Halal supermarket ordered to sell pork, alcohol or face closure

[foxbat]

General in the term of a store means that it stores general items as opposed to a specific type of item such as a meat shop that sells only meat or a barber shop where you only go for a hair cut.

But you already knew that, didn't you. So continue with the pointless rhetoric.

Dude, read again. Its "General Food store" and not "general store" . There is a difference. If it caters to only one type of food, then its hardly a general food store. And its not new and its not specific to Islam. People, all over first break rules and then try to get away with it using religion as a shield. Whether its a Muslim cab driver who stops the car on the road and gets on its roof to offer Namaaz or its the so called "Cow protectors" in India who indulge in hooliganism in the name of protecting a Hindu symbol. My beef is with news media that makes heroes/victims/villains of these people depending on the flavor of the day.

 

[RoadRunner401]

The row in Colombes came as another town - this time in the south of France - decided to take action to stop another perceived breach of republican principles.

The mayor of Pennes-Mirabeau, near Marseille, is seeking to ban an event at a water park that is open only to burkini-clad women and children.

The event organised by a local community group said the need for modest swimwear was because there would be male lifeguards on duty at the Speedwater Park venue.

Burkinis are banned at municipal pools in France, as are women-only events, but private venues are in theory allowed to host them.

But the mayor of Pennes-Mirabeau said he was outraged by this “provocation” and that he would use a bylaw to ban it on the grounds that it is likely to cause public disorder.

 

[TurkeyForever]

Will enjoy watching arabs take over france, they deserve it.

 

[KungFuCultMaster]

The French are deluded.

They have been reduced to mere sidekicks of the Anglo Americans and Zionists.

Know your place and stop riding on the coattails of your Anglo American masters.

 

[MarkusS]

Will enjoy watching arabs take over france, they deserve it.

There is a greater possibility that kurds overtake turkey amigo.

France is a wonderful nation. It contributes much for humanity. Can you say the same about your country?

 

[DesiGuy1403]

There is a greater possibility that kurds overtake turkey amigo.

France is a wonderful nation. It contributes much for humanity. Can you say the same about your country?

Well, they have contributed ISIS to humanity and are seriously proud of it.

 

[TurkeyForever]

Well, they have contributed ISIS to humanity and are seriously proud of it.

You do realize that indians are seen same as arabs in europe right?

Funny how some indians here think they are white just to hurt anything pak or muslim.

There is a greater possibility that kurds overtake turkey amigo.

France is a wonderful nation. It contributes much for humanity. Can you say the same about your country?

If it weren't for the people in Turkey you'd be eating food with your hands like an animal:
"The personal table fork was most likely invented in the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork

If it weren't for the people in Turkey you wouldn't have shops, super markets and coins/money:
"According to Herodotus, the Lydians were the first people to use gold and silver coins and the first to establish retail shops in permanent locations."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia

If it weren't for the people in Turkey you wouldn't have civilisation, we have the oldest settlement:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göbekli_Tepe

If it weren't for us you would not have Santa:

"Saint Nicholas of Myra was a 4th-century Greek Christian bishop of Myra (now Demre) in Lycia, a province of the Byzantine Empire, now in Turkey. Nicholas was famous for his generous gifts to the poor"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

We might have invented religion too:

"The oldest known human-made religious structure."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_oldest_buildings_in_the_world

Next time you go to church think it's because of Turkey that building is there

france wouldn't be here if it wasn't for USA/UK saving it in ww2. It would be a german slave nation.

I don't respect nations that can't win their independence on their own and need help like girls do.

 

[Saquib]

Have they also asked Kosher shops to sell pork and bacon?

 

[MarkusS]

You do realize that indians are seen same as arabs in europe right?

Funny how some indians here think they are white just to hurt anything pak or muslim.



