war bargaining?

China resolutely object to US or other country from interfering in HK internal affair, and would NO WAY bargain with sovereignty. That is a prime principle.

Anyway, the extradition law is an issue that I think is not on par with the issues that China is negotiating with in the trade war, those issues are mainly strategic issue that affect the whole nation future.

And regarding US spy network in HK, I don't think they would get any stronger if the extradition law did not pass, so nothing change.

We know China won't backdown for anything of HK but American gov't may think differently, Trump adminsration once thought China will sign anything under the pressure of tariffs. US only want chaos (with fasle flag) in HK and excuse to embargo China with EU (EU may join due to democratic reason), not sovereignty. As the only consequence is HK gov't become a lame duck.

 

[JSCh]

We know China won't backdown for anything of HK but American gov't may think differently, Trump adminsration once thought China will sign anything under the pressure of tariffs. US only want chaos (with fasle flag) in HK and excuse to embargo China with EU (EU may join due to democratic reason), not soverreighty. As the only consequence is HK gov't become a lame duck.

If the US really think they can use HK stability as a bargaining chip, then the American is just wasting a lot of US taxpayer money.

The extradition law is not something that China really absolutely need to have straight way. It is actually more important to HK. Because it is a loop hole that could be used by criminal that could harm HK safety.

 

[bbccdd1470]

If the US really think they can use HK stability as a bargaining chip, then the American is just wasting a lot of US taxpayer money.

The extradition law is not something that China really absolutely need to have straight way. It is actually more important to HK. Because it is a loop hole that could be used by criminal that could harm HK safety.

They did waste a lots of money, we have reasons to believe that US is indeed involved with this. American really do not understand Beijing but this is one of last chips they can be used. Also the extradition law is started by our CE, not from Beijing. Our CE did make a mistake to propose a extradtion law at this time, and she started with a good heart but the cost is huge for us the Hong Kong people.

 

[Feng Leng]

If the US really think they can use HK stability as a bargaining chip, then the American is just wasting a lot of US taxpayer money.

The extradition law is not something that China really absolutely need to have straight way. It is actually more important to HK. Because it is a loop hole that could be used by criminal that could harm HK safety.

They did waste a lots of money, we have reasons to believe that US is indeed involved with this. American really do not understand Beijing but this is one of last chips they can be used. Also the extradition law is started by our CE, not from Beijing. Our CE did make a mistake to propose a extradtion law at this time, and she started with a good heart but the cost is huge for us the Hong Kong people.

It's conceivable Beijing wants to keep Hong Kong calm for the remainder of 2019 because of the Taiwan election.

 

[Mista]

What about the murder suspect for that HK girl killed in Taiwan? He go free?

Come on, there are so many countries with no extradition treaty with each other. You think it's so easy to go scot-free? You can always make a special request to that country where the fugitive is hiding, but of course that country may reject.

Example in Singapore.
https://singaporelegaladvice.com/law-articles/extradition-act-commit-crime-flee-singapore/

It's conceivable Beijing wants to keep Hong Kong calm for the remainder of 2019 because of the Taiwan election.

Maybe. Tsai's popularity suddenly shot up and won her party's primaries.

It reminds me of the Taiwanese singer flag incident in the elections back in 2016.

 

[bbccdd1470]

You can always make a special request to that country where the fugitive is hiding

I didn't really look into that matter, but from what I heard some said it may get the HK gov't into judicial review by Court, since there is no legal base in our laws. Also special request looks riskier than the extraditon treaty, where our CE could always make special request without going through the Court, then the suspect will sure JR our gov't like what I said earlier which costs alots of money. The extradion treaty is a better option where it is not only provide the legal base and set the conditions for extradition without any abusion, also the treaty is aimed for other countries that we have no extradtion treaty with before. What important is it can fix our loophole once for all that HK gov't does not need to make special request everytime we face the problem like this.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I didn't really look into that matter, but from what I heard some said it may get the HK gov't into judicial review by Court, since there is no legal base in our laws. Also special request looks riskier than the extraditon treaty, where our CE could always make special request without going through the Court, then the suspect will sure JR our gov't like what I said earlier which costs alots of money. The extradion treaty is a better option where it is not only provide the legal base and set the conditions for extradition without any abusion, also the treaty is aimed for other countries that we have no extradtion treaty with before. What important is it can fix our loophole once for all that HK gov't does not need to make special request everytime we face the problem like this.

Absolute disorder will only bring order at the end. Those traitors and anarchistic trolls don't have any significance in this important historic process.

Most HKers also do understand that "发展才是硬道理", so make sure that the silent majority to raise their voice, and their CPC a reason that good deed indeed to be implemented in HK.

 

[zectech]

Amerika this morning, vomited something up out of their hell, 'stating: democracy, liberty and freedom equals no extradition'. The Amerikkans are with the protesters, not even the Hong Kong government which supported limited extradition.

So does this Amerikkan regime oppose extraditing the huawei official from Canada?

If not, this is another evil Amerikan empire with two standards, Washington 'can kidnap, bomb, terrorize the world', while if China seeks extradition from its own territory in HK, China is breaking the Amerikan (made-up) rules of (fake) world governance.

The trump regime again bypasses normal diplomacy and UN action, to unilaterally dictate to the world how everyone should act, again.

 

[Viva_Viet]

CN support and help the killers in Camb, so now, US let CN taste its own medicine by support and protect HK killers. Adn Xi lost against Trump again:

Wat a pathetic loser CN