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Has India forgotten Irom Sharmila?

India is soon heading towards becoming a fascist state. Just look at the outrageous actions taken by the UPA government against Anna Hazare and Ramdev and of course people like Irom Sharmila. Do these so called elected representatives care for the ordinary citizen?? They have become the kings who cannot be questioned!
 
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123 districts are still affected by naxals.. which constitutes one fifth of india... then we have the problem in northeast and kashmir..and such apathy and arrogance... where we are heading ?? god knows !!!
 
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That's why guys,Plz root out Congress from centre plzz....

They give more importance to those separatists in Kashmir and forget our Assamese people.....
Congress Morons....

GET CONGRESS (WORST GOVT IN INDIAN HISTORY)OUT OF CENTRE SOON.....
 
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Revisiting AFSPA

http://www.southasiamonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=890&catid=54&Itemid=102
By :- Gen (retd) V P Malik

Kashmir is burning. Political leaders from the state, civil and human rightists, even the media will have you believe that the Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act 1958 (AFSPA) is responsible for this situation and should be revoked or diluted to help resolve the crisis. The Centre, after looking at the situation in a holistic manner and listening to the armed forces’ advice, finds it difficult to decide.

What is the AFSPA? Why is this Act necessary? But first, let me narrate a real situation that took place 20 years ago. In early 1990 I was commanding a division that had troops deployed for counter-insurgency operations in Manipur, Nagaland and a part of Arunachal Pradesh.

During the run-up to the Manipur Assembly elections, a political party leader, in order to garner students’ support and votes, made the removal of the AFSPA a major electoral issue. When he won the elections and became the Chief Minister, I went to call on him. I asked him what he planned to do about the AFSPA.

He said that in view of the “popular demand”, he would write to the Home Ministry and have it removed from the state. I told the Chief Minister that it was OK with me. I will pull out troops from the 60-odd posts, concentrate them outside Manipur and train them for their primary role of fighting a conventional war.

“But you cannot do that! What will happen to the law and order situation?” he said. I appreciated his concern and told him politely but firmly that I couldn’t help him to maintain that without a proper legal cover. I said: “I cannot have my subordinates hold me responsible for giving them any unlawful command.” Then, very respectfully I stated, “Sir, the best way out is to create conditions in the state wherein the AFSPA is not necessary.

If you and the Centre do not consider and declare Manipur state to be a ‘disturbed area’, the AFSPA cannot be applied. Please do not blame the AFSPA for the problems of Manipur. The fact is that despite several elections in the state, we have not been able to create conditions when this Act need not be applied in Manipur. The armed forces cannot create those conditions. These are primarily of political, ethnic and socio-economic nature, under your charge now.”


The AFSPA was enacted by Parliament in 1958 for the “disturbed areas” of the North-East. Later, it was extended to “disturbed areas” declared anywhere in India. It has four essential paragraphs. Para 3 states that if the Governor of a state/Union Territory or the Central Government is of the opinion that the whole or any part of the state/Union Territory is in such a disturbed or dangerous condition that the use of the armed forces in aid of the civil power is necessary, the government by an official gazette notification may declare the whole or affected part to be a “disturbed area”.

Para 4 states that a commissioned officer, warrant officer, non-commissioned officer or any other person of equivalent rank in the armed forces in a disturbed area may:

-Fire upon/use force, even causing death, against any person contravening law and order or carrying weapons, ammunition or explosives, if in his opinion it is necessary for maintenance of law and order and after giving due warning.

-Destroy an armed dump or fortified position or a shelter from which armed attacks can be made or can be used for training by hostiles, if necessary to do so.

-Arrest without warrant any person who has committed a cognizable offence and may use suitable force, if necessary to do so.

-Enter any premises without a warrant to arrest a terrorist/suspect, or to recover a wrongfully confined person, stolen property, or arms/explosives wrongfully kept.

