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So you are here to bully
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Where is the source of your data?India's ATGM stocks are larger than Pakistan, mainly comprising of Konkurs, Milan ( both made in india) as well as smaller quantities Of Spike( frontline units) and Kornet. India also has 25,000 Invar Anti tank cannon launched missiles for T90 tanks, this missile has been made in india since 2013 . I don't think Pakistan has similar missile for it's tanks , even if it does the quantity may not be large enough.
Spike using fiber optic wire during initial phase. HJ12 in Pakistani inventory has never been confirmed but can not be ruled out
Whatever I said is available on the open web. You can verify it if you want toWhere is the source of your data?
I've known that for quite some time.Pakistan has been making baktar shikan or hj-7 since the late 90s.
There is no data to prove that, not that I can find. Kindly share a link or something. Even the Chinese won't hold ATGM stocks in such bloated numbers. did you factor in the shelf life of the missiles you're referring to ? If you had 65K stocks in 2011 then half of those would have been retired by now. India has always maintained anywhere between 75-85K stocks of these missiles. Pakistan has an advantage in ATGM:troop ratio though. But India has quantity and better quality.It’s expected that Pakistan has some 150000 stocks of generation 1 /2 weapons. In 2011 Pakistan had stocks over 65k you can search on the forum for this data
Indian army inducted Gen 2 Milan wayyy... back in the early 1980s.It has been developing generation 2 since late 2000
Generation 3 missiles have been around for quite some time , javelin came out in the late 90s . You're 20 years late . IA operates Israeli spike classified as a 4th Gen ATGMNow the focus is on generation 3 the Chinese version of the javlin
Pak has anywhere between 1500-2000 operational air launched TOW-2s in it's inventory, most of these are already past their service life and will probably be retired . Information regarding the same is available on vats Rohit's blog.Along with that, I personally know that Pakistan had significant stocks of air launched tow 2
PA corps hold one HAT battalion in corps reserve. PA divisions are given a single LAT battalion. IA RAPID and armoured divisions also have R&S units which are equipped with a variety of APCs and IFVs capable of firing these missiles. Infact all BMP2's in IA service can launch konkurs missile with 6-7 held for reload. M113 requires modifications for the same. You need to study more about your enemy's forces.And ground launched tow 2 on m113 in significant numbers so much so that I believe an independent heavy anti tank brigade exists in the strike corps in Sind
2,000 invars were bought in the late 90s with T80s from Ukraine. I haven't come across any data on the web that PA placed a repeat order for the same. India bought the same missile from russia in 2010. 10,000 were imported directly from Russia and 15,000 were produced in India under ToT agreement with the OEM.Pakistan also has significant numbers of tank launched ATGM for alkhalid , alkhalid 1 , T-80 and type 89a and the latest Chinese tank VT-4 that paksitan uses
What ? Seriously? I mean wtf !!!! Even the americans didn't have this capability in the 70sATGM based phalanx weapons have been a Pakistani strategy to counter Indian / Russian tanks since the late 70s ………
I've wasted enough time on youSo please provide sources
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All HATs are equipped with TOWMost likely PA has a single HAT battalion comprising of m113 mounted TOW
Share your INNER SOURCE or else we don't believe only your words brotherSo you are here to bully
Please can you name India has spike but it is wire guided I think
Than please do not believeShare your INNER SOURCE or else we don't believe only your words brother
We are not believing untill some came with strong backup/sourcesThan please do not believe
There is No proof that all those HAT battalions are based on M113s , that's my point sirAll HATs are equipped with TOW
All HATs, and LATs as well, are all based on M113 or their variants.There is No proof that all those HAT battalions are based on M113s
I'm not talking about the HJ 8 missiles mounted on talhas and M113s , In the early 80s, Pakistan Army also imported 24 M-901 Improved Tow Vehicles from the USA. These are dedicated TOW missile platforms based on M-113 APCs. Did pak army perhaps mount TOWs on domestically produced M113s ?All HATs, and LATs as well, are all based on M113 or their variants.
Its a decades old thing now... That HAT company and M 901 ITVs..... Now there are whole complete units mingling about.I'm not talking about the HJ 8 missiles mounted on talhas and M113s , In the early 80s, Pakistan Army also imported 24 M-901 Improved Tow Vehicles from the USA. These are dedicated TOW missile platforms based on M-113 APCs. Did pak army perhaps mount TOWs on domestically produced M113s ?
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It turns that you're indeed right sir .
Just came across this picture of an HAT company under X corps's 23rd division
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Pak army has mounted TOWs on domestically produced M113s