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DRDO has plans for MCA, Indian government does not; No funding was given by the government for the MCA. You can expect Funding to be released after the induction of the LCA. The viability of the MCA programme should be re-examined in the context of PAK-FA and a suitable role should be found for it.
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What made you believe so?
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That would be 2030 (at-least) when India will make its next plane (with lot of foreign help).
Than you have to learn all again because the technology today will be obsolete in 23 years.
Any way, Its not to be discussed today and under this subject.
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That would be 2030 (at-least) when India will make its next plane (with lot of foreign help).
Than you have to learn all again because the technology today will be obsolete in 23 years.
Any way, Its not to be discussed today and under this subject.
2015 is the year to be our next aircraft project
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HAL speeds up LCA project
Saturday May 5 2007 00:00 IST
BANGALORE: Even as the Parliamentary Standing Committee on the defence has pulled up the Defence Research and Development (DRDO) for delay in the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas project, the Bangalore headquartered Defence PSU Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) is using all its resources to “speed-up” the prestigious project.
Despite time delays due to various reasons, the project has now entered the much-awaited production stage with the first Limited Series Production (LSP) aircraft hitting the sky recently.
Two divisions at HAL, Aircraft Research and Design Centre (ARDC) and a LCA unit are working on the project. That apart, Line Replacement Units (LRU) which are significant in any aircraft programme, have also been set-up by a dedicated team at the PSU.
“Our challenge is to speed up the LCA project and we are putting all our resources to expedite the whole process,” HAL Chairman and Managing Director Ashok K Baweja told this website’s newspaper on Friday. “Four more platforms will be added by the end of the year and with that we will have more platforms to conduct the trials.”
Six LCAs, Technology Demonstrator I, II and PV I and II and first LSP aircraft are already flying. As on Friday, Tejas has completed 660 Test Flights (TD1-207, TD2-257, PV1-133, PV2-28, PV3-34, LSP1-1).
Adding more platforms will aid in conducting various tests simultaneously and expedite the process of getting Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) and also the Final Operational Clearance. While IOC is expected by 2009, the final operational clearance is likely to come through by 2010.
The PSU, Baweja said, is working closely with the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) and the project is being reviewed every month. Bangalore-based DRDO lab, ADA has designed and developed the LCA and HAL is now producing the aircraft.
It is not unusual of HAL to take initiatives to expedite the project as it has a commitment of delivering 28 aircraft, of them eight LSP aircraft to the IAF. Delay in delivering the aircraft to IAF will dent the PSU's image and the top brass at the PSU are not in a mood to take any chances.
In its report presented in the parliament on Friday, the Parliamentary Committee on the defence has insisted on a strict deadline to complete the project.
http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IE120070504133006
This is great news, so by the end of the year there will 10 LCA's flying.
Saturday May 5 2007 00:00 IST
BANGALORE: Even as the Parliamentary Standing Committee on the defence has pulled up the Defence Research and Development (DRDO) for delay in the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas project, the Bangalore headquartered Defence PSU Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) is using all its resources to “speed-up” the prestigious project.
Despite time delays due to various reasons, the project has now entered the much-awaited production stage with the first Limited Series Production (LSP) aircraft hitting the sky recently.
Two divisions at HAL, Aircraft Research and Design Centre (ARDC) and a LCA unit are working on the project. That apart, Line Replacement Units (LRU) which are significant in any aircraft programme, have also been set-up by a dedicated team at the PSU.
“Our challenge is to speed up the LCA project and we are putting all our resources to expedite the whole process,” HAL Chairman and Managing Director Ashok K Baweja told this website’s newspaper on Friday. “Four more platforms will be added by the end of the year and with that we will have more platforms to conduct the trials.”
Six LCAs, Technology Demonstrator I, II and PV I and II and first LSP aircraft are already flying. As on Friday, Tejas has completed 660 Test Flights (TD1-207, TD2-257, PV1-133, PV2-28, PV3-34, LSP1-1).
Adding more platforms will aid in conducting various tests simultaneously and expedite the process of getting Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) and also the Final Operational Clearance. While IOC is expected by 2009, the final operational clearance is likely to come through by 2010.