Para 5 of the Act lays down that the arrested persons will be handed over to the nearest police station “with the least possible delay”. Para 6 states that “no prosecution, suit or other legal proceeding shall be instituted except with the previous sanction of the Central Government, against any person in respect of anything done under this Act”.

The need for the AFSPA for counter-insurgency and counter-terrorist operations is unquestionable. The 1958 Act may have been described as a ‘special power’. But those of us who have commanded troops in such situations have always looked upon it as a legal protection to conduct effective operations.


Terrorists’ activities in J&K have been curtailed substantially but their attempts to infiltrate from and cause mayhem in the Valley and elsewhere continue. It is the public order which has become fragile in the last four months due to street protests, stone throwing by mobs and casualties due to firing by the police. In that, there has been no involvement of the Army except on one occasion when troops going in a convoy had to return fire in self-defence. The Army is not deployed operationally in Srinagar. It operates there only when called upon to assist the police in a counter-terrorist action.

The J&K crisis is primarily political in nature caused due to political confrontation, separatists’ increased influence and lack of engagement with sections of the populace and of governance. The problem is not the AFSPA but the excessive and prolonged deployment of security forces, particularly in the urban areas. Their number and visibility goes up further during the Amarnath Yatra period.

The policemen and Army personnel wear similar combat uniforms and badges of rank (despite repeated protests by Army HQ) and are clubbed as security forces. Since the real thorn in the flesh of the terrorists and separatists is the Army, they deflect public anger to it and the AFSPA.


(The writer is a former Chief of Army Staff. Article courtesy: The Tribune)

Too many damned tree huggers in India, and they ll be the one who seal their lips when terrorists and militants go around butchering innocent people. If the government hasn't given into your demands for 10 years, there is a good chance that your demands are unreasonable and against national interest.
 
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123 districts are still affected by naxals.. which constitutes one fifth of india... then we have the problem in northeast and kashmir..and such apathy and arrogance... where we are heading ?? god knows !!!

I am sorry but 123 districts have only presence of Naxals. You make it sound as if they are running those districts. What does Naxals want? A communist country, you may be okay with it but I and most other Indians don't. We need to crush the Naxals movement while at the same time bringing development in the region. Just look at Andhra Pradesh for an example. Naxals are opposed to development. They blow up roads, they kill civil administrators working to bring the development. I am sorry you have no idea of how it is to be in a region which is Naxal infected. Ask someone like me.
 
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Nobody is telling to repeal AFSPA ?? the question is of apathy towards a lady who is fighting against Government to atleast listen to her ?? why can't Government hold discussion with her when she is engaging in dialogue with other people including separatists (who openly demands for separation). she is engaging in a non violent movement like Gandhiji.. as she doesn't threatened the central government existence , nobody cares about her..
 
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Looking at The current Security Scenerio In NE , AFSPA should not be removed ,
But some Govt officials should meet The lady , held talk with her and convince her to end The fast
 
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UPA govt is good at filling GDP of the country but bad at others..They should not be elected again.
 
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I am sorry but 123 districts have presence of Naxals. You make it sound as if they are running those districts. What does Naxals want? A communist country, you may be okay with it but I and most other Indians don't. We need to crush the Naxals movement while at the same time bringing development in the region. Just look at Andhra Pradesh for an example. Naxals are opposed to development. They blow up roads, they kill civil administrators working to bring the development. I am sorry you have no idea of how it is to be in a region which is Naxal infected. Ask someone like me.

buddy u get me completely wrong... 123 districts are naxals affected out of which 40 are severely affected... I am from MP.. I know about naxals very well.. My uncle used to work in chandipur in maharashtra .. u must know about it...

I am not saying we should not fight against naxals.. my point was why after so many years why we are not able to resolves this issues and still we don't see any solution in distant future..

there is some fundamental and structural problem is with our system...

woh aise bhi marr rahe hai isliye socha ki lad ker mare.. they have nothing to lose...
 