If it weren't for the people in Turkey you'd be eating food with your hands like an animal:
"The personal table fork was most likely invented in the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork

If it weren't for the people in Turkey you wouldn't have shops, super markets and coins/money:
"According to Herodotus, the Lydians were the first people to use gold and silver coins and the first to establish retail shops in permanent locations."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia

If it weren't for the people in Turkey you wouldn't have civilisation, we have the oldest settlement:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göbekli_Tepe

If it weren't for us you would not have Santa:

"Saint Nicholas of Myra was a 4th-century Greek Christian bishop of Myra (now Demre) in Lycia, a province of the Byzantine Empire, now in Turkey. Nicholas was famous for his generous gifts to the poor"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

We might have invented religion too:

"The oldest known human-made religious structure."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_oldest_buildings_in_the_world

Next time you go to church think it's because of Turkey that building is there

france wouldn't be here if it wasn't for USA/UK saving it in ww2. It would be a german slave nation.

I don't respect nations that can't win their independence on their own and need help like girls do.

funny that the only stuff you can bring up is stuff invented by my people. Guess turks did not contribute anything to the world at all.

the ottoman as well as turkey today are a consumer society and not a creative one.

Have they also asked Kosher shops to sell pork and bacon?

the shop runs on a state license. This license demands that he caters all people. He can close his shop. give back the license and opens anotjer shop at another place where he dont need a license.

 

[TurkeyForever]

funny that the only stuff you can bring up is stuff invented by my people. Guess turks did not contribute anything to the world at all.

the ottoman as well as turkey today are a consumer society and not a creative one.

Your people? At least give credit where it's due.

All the things with links are from the people in Turkey. Many civilisations in history in that area, but it's the same people, it's their ancestors that did those things.

We aren't creative? Like I said go to stormfront forums better for racist people like yourself.

 

[MarkusS]

Your people? At least give credit where it's due.

All the things with links are from the people in Turkey. Many civilisations in history in that area, but it's the same people, it's their ancestors that did those things.

We aren't creative? Like I said go to stormfront forums better for racist people like yourself.

Look, we italians / romans were created by two groups mixing. The original estruscian people from italian peninsula merged with the people of troy who came here after their defeat and destruction of troy. Troy was in asia minor where today turkey is.

So we share a common heritage which was made even stronger in the roman empire. Ephesos was a leading city in the empire. Its almost certain that some time ago one of your ancestors and one of mine served in same army unit.

Now turks like Sinan tell me they orientate only on turks from asia and have nothing in common with us. Now you tell me exactly what ithink as well.

As for being creative...show me your art. your plastics, portraits. Your Leonardo da Vinci. How do you explain that small city republics in italy had more skills in art and science than ottoman empire? Art needs individualism. Something orientals lack. free thinking isnt allowed in your culture.

 

[TurkeyForever]

Look, we italians / romans were created by two groups mixing. The original estruscian people from italian peninsula merged with the people of troy who came here after their defeat and destruction of troy. Troy was in asia minor where today turkey is.

So we share a common heritage which was made even stronger in the roman empire. Ephesos was a leading city in the empire. Its almost certain that some time ago one of your ancestors and one of mine served in same army unit.

Now turks like Sinan tell me they orientate only on turks from asia and have nothing in common with us. Now you tell me exactly what ithink as well.

As for being creative...show me your art. your plastics, portraits. Your Leonardo da Vinci. How do you explain that small city republics in italy had more skills in art and science than ottoman empire? Art needs individualism. Something orientals lack. free thinking isnt allowed in your culture.

Ottoman had it's own art on pottery and buildings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_the_Ottoman_Empire

I don't know much about art and don't really care for art as I find it a waste of time, but to think hundreds of centruies such a big empire would not have good art would be denial.

I don't think we mixed too much with Italians, probably more with greeks.

I don't know what Sinan thinks but I like facts such as this DNA map:

This is what I believe in and this is the fact, however to pass these things as law I'd like to see the same DNA test done by Turkey with more people involved in the testing.

