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Hope the engine, avionics, weaponry, radar all delight the pilots as well ...
 
well if they decide to build stealth UCAV then i am all for AMCA program to stop...but i dont see much progress in the area just some drawings like AURA...

True, but so is AMCA or? Besides the windtunel model, there is nothing official, not even if the project is cleared yet, not to forget that most of it is dependend on LCA to be ready.
A UCAV development should be even easier, because you need less techs (no radar, less avionics, ejection seat, or a cockpit...), even the stealth design should be easier, because it don't need to be very manouverable for air combats. The most important point is the unmanned control, where we need the experience from UAV developments.

Now to you point regarding a higher thrust engine, I agree with you but don't we have the chance to improve Kaveri now?
LCA MK2 will get a foreign engine with 95 - 100kN, but the US is offering even the GE 414 EPE with around 117kN, if we fund it. The EJ 200 engine is said to have a potential to improve it up to 120kN and is offereing us 3D TVC if we fund it and the M88 engine from Snecma, which is offered for a co-development with Kaveri engine also has 2 improvement stages. M88-3 with 90kN and M88-4 with up to 110kN and all these are possible options for Kaveri improvements, which could be used in a LCA Mk3 version.

To redesign LCAs airframe and fuselage for stealth should also not be a problem, only the internal weapon bays could be tricky, because one must redesign the fuselage for more space to carry at least some AAMs or light A2G weapons internally.

So redesigning LCA to a stealthy version and develop a UCAV could be easier than developing AMCA, not to forget the operational benefits of single engine fighters and UCAVS.
 
Some look at India's avionics

Weaponized Dhurv
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LCH front cockpit
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LCH from cockpit for the prototype
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LCA Tejas cockpit
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Some Sukhoi Cokpits

MKI FW
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MKI BK
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Su-30 MKK FW
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MKK BK
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Su-35
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PAK-FA ?

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J-11B ?

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Now people may consider this bit off-topic , but since MMRCA will the other latest Addition to out fleet , it stands to reason how the avionic on the Tejas can compare to the some of the best planes available for export now.

Saab Gripen NG

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Dassult Rafale

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Ef-2000

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MIg-29K/Mig-35

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F-16N

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F-18

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J-10 ?

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Back to LCA Tejas now ,

More pic's

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Supposed Rear Tejas cockpit

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Tejas simulator

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Back to LCA Tejas now ,

More pic's

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Supposed Rear Tejas cockpit

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Tejas simulator

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Either it is problem with the Photo or this looks not so gr8 to me. However I am not an expert. I am just looking at looks.
 
Old article but still relevant

Friday, December 04, 2009
By Prasun K. Sengupta

The Indian Air Force�s (IAF) ambitious plan of upgrading a second tranche of 40 MiG-27Ms to the UPG-2 standard is now likely to be realised in the near future, thanks to the official sanction being accorded to this longstanding project in the aftermath of defence minister A.K. Antony�s official visit to Moscow between October 14-15 to chair the the 9th meeting of the India-Russia Inter Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation (IRIGC-MTC). To date, the IAF has taken delivery of 40 MiG-27UPG-1 tactical strike aircraft from Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) � these being subjected to only a limited upgrade of the navigation-and-attack system. Under the UPG-2 tranche, 40 MiG-27Ms will be subjected to a comprehensive service life extension package that will include the installation of a new navigation-and-attack avionics package � known as DARIN-3 � and electronic warfare suite developed by the state-owned Defence Research & Development Organisation�s Bangalore-based Defence Avionics Research Establishment (DARE), and a re-engining programme that will see the MiG-27M�s existing Klimov-developed R29B-300 turbofan being replaced by a NPO Saturn-developed AL-31F turbofan (with a service life of 2,000 hours) incorporating a FADEC system. This same engine is currently being co-produced by HAL and Russia�s UFA Engine Industrial Association JSC for the Su-30MKI. The UPG-2 upgrades will be jointly carried out by HAL and Russia�s United Aircraft Corp (UAC).

The DARIN-3 avionics upgrade package was originally developed for another of the IAF�s ambitious project � the avionics upgrade-cum-re-engining of approximately 120 SEPECAT/HAL-built Jaguar IS interdictor/strike aircraft. The package includes the third-generation DARIN-3 navigation-system system and an integrated defensive aids suite, both of which have been designed and integrated by DARE, using several avionics LRUs originally developed for the Tejas LCA.

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The DARIN-3 cockpit for the Jaguar IS, shown at the Aero India 2009 expo, features the same HUD as that on the Tejas LCA, along with three large MFD-55 AMLCDs supplied by THALES-Samtel Display Systems, and HOTAS controls, all utilising a MIL-STD-1553B digital databus. It remains to be seen if these upgraded Jaguars (about 120 in all to be upgraded in batches of 61 and 59 and remain in service till 2022) will also be equipped with the fly-by-wire flight control system, which was tested out by BAE Systems way back in the mid-Eighties on the Jaguar. The core avionics computer for both the to-be-upgraded Jaguar IS and MiG-27Ms will be the open systems architecture mission computer (OSAMC), originally developed by DARE and now being series-produced by an India-US joint venture involving HAL, Edge Tech India and US-based Edgewood Ventures LLC. A version of the OSAMC is presently on board the Su-30MKI and upgraded MiG-27UPG-1s and Jaguar IM maritime strike aircraft (upgraded earlier to the DARIN-2 standard). For all-weather standoff attacks using precision-guided munitions, both the upgraded Jaguar IS and MiG-27UPG-2s will be equipped with RAFAEL Litening-3 laser designation pods as well as ELTA�s EL/L-8212 jamming pods.

The IAF is anxious to fast-track the service life-extension-cum-upgrading of both the 120 Jaguar IS strike aircraft (thereby recognized them for tactical interdiction) and the follow-on 40 MiG-27Ms (thereby having a dedicated force of 40 MiG-27UPG-1s and 40 MiG-27UPG-2s for close air support), with the Su-30MKIs taking up the deep interdiction responsibilities. IAF HQ has already firmed up its ASQRs for the ambitious Jaguar IS upgrade programme, which, like that for the MiG-27UPG-2, will also have a re-engining component.

IAF Darin-2 Jaguar cockpit

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Mig-27 UPG-1 cockpit
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Mirage Cockpit ?

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Mig-21 Bison

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Building an UCAV is not that easy..we still dont know how much capability we have in the field of Remote Split operations...building smart UCAVs is just not possible..there is also huge question mark on HAL/ISRO making a capable remotely operated UCAV..

however hope for the best..and if LCA is modified to become a stealth UCAV then there will no one more happy than me..
 
Building an UCAV is not that easy..we still dont know how much capability we have in the field of Remote Split operations...building smart UCAVs is just not possible..there is also huge question mark on HAL/ISRO making a capable remotely operated UCAV..

True, alone we won't do it for sure, but possibly with the French (NEURON), the Russians (Mig Skat), or the Israelis that already are co-developing the unmanned helicopters with us.
 
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Israelis that already are co-developing the unmanned helicopters with us.

Now thats a new one for me...care to elaborate..will be grateful..
 
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