Hamid Mir Blasts Ayaz Mir on Iqbal

[syedali73]

Why you highlighted that part Iqbal love of Islam was known but he has strong disagreement with few Mullahs and Sufis himself their is no contradiction

Sufi ki tareeqat main faqat masti-e-ahwaal
Mullah ki shariat main faqat masti-e-guftaar

Wo mard-e-mujahid nazar aata nahin mujh ko
Ho jis kay rag-o-pey main faqat masti-e-kirdaar

 

[Zarvan]

 

[syedali73]

@Azlan Haider: Yaar kuch samjhao is ko.

 

[Zarvan]

Sufi ki tareeqat main faqat masti-e-ahwaal
Mullah ki shariat main faqat masti-e-guftaar

Wo mard-e-mujahid nazar aata nahin mujh ko
Ho jis kay rag-o-pey main faqat masti-e-kirdaar

What he needs to teach me Mr

 

[M. Sarmad]

@Azlan Haider: Yaar kuch samjhao is ko.

Sir You are wasting your time on a brainwashed kid ....

 

[syedali73]

Sir You are wasting your time on a brainwashed kid ....

Something interesting you have posted recently, which I might have missed out?

 

[Zarvan]

Sir You are wasting your time on a brainwashed kid ....

Yes thanks to ALLAH I am brainwashed by Quran and Sunnat not a Kharji like you enemy of RASOOL SAW

 

[M. Sarmad]

Something interesting you have posted recently, which I might have missed out?

Mullahs selling out their "Imaan" for ten to fifteen rupees a month (The Diaries of Sir George Cunningham)

State of Confusion II

 

[Zarvan]

 

[MM_Haider]

First he hired the teacher because he was not satisfied with the atmosphere at school and with that women you are talking about he was writing letters and that too when he was in Europe that was early process of his personality getting developed and at least he got her daughter educated although he died when she was only 9 Allama Iqbal didn't killed innocent Bhagat Singh did Mr and You are mixing the whole contest Iqbal gave that speech because Muslims were first asking for separate electorate British were not agreeing they were in full power by than no chance of them leaving so he gave the idea of sovereign provinces where Muslims are in majority so they have their own laws and develop their own system so at least before proving yourself an ignorant man please educate yourself ALLAMA was not against English Mr he in his poetry took english as a symbol he was mainly against western culture and what women are in west no body understood better than him the need of the hour but an ignorant person like you can only talk shit against great Iqbal

Who told you he was not satisfied with the atmosphere of school? Any reference? and what was that atmosphere, this needs to be elaborated otherwise this is all bosh!..

He didn't only write letters when he was in Europe. He came back in 1908 and his correspondence continued even after that. He told Attya about his wife Karim Bibi that he didn't like her anymore. Remember, he was married in 1892 and left for Europe in 1905. So he had develop affection for modern girl Attya during that time when he was married. Don't do intellectual dishonesty, Mr Mujahid, Muslims don't lie.

When did I say the Iqbal killed Bhagat? Are you crazy?

Muslims wanted separate electorate under BRITISH RULE? why were they happy under british who were foreigners and had snatched the government from Mughals? In this context Bhagat Singh was right that he wanted to get rid of British. Our so called Heroes didn't realize this and when they thought that after British shall leave Hindus rule on them they started to ask for separate land. This was the fear of democracy prevailing in the minds of Indian Muslims.

How do you freakin draw the inference that he used English just as a symbol? A married person who himself went to west for higher studies, enjoys a friendship of a western cultured, comes back, didnt like his own wife, writes letter to his western and English cultured woman that he doesn't like his wife anymore... guess what... he understood western women really better...

 

[Zarvan]

Who told you he was not satisfied with the atmosphere of school? Any reference? and what was that atmosphere, this needs to be elaborated otherwise this is all bosh!..

He didn't only write letters when he was in Europe. He came back in 1908 and his correspondence continued even after that. He told Attya about his wife Karim Bibi that he didn't like her anymore. Remember, he was married in 1892 and left for Europe in 1905. So he had develop affection for modern girl Attya during that time when he was married. Don't do intellectual dishonesty, Mr Mujahid, Muslims don't lie.

When did I say the Iqbal killed Bhagat? Are you crazy?

