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[Anony]

Yesterday, I was going through the specifications and proposed changes that will be there in tejas mk2. The developments and technology those will be there on tejas mk2 really will make it a true 4.5 gen fighter. But what I was really worried was about the timeline. 2018 proposed date for induction, we can easily take that to 2020 by going to the DRDO records.
The point is by 2020,China will be close to complete j-31 and most probably by 2025,Pakistan will start inducting j-31 which is a 5th gen fighter aircraft. Don't you all think though Tejas mk2 being a good fighter aircraft, will not have it's share of air dominance at that point of time.

 

[Black Widow]

From the pic it is clear that helmet extends beyond the MB seat. I think DASH is in use for a long time, then why did they choose last three months to make the necessary changes? May be they are preparing for high risk high AOA and spin tests

Sound logical.. ...

 

[Raje amar]

Yesterday, I was going through the specifications and proposed changes that will be there in tejas mk2. The developments and technology those will be there on tejas mk2 really will make it a true 4.5 gen fighter. But what I was really worried was about the timeline. 2018 proposed date for induction, we can easily take that to 2020 by going to the DRDO records.
The point is by 2020,China will be close to complete j-31 and most probably by 2025,Pakistan will start inducting j-31 which is a 5th gen fighter aircraft. Don't you all think though Tejas mk2 being a good fighter aircraft, will not have it's share of air dominance at that point of time.

as i see it you have made a little confusion in the role of the fighters in the securty of any nation.

though US is the first to develop 5th gen fighters did it operate 100% 5th gen fighter? the ans is a bg NO.
you need to have a mix of fighters with different roles.
way i see it LCA s designed for point defence & to protect air space of INdia over Indan skyes.
by 2025 Inda will operate a mix of jets say
PAK FA for air domiance.
AMCA as multirole.
Rafale as multirole.
LCA Mk2 as pointe defence.

with the configeration of LCA Mk2 i am confident it will serve India till 2040 by when they will be replaced by AURA.

 

[Gessler]

All fake news，which have been proved wrong. Give me an official link not some internet bulletin SH1T.

Ok? Thanks. The plane that crashed HAS TO BE a J-10 and OFFICIALLY acknowledged!

Here you go with your sorry a$$ -

Chinese official website confirms death of pilot in J-10 crash

^^ OFFICIAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT MAN, THAT IS!

 

[sancho]

From the pic it is clear that helmet extends beyond the MB seat. I think DASH is in use for a long time, then why did they choose last three months to make the necessary changes? May be they are preparing for high risk high AOA and spin tests

Ajai Shukla is not the best source wrt the IAF, he claimed many things that never came true.

Don't you all think though Tejas mk2 being a good fighter aircraft, will not have it's share of air dominance at that point of time.

It never was aimed to fight stealth fighters, but other 4th to 4.5 gen fighters, like JF 17, J10, or J11 and these will be available in our region and by that time in high numbers too.
J20 & J31 / Pak Fa & AMCA
J11 / MKI
J10 / Rafale
JF 17 / LCA
F16 / Mig 29 & Mirage 2000

 

[Gessler]

Ajai Shukla is not the best source wrt the IAF, he claimed many things that never came true.




It never was aimed to fight stealth fighters, but other 4th to 4.5 gen fighters, like JF 17, J10, or J11 and these will be available in our region and by that time in high numbers too.
J20 & J31 / Pak Fa & AMCA
J11 / MKI
J10 / Rafale
JF 17 / LCA
F16 / Mig 29 & Mirage 2000

I think LCA Mk-2 can handle both J-10A/B and JF-17 Blocks-1/2.

And I also think Mk-2 LCA will be a better match for F-16C than MiG-29UPG.

 

[sancho]

I think LCA Mk-2 can handle both J-10A/B and JF-17 Blocks-1/2.

And I also think Mk-2 LCA will be a better match for F-16C than MiG-29UPG.

JF 17 Block 2, J10B and LCA MK2 are meant to be a match or even better than F16 Block 50/52 and Mig 29UPG, so that shouldn't be surprising.

 

[Anony]

Ajai Shukla is not the best source wrt the IAF, he claimed many things that never came true.




It never was aimed to fight stealth fighters, but other 4th to 4.5 gen fighters, like JF 17, J10, or J11 and these will be available in our region and by that time in high numbers too.
J20 & J31 / Pak Fa & AMCA
J11 / MKI
J10 / Rafale
JF 17 / LCA
F16 / Mig 29 & Mirage 2000

Dude you have taken my areas of concerned too lightly or probably I should have put it in better way.