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Nobody is telling to repeal AFSPA ?? the question is of apathy towards a lady who is fighting against Government to atleast listen to her ?? why can't Government hold discussion with her when she is engaging in dialogue with other people including separatists (who openly demands for separation). she is engaging in a non violent movement like Gandhiji.. as she doesn't threatened the central government existence , nobody cares about her..

Nation is not just one woman. I am sorry for her state. I am appalled at GOI's apathy but her demand in unreasonable. Instead she should ask her fellow people to elect right candidates to power who can once and for all bring insurrection to an end. Accusing AFSPA for their problems is just idiotic.
 
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Nation is not just one woman. I am sorry for her state. I am appalled at GOI's apathy but her demand in unreasonable. Instead she should ask her fellow people to elect right candidates to power who can once and for all bring insurrection to an end. Accusing AFSPA for their problems is just idiotic.

I am not arguing in favor of her demands.. they may be right they may be wrong.. people can have different point of view depends upon the circumstances and experiences they have..

but as we boast about the world largest democracy and all shuu shaa... we don't have time or sincerity to talk with her..??

this is more of a arrogance rather than anything else on part of GOI
 
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buddy u get me completely wrong... 123 districts are naxals affected out of which 40 are severely affected... I am from MP.. I know about naxals very well.. My uncle used to work in chandipur in maharashtra .. u must know about it...

I am not saying we should not fight against naxals.. my point was why after so many years why we are not able to resolves this issues and still we don't see any solution in distant future..

there is some fundamental and structural problem is with our system...

woh aise bhi marr rahe hai isliye socha ki lad ker mare.. they have nothing to lose...

I am from Andhra Pradesh. The place where it all started. I know more than you. Their ideology is inspired by Mao which is ironic as you should already know why. They instigate villagers by accusing civil administrators of stealing their land and resources. They take advantage of their illiteracy to their gain. Also I don't think our present system lack merit but we need elect right individuals to power to implement the policies. If you keep electing corrupt individuals at the same time expecting justice from them is just moronic. If you want to blame someone, blame yourself.

You can change a person's habits but you cannot change a person's ideology in my opinion.
 
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I am not arguing in favor of her demands.. they may be right they may be wrong.. people can have different point of view depends upon the circumstances and experiences they have..

but as we boast about the world largest democracy and all shuu shaa... we don't have time or sincerity to talk with her..??

this is more of a arrogance rather than anything else on part of GOI

Again its not structural problem but electoral. India is not called world's largest democracy because of our leaders but because of our system. I am only against you accusing the system rather than our leaders.
 
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I am from Andhra Pradesh. The place where it all started. I know more than you. Their ideology is inspired by Mao which is ironic as you should already know why. They instigate villagers by accusing civil administrators of stealing their land and resources. They take advantage their illiteracy to their gain. Also I don't think our present system lack merit but we need elect right individuals to power to implement the policies. If you keep electing corrupt individuals at the same time asking for justice from them is moronic. If you want to blame someone, blame yourself.

You can change a person's habits but you cannot change a person's ideology in my opinion.

yes.. I agreed with you to some extent.. don't u think politicians and the people who are sitting in Government don't do the same thing to exploits the poor man ?? to change the thing Onus is on th people who have the power to change the things on ground level which is GOI ?? I am no supporter of Naxals .. they should be killed. But why they able to corrupt the minds of people that is the question .

Onus is on Government to win the confidence of people and do the reforms for the betterment of society.
 
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More than the Government apathy, it is the media apathy that is truly disturbing. You have a media circus over Anna Hazare or Baba Ramdev. Meanwhile farmer suicides in Vidharbha go unnoticed. Who will fast for them? If you look at the transcripts in the 2G spectrum case, you will understand that the malaise runs very deep in our society. Even the media, which should have been the voice of the oppressed, has its own agenda to follow. The system is broken down, no doubt about it.
 
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