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[skynet]

Any news about sp 1 ????

 

[Donatello]

Anything apart from HAL is a positive step.............sarkari companies stink.
A nation of 7-8 million(israel) makes almost everything better than us.....wtf is that

And yet their IAI an RAFAEL, two majore defense companies, are Government owned/ventures.HAL can do it as well, you just need to purge it of corrupt members and political meddling. Learning from Tejas, the GoI should have fired all those responsible for delays and making fake milistones.

 

[he-man]

And yet their IAI an RAFAEL, two majore defense companies, are Government owned/ventures.HAL can do it as well, you just need to purge it of corrupt members and political meddling. Learning from Tejas, the GoI should have fired all those responsible for delays and making fake milistones.

As usual u don't know the real difference between our sarkari companies and theirs even urs.

Ours have 50% quotas for schedule caste/tribes and other backward castes.
In simple words 50 % of manpower should never even be there in pure technical terms.

What do u expect from such workforce??

 

[Juggernautjatt]

No,,not at the moment.

We need jv's at the moment to get some tech,,,maybe in 10-12 years we will start producing high level tech on our own

It will only be possible if they earn profit but MoD thinking is totally absurd.Take example of IN LPD tender MoD wants private shipyards to share their work with HSL (the same shipyard jis ne INS Sindhukirti ki maa bhen kardi upgrade karne k nam pe & the boat is unfixable now).
Another main reason for our failure in producing hi tech technologies is our useless universities.In Israel universities are main reason for their success.

 

[he-man]

It will only be possible if they earn profit but MoD thinking is totally absurd.Take example of IN LPD tender MoD wants private shipyards to share their work with HSL (the same shipyard jis ne INS Sindhukirti ki maa bhen kardi upgrade karne k nam pe & the boat is unfixable now).
Another main reason for our failure in producing hi tech technologies is our useless universities.In Israel universities are main reason for their success.

U are making good points.Anyone who has seen our universities knows how much we really suck.
We are at least 15 years behind western standards,,,,,even 7-8 years behind chinese

 

[Donatello]

As usual u don't know the real difference between our sarkari companies and theirs even urs.

Ours have 50% quotas for schedule caste/tribes and other backward castes.
In simple words 50 % of manpower should never even be there in pure technical terms.

What do u expect from such workforce??

Whether you have scheduled castes quota or not, the point is, if people are not working for the collective benefit, they don't need to be there. Perhaps, the government can remove such blanket quotas and hire on merit. That's how it happens in the rest of the world. If you don't fix this, then no matter what JV HAL does or how much money the government pours in, the same old case will keep happening. The choice is yours.

 

[he-man]

Whether you have scheduled castes quota or not, the point is, if people are not working for the collective benefit, they don't need to be there. Perhaps, the government can remove such blanket quotas and hire on merit. That's how it happens in the rest of the world. If you don't fix this, then no matter what JV HAL does or how much money the government pours in, the same old case will keep happening. The choice is yours.

LOL,,,no one can remove the quotas.
Thats the problem

 

[Echo_419]

No,,not at the moment.

We need jv's at the moment to get some tech,,,maybe in 10-12 years we will start producing high level tech on our own

What about that Indian company MKU,if we order in significant quantities they can open manufacturing plants here too

Whether you have scheduled castes quota or not, the point is, if people are not working for the collective benefit, they don't need to be there. Perhaps, the government can remove such blanket quotas and hire on merit. That's how it happens in the rest of the world. If you don't fix this, then no matter what JV HAL does or how much money the government pours in, the same old case will keep happening. The choice is yours.

That's the damn problem no one has the guts to remove quotas,even Modi Sarkar.but we can try a subtle solution pvt sector doesn't has this quota problem,so involvement of Pvt sector + we can slowly privatize HAL

 

[trident2010]

Quotas are the curse for India. Include more private sector as they don't have quotas and try to get best minds to get the job done.

 

[Jayanta]

Quotas are the curse for India. Include more private sector as they don't have quotas and try to get best minds to get the job done.

It is not just the quota system there is a strong regional lobby and nepotism inside the DRDO and other government organizations.

 

[he-man]

It is not just the quota system there is a strong regional lobby and nepotism inside the DRDO and other government organizations.

Nope,,mainly quota is at fault.
When ur 50% workforce gets in on the basis of caste then u can achieve nothing

 

[Juggernautjatt]

It is very easy for some engineers with 40% marks to get government job & for some people 80% are not enough.This is our quota system.

 

[he-man]

It is very easy for some engineers with 40% marks to get government job & for some people 80% are not enough.This is our quota system.

Only people who have given competition exams know this,,,rest know shit

 

[indiatester]

Only people who have given competition exams know this,,,rest know shit

I can even forgive the entry quota. What really hurts is quota even in promotions. The dumb@$$ sitting next to you gets promoted for just showing his face where as you have to work your's off.
That is a major demoralizing factor as well.

 

[Echo_419]

Only people who have given competition exams know this,,,rest know shit

why don't we remove quota in promotions,a lot of problems will be solved or slowly make all D-PSUs private