The PSU, Baweja said, is working closely with the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) and the project is being reviewed every month. Bangalore-based DRDO lab, ADA has designed and developed the LCA and HAL is now producing the aircraft.
It is not unusual of HAL to take initiatives to expedite the project as it has a commitment of delivering 28 aircraft, of them eight LSP aircraft to the IAF. Delay in delivering the aircraft to IAF will dent the PSU's image and the top brass at the PSU are not in a mood to take any chances.
In its report presented in the parliament on Friday, the Parliamentary Committee on the defence has insisted on a strict deadline to complete the project.
http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IE120070504133006
This is great news, so by the end of the year there will 10 LCA's flying.
I think he is correct with what he understands. If you start by 2015, just like LCA. India should come up with a prototype in 2030.
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There aint much News, ADA has come up with Concept stage project proposal to the government. Dont expect it to be cleared before LCA achieve its IOC and FOC. 4 more LCA's to be built this year is a very very significant development. Which makes it 10 LCA's flying by the end of the year. I would expect the LCA to obtain FOC by 2010 if not before.
I expect the MCA to be a fighter bomber in lines with Su-34, IAF currently seems to very interested in it for a single squadron requirement.
I expect the MCA to be a fighter bomber in lines with Su-34, IAF currently seems to very interested in it for a single squadron requirement.
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Timeline of LCA.
Note: Rs 1 crore = Rs 10 million, $1 = Rs 47
1985: LCA launched with a time frame of 10 years after the Union cabinet sanctioned Rs 560 crore for the project in 1983. Aeronautical Development Agency to be the nodal agency.
1988: ADA prepares project definition phase (PDP) after consulting MBB, France, on some aspects.
1990: Air HQ finds PDP deficient in crucial parameters. Expert committee formed to resolve deadlock. It is agreed that two technology demonstration aircraft to be built before investments cleared for production.
1993: After three years of uncertainty, Phase 1 is sanctioned at a cost Rs 2,188 crore. Milestones include a roll out of first aircraft by 1995 and first flight by 1996.
1995: Roll out does happen but there are serious doubts as to whether the first flight would occur as major problems bedevil flight control systems as well as mastery over composites.
1998: With the aircraft far from ready, the US sanctions after Pokhran tests cause setbacks in flight control technologies and systems integration.
1999: Low speed and high speed taxi trials are done. But flight trials delayed because of minor fire caused by overheating valve near cockpit.
2001: First flight on January 4. More flights follow, including one on Feb 9 at Aero India 2001 [Bangalore, February 7 to 11]. It completes it's first block of tests on June 2.
Within 10 days after the first flight, both MiG and Sukhoi Bureaus expressed desire for joint LCA manufacture. Deputy Prime Minister[Russia] Ilya Klebanov too brought up this issue during his visit to India. They also offered to co-operate with India to develop a 5th Generation fighter(LFI). Other 5th gen aircraft include USA's ATF F-22 Raptor and Joint Strike Fighter [JSF].
LCA completed its first batch of tests in 12 flights instead of 15 - ahead of schedule - on June 2, 2001. TD-1 was subsequently sent for further modifications including advanced flight controls software as well as extended range of flight endurance.
For TD-1's block of first 12 flights:
Max Velocity: 610 km/h(0.71 Mach)
Max Altitude: 8 km
Max Angle of Attack: 18 degrees
Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) for Limited Series Production of Indian LCA. 8 aircraft are to be delivered by 2006.
2002: The TD-2 (KH2002) flies for 30 mins on 6.jun.2002. It is piloted by Wing Commander Tarun Banerjee.
India now has 4 pilots who have flown the LCA. Wing Commander Kothiyal flew the first six on TD-1, Wg. Cdr. Nambiar piloted the TD-1 on the next six flights. Wg. Cdr. Banerjee flew the TD-2 on its first 4 flights. "I think it's going to be an aircraft that our fighter pilots are going to love", he remarked after the first one. Sqd Ldr Sunith Krishna flew for the first time in the LCA on the TD-2's 5th flight.
