Hindi signboards in Metro stations in Bengaluru upset Twitterati

[The_Showstopper]

I am a strong supporter of Mahatma Gandhi and respect what he did for India.

Says the Godse Bhakt. When you are anonymous, you don't have to hide your inner feelings. Look at your fellow Sanghis, they are unapologetic about their connections and ideology.

It is a fact the Muslims did everything in their power to back stab Independence movement of India

Indians start the First Rebellion of India against British rule in 1857

It was the muslims who led and played the major part in the Independence war of 1857(I understand that this is not taught in your Shakhas), but let me enlighten you

Bakht Khan was commander-in-chief of Indian rebel forces. In Delhi alone, the number of Muslims executed during 1857-58 was 27,000( In the annals of archives Qaiser-ul-Tawarikh mentioned that the number of Muslims executed only in Delhi during 1857-58 was 27,000, not to speak of those killed in the general massacre).

Infact the first ever Indian rebellion against the British was the Vellore Mutiny of 10 July 1806 which was led by descendants of Tipu Sultan.

This rebellion predates the Sepoy Mutiny of 1857, as a result of which mostly upper-class Muslim rebels were targeted by the British, as it was under their leadership that the war was fought, mostly in and around Delhi; thousands of their relatives were shot or hanged near the gate of The Red Fort in Delhi, which is now known as "Khooni Darwaza" ("the Bloody Gate").

Other famous Muslims who fought for independence against British rule were Abul Kalam Azad, Mehmud Hasan of Darul Uloom Deoband, who was implicated in the famous Silk Letter Conspiracy to overthrow the British through an armed struggle, Husain Ahmed Madani, former Shaikhul Hadith of Darul Uloom Deoband, Ubaidullah Sindhi, Hakeem Ajmal Khan, Hasrat Mohani, Syed Mahmud, Professor Maulavi Barkatullah, Zakir Husain, Saifuddin Kichlu, Vakkom Abdul Khadir, Manzoor Abdul Wahab, Bahadur Shah Zafar, Hakeem Nusrat Husain, Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan, Abdul Samad Khan Achakzai, Colonel Shahnawaz, M.A. Ansari, Rafi Ahmad Kidwai, Fakhruddin Ali Ahmad, Ansar Harwani, Tak Sherwani, Nawab Viqarul Mulk, Nawab Mohsinul Mulk, Mustsafa Husain, V.M. Ubaidullah, S.R. Rahim, Badaruddin Taiyabji, Abid Hasan and Moulvi Abdul Hamid.

Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_India#Role_in_the_Indian_independence_movement
http://knowledgeofindia.com/a-complete-list-of-muslim-freedom-fighters-of-india/
https://www.worldpulse.com/en/community/users/wasimkalas0/posts/73140
https://www.britannica.com/event/Indian-Mutiny

So when you are unaware of certain things, don't make buffoonery of yourself.

Sir Syed a British Lackey divided the nation in 1867 with his Urdu language movement and later created a separate Muslim party All-India Muslim League in 1906 to weaken the freedom movement of India

If he was a British lackey, then Raja Rammohan roy, Sir Rabindranath tagore etc were also British lackeys. He was a educationist and did his job quite well. Indian muslims needed someone like him to lead and create awareness.

When Indian National Congress demanded for 'the system of government obtaining in Self-Governing British Colonies' All-India Muslim League backstabbed the movement again by supporting British who gave All-India Muslim League separate electorate for Muslims as part of Morley-Minto Reforms in 1909.

When Indian National Congress started fighting for Purna Swaraj (Complete Independence of India from British rule) in 1929, another British lackey Sir Muhammad Iqbal (note the "Sir" title again) back stabbed the Complete Independence movement call given by Indian National Congress by Declaring the movement for creation of Pakistan in 1930 for the Muslims of Subcontinent.

Many members of All India muslim league were themselves former members of Indian National Congress. They fought for Indian independence when Sanghis were sleeping with Brits. So keep your accusations to yourself and buzz off.

When Mahatma Gandhi called for Quit India Movement in 1942 , Muhammad Ali Jinnah called for Direct Action Day in 1946 again to subvert the Freedom movement.

And you have gal to call Mahatma Gandhi names.

I am not here to defend Jinnah, ask a Pakistani.