Muslims wanted separate electorate under BRITISH RULE? why were they happy under british who were foreigners and had snatched the government from Mughals? In this context Bhagat Singh was right that he wanted to get rid of British. Our so called Heroes didn't realize this and when they thought that after British shall leave Hindus rule on them they started to ask for separate land. This was the fear of democracy prevailing in the minds of Indian Muslims.

How do you freakin draw the inference that he used English just as a symbol? A married person who himself went to west for higher studies, enjoys a friendship of a western cultured, comes back, didnt like his own wife, writes letter to his western and English cultured woman that he doesn't like his wife anymore... guess what... he understood western women really better...

I said Bhagat singh killed many innocents Iqbal didn't killed anybody Mr they were not happy against British but they have face lot of losses Mr and that time British were in full power in fact if world war II wouldn't have taken place British would have been ruling here for next many generations Mr Iqbal was not satisfied with the atmosphere around and his poems related to women education are in those contest and we can see these days most universities have become date points He studied their and that writing letter was very few secondly at least he was writing letters that is why he asked for separate electorate Mr so Hindus can't rule so know something before talking Mr but you are mental slave of kufr nothing expecting better from view typical Indian influenced bullshit you are saying

 

[MM_Haider]

I said Bhagat singh killed many innocents Iqbal didn't killed anybody Mr they were not happy against British but they have face lot of losses Mr and that time British were in full power in fact if world war II wouldn't have taken place British would have been ruling here for next many generations Mr Iqbal was not satisfied with the atmosphere around and his poems related to women education are in those contest and we can see these days most universities have become date points He studied their and that writing letter was very few secondly at least he was writing letters that is why he asked for separate electorate Mr so Hindus can't rule so know something before talking Mr but you are mental slave of kufr nothing expecting better from view typical Indian influenced bullshit you are saying

Are you drunk? What Mr Mr?? can't you just write a simple sentence in a proper manner? What is your qualification? Oh because universities are date points you never went there and it is also evident that you didn't have formal western education as well.

British were in full power.. this was known to Hindus and Congress and Bhagat Singh also even then they were fighting for independence from British and our Muslim heroes were requesting, imploring and beseeching English to keep their rule on them... Does this ring a freakin bell or not? what was the last history book you read?

 

[Zarvan]

Are you drunk? What Mr Mr?? can't you just write a simple sentence in a proper manner? What is your qualification? Oh because universities are date points you never went there and it is also evident that you didn't have formal western education as well.

British were in full power.. this was known to Hindus and Congress and Bhagat Singh also even then they were fighting for independence from British and our Muslim heroes were requesting, imploring and beseeching English to keep their rule on them... Does this ring a freakin bell or not? what was the last history book you read?

Yes and in his idiotic fighting he killed innocents only one or two British guys were killed by him other were innocents wow great work for independence Muslims were not requesting but they were using brain and moving step by step Mr first was to at least try to get either separate electorate or sovereign provinces and your level of ignorance is being shown here so leave what I have studied or not

 

[MM_Haider]

Yes and in his idiotic fighting he killed innocents only one or two British guys were killed by him other were innocents wow great work for independence Muslims were not requesting but they were using brain and moving step by step Mr first was to at least try to get either separate electorate or sovereign provinces and your level of ignorance is being shown here so leave what I have studied or not

why are you afraid of answering my all questions? This shows your intellect level and qualification which you are shying away to tell.

just harping on the same string again and again.. That Muslims wanted independence step by step and they used brains.. how the brain was used... here is a glimpse... Muslims started migration movement to Afghanistan and when Afghanistan didn't accept them they had to come back in privation!!! it was use of brain when Iqbal wrote Marsyah on the death of Queen!!

 

[Zarvan]

why are you afraid of answering my all questions? This shows your intellect level and qualification which you are shying away to tell.

just harping on the same string again and again.. That Muslims wanted independence step by step and they used brains.. how the brain was used... here is a glimpse... Muslims started migration movement to Afghanistan and when Afghanistan didn't accept them they had to come back in privation!!! it was use of brain when Iqbal wrote Marsyah on the death of Queen!!

I am answering all your questions mr yes that migration idea was biggest blunder Iqbal didn't supported it Mr somethhing he wrote just beacuse of that time but his always main foucs was of how to benefit Muslim and bring them forward and wake them up and lead them to glory again Mr I don't shy from anything those on this forum knows this