Following TD-2's first flight, Kota Harinarayan left ADA for a stint at the Indian Institute of Science (IISc), Bangalore. M.B.Verma took over as Programme Director.
Along with the LCA, India is also developing aircraft like Saras, a 14 seater civilian turboprop aeroplane, Hansa trainer and Intermediate Jet Trainer [IJT]. The sub-sonic IJT, whose first flight should take place in 2002, will replace the aged Kiran jet trainers. IJT shares some 100 parts with the LCA. The IAF has placed orders for 225 such aircraft which cost $5 million a piece.
The real work on LCA was only started on 1993 which makes it only 14 years old, till then it was just discussions and paperwork...
Note: Rs 1 crore = Rs 10 million, $1 = Rs 47
1985: LCA launched with a time frame of 10 years after the Union cabinet sanctioned Rs 560 crore for the project in 1983. Aeronautical Development Agency to be the nodal agency.
1988: ADA prepares project definition phase (PDP) after consulting MBB, France, on some aspects.
1990: Air HQ finds PDP deficient in crucial parameters. Expert committee formed to resolve deadlock. It is agreed that two technology demonstration aircraft to be built before investments cleared for production.
1993: After three years of uncertainty, Phase 1 is sanctioned at a cost Rs 2,188 crore. Milestones include a roll out of first aircraft by 1995 and first flight by 1996.
1995: Roll out does happen but there are serious doubts as to whether the first flight would occur as major problems bedevil flight control systems as well as mastery over composites.
1998: With the aircraft far from ready, the US sanctions after Pokhran tests cause setbacks in flight control technologies and systems integration.
1999: Low speed and high speed taxi trials are done. But flight trials delayed because of minor fire caused by overheating valve near cockpit.
2001: First flight on January 4. More flights follow, including one on Feb 9 at Aero India 2001 [Bangalore, February 7 to 11]. It completes it's first block of tests on June 2.
Within 10 days after the first flight, both MiG and Sukhoi Bureaus expressed desire for joint LCA manufacture. Deputy Prime Minister[Russia] Ilya Klebanov too brought up this issue during his visit to India. They also offered to co-operate with India to develop a 5th Generation fighter(LFI). Other 5th gen aircraft include USA's ATF F-22 Raptor and Joint Strike Fighter [JSF].
LCA completed its first batch of tests in 12 flights instead of 15 - ahead of schedule - on June 2, 2001. TD-1 was subsequently sent for further modifications including advanced flight controls software as well as extended range of flight endurance.
For TD-1's block of first 12 flights:
Max Velocity: 610 km/h(0.71 Mach)
Max Altitude: 8 km
Max Angle of Attack: 18 degrees
Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) for Limited Series Production of Indian LCA. 8 aircraft are to be delivered by 2006.
2002: The TD-2 (KH2002) flies for 30 mins on 6.jun.2002. It is piloted by Wing Commander Tarun Banerjee.
India now has 4 pilots who have flown the LCA. Wing Commander Kothiyal flew the first six on TD-1, Wg. Cdr. Nambiar piloted the TD-1 on the next six flights. Wg. Cdr. Banerjee flew the TD-2 on its first 4 flights. "I think it's going to be an aircraft that our fighter pilots are going to love", he remarked after the first one. Sqd Ldr Sunith Krishna flew for the first time in the LCA on the TD-2's 5th flight.
Following TD-2's first flight, Kota Harinarayan left ADA for a stint at the Indian Institute of Science (IISc), Bangalore. M.B.Verma took over as Programme Director.
Along with the LCA, India is also developing aircraft like Saras, a 14 seater civilian turboprop aeroplane, Hansa trainer and Intermediate Jet Trainer [IJT]. The sub-sonic IJT, whose first flight should take place in 2002, will replace the aged Kiran jet trainers. IJT shares some 100 parts with the LCA. The IAF has placed orders for 225 such aircraft which cost $5 million a piece.
The real work on LCA was only started on 1993 which makes it only 14 years old, till then it was just discussions and paperwork...
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So Chinese engineers have stopped copying complete Russian planes and have started copying bits and pieces of western aircraft instead?
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