LOL A Sanghi speaking about Gandhi

 

[manlion]

today Kannadigas'protest @ Bengaluru Town Hall against Hindi Imperialism

BJP's joker

https://twitter.com/x/status/878550017815920640

 

[StraightShooter]

Other famous Muslims who fought for independence against British rule were Abul Kalam Azad, Mehmud Hasan of Darul Uloom Deoband, who was implicated in the famous Silk Letter Conspiracy to overthrow the British through an armed struggle, Husain Ahmed Madani, former Shaikhul Hadith of Darul Uloom Deoband, Ubaidullah Sindhi, Hakeem Ajmal Khan, Hasrat Mohani, Syed Mahmud, Professor Maulavi Barkatullah, Zakir Husain, Saifuddin Kichlu, Vakkom Abdul Khadir, Manzoor Abdul Wahab, Bahadur Shah Zafar, Hakeem Nusrat Husain, Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan, Abdul Samad Khan Achakzai, Colonel Shahnawaz, M.A. Ansari, Rafi Ahmad Kidwai, Fakhruddin Ali Ahmad, Ansar Harwani, Tak Sherwani, Nawab Viqarul Mulk, Nawab Mohsinul Mulk, Mustsafa Husain, V.M. Ubaidullah, S.R. Rahim, Badaruddin Taiyabji, Abid Hasan and Moulvi Abdul Hamid.

Man you are funny. People like Azad and Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan's of the world fought along side Gandhi and they were part of Congress. I was talking about the forefathers of Pakistani Muslims like Sir Syed, Sir Iqbal and Jinnahs of the world who never fought for Independence rather back stabbed again and again the freedom movement started by Congress. Azad was even President of Congress and vehemently opposed the idea of Pakistan. Frontier Gandhi did not even wanted his pushtun men to join Pakistan rather India.

If he was a British lackey, then Raja Rammohan roy, Sir Rabindranath tagore etc were also British lackeys. He was a educationist and did his job quite well. Indian muslims needed someone like him to lead and create awareness.

Show me any acts of Roy or Tagore to divide the people of India based on religion? Sir Syed just did that by starting the Urdu language movement. The primary idea was to weaken the Freedom movement after the united rebellion by Hindu & Muslim Sepoy against the British. There is no doubt that he was working for the British interests.

Many members of All India muslim league were themselves former members of Indian National Congress. They fought for Indian independence when Sanghis were sleeping with Brits. So keep your accusations to yourself and buzz off.

All-India Muslim League was formed in 1906. Could you list what actions were taken by them to fight the British for India to gain Independence?

Congress called for Poorna Swaraj in 1929 and Iqbal called for Pakistan in 1930 to weaken that movement

Congress calls for Quit India in 1942 and Jinnah calls for direct action day again to weaken the movement.

They have always worked for the interests of the British and to weaken the freedom struggle.

Many members of All India muslim league were themselves former members of Indian National Congress. They fought for Indian independence when Sanghis were sleeping with Brits. So keep your accusations to yourself and buzz off.

Neither people of Muslim league nor Hindu Mahasabha fought for Independence. Muslim league was fighting Congress to weaken the freedom struggle and Hindu Mahasabha was fighting Muslim league to ensure the rights of Hindus were retained. It is important to highlight that Muslim league was formed in 1906 while Hindu Mahasabha was formed in 1909 only after British gave separate Muslim electorate under the Morley-Minto reforms of 1909

I am not here to defend Jinnah, ask a Pakistani.

LOL A Sanghi speaking about Gandhi

It is very obvious that every word of your was to defend Muslim league and Pakistani forefathers. I was discussing with a Pakistani but you could resist yourself and jumped-in to defend Syeds, Iqbals and Jinnahs of the world.

 

[The_Showstopper]

Man you are funny. People like Azad and Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan's of the world fought along side Gandhi and they were part of Congress. I was talking about the forefathers of Pakistani Muslims like Sir Syed, Sir Iqbal and Jinnahs of the world who never fought for Independence rather back stabbed again and again the freedom movement started by Congress. Azad was even President of Congress and vehemently opposed the idea of Pakistan. Frontier Gandhi did not even wanted his pushtun men to join Pakistan rather India.

Stop your buffoonery, you look foolish when you do that. First you claimed muslims backstabbed Indian independence movement, when I threw some facts at you, suddenly you bring in forefathers of Pakistani Muslims

Show me any acts of Roy or Tagore to divide the people of India based on religion? Sir Syed just did that by starting the Urdu language movement. The primary idea was to weaken the Freedom movement after the united rebellion by Hindu & Muslim Sepoy against the British. There is no doubt that he was working for the British interests.