As LCA will be used for air defence against any enemy fighter which violates Indian air and we never know whether those will be JF-17,J-10 or F-16 which LCA will easily match or J-31 which will be way harder to detect by the radars on LCA.

And also that fighters are based on certain air bases, we could probably have one multi-role fighter squadron with one air defence fighter squadron on any airbase. Thus it will be the responsibility of LCA to successfully intercept the enemy fighter and if it fails then other fighters on that airbase will also become vulnerable.

I am not giving any more details with the hope that this time I probably have made it clear what my concern is.

 

[sancho]

And also that fighters are based on certain air bases, we could probably have one multi-role fighter squadron with one air defence fighter squadron on any airbase. Thus it will be the responsibility of LCA to successfully intercept the enemy fighter and if it fails then other fighters on that airbase will also become vulnerable.

First of all, all mentioned IAF fighters are multi role fighters and will be used for air defence roles, not only LCA, so there will be several types of fighters available anyway.
Secondly, most 4th to 4.5 gen fighters won't have a chance against stealth fighters, because of the BVR disadvantage, not only LCA.
Again, by the time there will be enough stealth fighters available and placed against us, we will have our own as well, so it will be their prime role to counter enemy fighters in first place. LCA is just the low end fighter of IAF, meant to support in air defence as well as CAS roles. And it will be capable enough to face it's contemporaries, that's where the aim is and not facing J20 or so.

 

[Dash]

Dude you have taken my areas of concerned too lightly or probably I should have put it in better way.

As LCA will be used for air defence against any enemy fighter which violates Indian air and we never know whether those will be JF-17,J-10 or F-16 which LCA will easily match or J-31 which will be way harder to detect by the radars on LCA.

And also that fighters are based on certain air bases, we could probably have one multi-role fighter squadron with one air defence fighter squadron on any airbase. Thus it will be the responsibility of LCA to successfully intercept the enemy fighter and if it fails then other fighters on that airbase will also become vulnerable.

I am not giving any more details with the hope that this time I probably have made it clear what my concern is.

there is a reason as to why all AFs keep a mix of high and low end fighters....its not economically possible for an AF to keep all 5th gen fighters...unless ur enemy is completely made of 5th gen. Lca is a good interceptor, but in case of war it will not be used for intercepting the incoming 5th gen fighters,a similar fighter + ur SAM will be used....these fighters are basicaly for one purpose..once the air superiority is achieved you need these to carry out bombing with little escort at less cost, support friendly troops at the ground.

So don't worry, an enemy fighter getting aggressive will first meet ur SAMs and then ur jets...

 

[trident2010]

India's desi fighter jet Tejas limps out of the ICU

The Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, which has remained grounded for more than three months, finally resumed flight-testing last week.

Seven flights of the Tejas have taken place since then without mishap.

The grounding of Tejas, which was kept secret, took place because of the new pilot's helmets.

Since these protruded above the ejection seats, the helmets could have prevented a smooth ejection by smashing into the fighter's canopy before it was blown off. Since that constituted a serious safety issue for pilots, flight-testing was halted since August.

Defence Research and Development Organisation chief V K Saraswat confirmed to Business Standard that the problem had been resolved.


India's desi fighter jet Tejas limps out of the ICU - Rediff.com News

 

[Abingdonboy]

India's desi fighter jet Tejas limps out of the ICU

The Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, which has remained grounded for more than three months, finally resumed flight-testing last week.

Seven flights of the Tejas have taken place since then without mishap.

The grounding of Tejas, which was kept secret, took place because of the new pilot's helmets.

Since these protruded above the ejection seats, the helmets could have prevented a smooth ejection by smashing into the fighter's canopy before it was blown off. Since that constituted a serious safety issue for pilots, flight-testing was halted since August.

Defence Research and Development Organisation chief V K Saraswat confirmed to Business Standard that the problem had been resolved.


India's desi fighter jet Tejas limps out of the ICU - Rediff.com News

Any idea what measures they took?
@sancho

 

[Gessler]

So this means we must have crossed 1950 flights by now.

 

[Black Widow]

So this means we must have crossed 1950 flights by now.

Where is the gentelman who use to update Each test flight of LCA??? Common mate, we are missing you. 7 test flight took recently and there is no update on PDF..

 

[rockstarIN]

LCA-Tejas has completed 1947 Test Flights Successfully. (28-Nov-2012).


(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-76,LSP4-56,LSP5-108,LSP7-5,NP1-4)


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LCA-Tejas has completed 1944 Test Flights Successfully. (22-Nov-2012).


(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-348,LSP1-74,LSP2-238,PV5-36,LSP3-75,LSP4-56,LSP5-106,LSP7-5,NP1-4)