So I believe we are very mixed race wise, historical finds in Istanbul show that many used Istanbul to cross to Europe thousands of years ago, so what you call European came from Turkey in the past, not all but many, others might have come from Russia, then there is the mixing of the neanderthals.

Go a bit less back in history and we have hittites and many others in the area.

Todays Turkey probably has less than 15% turkish DNA.

Ataturk had to unite the people and he saw nationalism as a good tool so he wen't with it. It's a political tool.

Even the irish come from Turkey:
http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/n...-from-turkish-farmers-83217437-237788351.html

"Europe's first farmers came from Turkey: DNA from Anatolian skeletons show farming spread from the region 8,000 years ago."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ns-farming-spread-region-8-000-years-ago.html

Then there is the Celtic people coming to Turkey:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatia

Even our capitols names Ankara comes from Angora in history, the word "Ankara" doesn't mean anything in turkish:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankara

There is so much history, but to say you are 100% turkish is wrong, you can like Turkey as a nation and be loyal and call yourself "Turk" as long as you live in Turkey no matter race.

Many of the original Turks made babies with the local population and most likely is that the local population in Turkey consisted of more people so the Turks got assimilated.

Just go to Turkey you see people with orange hair, black hair, brunette, blonde, red.

You see different skin tones, different nose shapes, different skull shapes on people.

You can actually see all the different races just by looking at peoples faces.

The only thing that makes us different from Europeans today is because of your colonial history, you looted the riches of India, China and many others and that is the only reason you are rich. When your riches run out you will see us as equals.

Europeans are similar to a man with a expensive car, he will look down on others around him. Until he becomes average too.

 

[MarkusS]

Ottoman had it's own art on pottery and buildings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_the_Ottoman_Empire

I don't know much about art and don't really care for art as I find it a waste of time, but to think hundreds of centruies such a big empire would not have good art would be denial.

I don't think we mixed too much with Italians, probably more with greeks.

I don't know what Sinan thinks but I like facts such as this DNA map:

This is what I believe in and this is the fact, however to pass these things as law I'd like to see the same DNA test done by Turkey with more people involved in the testing.

So I believe we are very mixed race wise, historical finds in Istanbul show that many used Istanbul to cross to Europe thousands of years ago, so what you call European came from Turkey in the past, not all but many, others might have come from Russia, then there is the mixing of the neanderthals.

Go a bit less back in history and we have hittites and many others in the area.

Todays Turkey probably has less than 15% turkish DNA.

Ataturk had to unite the people and he saw nationalism as a good tool so he wen't with it. It's a political tool.

Even the irish come from Turkey:
http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/n...-from-turkish-farmers-83217437-237788351.html

"Europe's first farmers came from Turkey: DNA from Anatolian skeletons show farming spread from the region 8,000 years ago."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ns-farming-spread-region-8-000-years-ago.html

Then there is the Celtic people coming to Turkey:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatia

Even our capitols names Ankara comes from Angora in history, the word "Ankara" doesn't mean anything in turkish:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankara

There is so much history, but to say you are 100% turkish is wrong, you can like Turkey as a nation and be loyal and call yourself "Turk" as long as you live in Turkey no matter race.

Many of the original Turks made babies with the local population and most likely is that the local population in Turkey consisted of more people so the Turks got assimilated.

Just go to Turkey you see people with orange hair, black hair, brunette, blonde, red.

You see different skin tones, different nose shapes, different skull shapes on people.

You can actually see all the different races just by looking at peoples faces.

The only thing that makes us different from Europeans today is because of your colonial history, you looted the riches of India, China and many others and that is the only reason you are rich. When your riches run out you will see us as equals.

Europeans are similar to a man with a expensive car, he will look down on others around him. Until he becomes average too.

I dont doubt the genetic and historic context.