When you have no idea of history, it is better to be quite. LOL working for Urdu language movement is dividing the people based on religion. The have been many Hindu urdu scholars/poets and still continue to be so. Ram Prakash Bismil, Krishna Mohan etc were one of the many urdu poets. I am not sure if they were working for British interests.

Anyways read the following with open mind and it shall help you get rid of some of your ignorance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aligarh_Movement

All-India Muslim League was formed in 1906. Could you list what actions were taken by them to fight the British for India to gain Independence?

Congress called for Poorna Swaraj in 1929 and Iqbal called for Pakistan in 1930 to weaken that movement

Congress calls for Quit India in 1942 and Jinnah calls for direct action day again to weaken the movement.

They have always worked for the interests of the British and to weaken the freedom struggle.

As I said that many of the members of All India muslim League were also former members of Indian National Congress. Jinnah himself was a former Congress member.

Neither people of Muslim league nor Hindu Mahasabha fought for Independence. Muslim league was fighting Congress to weaken the freedom struggle and Hindu Mahasabha was fighting Muslim league to ensure the rights of Hindus were retained. It is important to highlight that Muslim league was formed in 1906 while Hindu Mahasabha was formed in 1909 only after British gave separate Muslim electorate under the Morley-Minto reforms of 1909

Long before muslim league proposed a separate, many Hindutva leaders made the following statements which spoke of separate nations for Hindus and muslims.

Without mincing words, Savarkar said, “There are two nations in the main: The Hindus and the Moslems in India.” A year later, he said: “the Hindus are the nation in India – in Hindusthan, and the Moslem minority a community.”

Source: https://thewire.in/59619/a-short-history-of-the-rss-and-bjps-double-standard-on-sedition/

If V.D. Savarkar propounded the two-nation theory in 1923, Lala Lajpat Rai proposed partition in The Tribune of December 14, 1924: "A clear partition of India into a Muslim India and a non-Muslim India."

Source: http://www.frontline.in/static/html/fl2218/stories/20050909001107800.htm

It is very obvious that every word of your was to defend Muslim league and Pakistani forefathers. I was discussing with a Pakistani but you could resist yourself and jumped-in to defend Syeds, Iqbals and Jinnahs of the world.

Oh really, you were discussing with a Pakistani while quoting me

 

[StraightShooter]

Stop your buffoonery, you look foolish when you do that. First you claimed muslims backstabbed Indian independence movement, when I threw some facts at you, suddenly you bring in forefathers of Pakistani Muslims

BS I have not changed anything. I have been talking about Syed, Iqbal and Jinnah all along. It is you who brought in Azad and frontier Gandhi.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/hind...ngaluru-upset-twitterati.502869/#post-9595533

When you have no idea of history, it is better to be quite. LOL working for Urdu language movement is dividing the people based on religion. The have been many Hindu urdu scholars/poets and still continue to be so. Ram Prakash Bismil, Krishna Mohan etc were one of the many urdu poets. I am not sure if they were working for British interests.

Anyways read the following with open mind and it shall help you get rid of some of your ignorance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aligarh_Movement

Just because you have few Hindus learning Urdu does not make it the norm. Even Dara Shikoh studied and translated Hindu scriptures to Persian. Does Muslim follow his lead? certainly not. Rather most of the Muslims admire his brother Aurangzeb who killed him for being too pro-Hindu.

As I said that many of the members of All India muslim League were also former members of Indian National Congress. Jinnah himself was a former Congress member.

So what? He back stabbed Congress and joined ML and never fought for Independence after that.

Long before muslim league proposed a separate, many Hindutva leaders made the following statements which spoke of separate nations for Hindus and muslims.

Without mincing words, Savarkar said, “There are two nations in the main: The Hindus and the Moslems in India.” A year later, he said: “the Hindus are the nation in India – in Hindusthan, and the Moslem minority a community.”

Source: https://thewire.in/59619/a-short-history-of-the-rss-and-bjps-double-standard-on-sedition/

If V.D. Savarkar propounded the two-nation theory in 1923, Lala Lajpat Rai proposed partition in The Tribune of December 14, 1924: "A clear partition of India into a Muslim India and a non-Muslim India."

Source: http://www.frontline.in/static/html/fl2218/stories/20050909001107800.htm

You are quoting something from 1923-24 when Syed had started the Urdu movement in 1867, Muslim league was started in 1906, Started getting separate Muslim electorate since 1909 and you expect Hindus to just keep rolling. Nice Islamic logic.

This is the same logic you guys use even today.

1) Muslims destroying Hindus temple to build Babri Mosque - Great step by religion of peace

Hindus destroying the Babri Mosque - Horrible act by Hindu fanatics and as a revenge to bringing down the structure you go out bombing hundreds of people to death in Bombay.

2) When People were burnt alive in Godhra - It could have been an accident . Proofs and convictions be damned

When people die is the following riots. Then it is Muslim killing pogram. Who cares about the fact that the number of Hindus killed were also in 100s

Oh really, you were discussing with a Pakistani while quoting me

I did not quote you. It is you who quoted me. Go back and check. But anyways it is immaterial.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/hind...u-upset-twitterati.502869/page-2#post-9595855

 

[The_Showstopper]

BS I have not changed anything. I have been talking about Syed, Iqbal and Jinnah all along. It is you who brought in Azad and frontier Gandhi.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/hind...ngaluru-upset-twitterati.502869/#post-9595533

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/hind...ngaluru-upset-twitterati.502869/#post-9595533

You claimed the following, i.e. MUSLIMS DID EVERYTHING TO BACK STAB INDIAN INDEPENDENCE MOVEMENT.

You never specified that you were speaking about Pakistanis but used the word "muslims".

When I confronted you with facts, you suddenly state that you were speaking forefathers of Pakistanis. Stop lying when you are caught with pants down.

Just because you have few Hindus learning Urdu does not make it the norm. Even Dara Shikoh studied and translated Hindu scriptures to Persian. Does Muslim follow his lead? certainly not. Rather most of the Muslims admire his brother Aurangzeb who killed him for being too pro-Hindu.

There is a difference between language and scriptues but I don't expect dot heads to understand that. Sir Syed started the process of providing modern education to Indian muslims who were left in lurch post 1857 Indian independence war devastation heaped upon Indian upper class muslims. The Universities he started are still in India not in Pakistan

You are quoting something from 1923-24 when Syed had started the Urdu movement in 1867, Muslim league was started in 1906, Started getting separate Muslim electorate since 1909 and you expect Hindus to just keep rolling. Nice Islamic logic.

Urdu movement doesn't equate to statehood movement. There are millions of Indian muslims who speak Urdu. So get out of your ignorance. Not sure how you got a US citizenship. Don't they have any standards for granting citizenship to immigrants? The call for separate nation for muslims was given much later after Hindutva loons started with their divisive statements. Below is a reference for you

Jinnah, who had announced Muslims' claim for a separate nationhood on March 22, 1940 at the Lahore session of the Muslim League

Source: The Hindu : 'Jinnah favoured India's division into autonomous States'

This is the same logic you guys use even today.

1) Muslims destroying Hindus temple to build Babri Mosque - Great step by religion of peace

Even the High court never ruled that a temple was destroyed by muslims but then again, intelligence and authentic information is hardly expected from a Sanghi fool.

Hindus destroying the Babri Mosque - Horrible act by Hindu fanatics and as a revenge to bringing down the structure you go out bombing hundreds of people to death in Bombay.

Bombing took place after Hindutva mobs went on a rampage destroying and killing more than 900 muslims and none were punished. So buzz off.

2) When People were burnt alive in Godhra - It could have been an accident . Proofs and convictions be damned

It could be. Why jump to conclusions without investigation? Because it will suit your agenda?

When people die is the following riots. Then it is Muslim killing pogram. Who cares about the fact that the number of Hindus killed were also in 100s

Indeed it was muslim killing POGROM, your attempt at justification doesn't hold water.

I did not quote you. It is you who quoted me. Go back and check. But anyways it is immaterial.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/hind...u-upset-twitterati.502869/page-2#post-9595855

You didn't quote me? Maybe its time for you to own your sh!t and stop making a fool of yourself.

 

[manlion]

• Pro-Kannada activists get their way, Namma Metro to remove all Hindi signboards

The Kannada Development Authority took it one step forward and said that even announcements cannot be made in Hindi.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...etro-karnataka-rakshana-vedike/1/1011073.html

 

[manlion]

Indian - Hindi hypocrisy 3 language policy is only for non Dravida Nadu sates not for Gujarat