But your assumption that we are rich because colonialism is wrong. In many cases colonialism cost more than it did bring inwards. Also renaissance italy was one of the most rich regions in the world ever without a single colony. Germany had not many colonies and those it had cost more than tehy pumped into, yet germany is one of teh richest nations on this planet.

The only thing that makes us different is culture. Your denies individualism and free thinking. We get raised to question evrything. In your culture its not allowed to ask questions.

I find it ironic that it is a saudi man who said in Saudi TV the backwardness of the orient is based on its own incapability to question itself.

I have no doubt you have great minds. Unfortunately you often bind them in chains.

I´m aware of your "art". We had it at school. Our teacher called it simplistic and primitivistic.

Art is what makes us different from animals. If you look at italian art then you see it embodies the center of human culture.

Bernini:

da Vinci:

Then there is the music, which is incredible important for us as well as literature.

I currently read Dantes Inferno. If you have any literature written in that period in the Ottoman empire feel free to tell me. II have a long flight ahead in november and that makes the time fly by.

 

[TurkeyForever]

I´m aware of your "art". We had it at school. Our teacher called it simplistic and primitivistic.

Art is what makes us different from animals. If you look at italian art then you see it embodies the center of human culture.

There is no point in discussing with a racist like yourself, you resort to racism all the time.

Your teacher doesn't sound like a real teacher, either a racist loser or someone you made up in your imagination to get your racism across.

First you mention your teacher calling our art simple and primitive, then you go on to say we are animals.

I don't know about your racism, but what I do know is that in the animal kingdom female dogs will spread their legs to hundreds of dogs. You call that advanced civilisation I call that a reason for shame and dishonor in a family.

Enjoy your super advanced civilisation we'd rather live with honor than to live in shame.

Why are you such a racist, did a foreigner do something bad to you?

Like I said no point in discussing with you, you're a racist and a narcissist living in a fantasy.

First I didn't agree with others in this forum calling you a racist, I said you were nationalistic, but you keep on talking about how you are better than us all the time yada yada yada.

 

[MarkusS]

There is no point in discussing with a racist like yourself, you resort to racism all the time.

Your teacher doesn't sound like a real teacher, either a racist loser or someone you made up in your imagination to get your racism across.

First you mention your teacher calling our art simple and primitive, then you go on to say we are animals.

I don't know about your racism, but what I do know is that in the animal kingdom female dogs will spread their legs to hundreds of dogs. You call that advanced civilisation I call that a reason for shame and dishonor in a family.

Enjoy your super advanced civilisation we'd rather live with honor than to live in shame.

Why are you such a racist, did a foreigner do something bad to you?

Like I said no point in discussing with you, you're a racist and a narcissist living in a fantasy.

First I didn't agree with others in this forum calling you a racist, I said you were nationalistic, but you keep on talking about how you are better than us all the time yada yada yada.

How is this racism? I state the obvious. My teacher was a women and a great one. I had latin and art with her. She was open to all cultures. I had a racist teacher as well. She was our math teacher and extremly unfair towards a guy who had an african mother. She actually told him to shut up because he isn´t in the bush. Thats racist amigo. Not our art teacher describing forms and geometric lines on ottoman carpets and paintings. Using the words simplistic and primitivistic is not downgrading. Its used to describe some aspects of art. Dadaism and Cubism (Picasso) was simplistic as well. That doesnt mean it was bad in any way.

Also i did not say you are animals. I said that art is what makes us different from animals. Dont misquote me.

How is it honor to not move above a primitive state?

We are the same race - mediterranean. So how can this be called racist? All i said is what i see as difference between your culture and ours.

Look, when i was a kid my father often worked aborad for the corporation he was employed at. This meant i and my family had to be with him. I doubt i could have been happy if i had to go to school in turkey. I mean on a real school there and not a expat one.

You have the chance to prove me wrong. But you can´t. All you do ist throwing personal attacks. Show me art from your country that blasts me away. Show me music i like to use during my training. Show me literature from turkey. I would love to read it. peace.