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But No MiG-35 will ever come to IAF in MMRCA only things are Rafael and EF-2000 in combine form might come to IAF and F/A-18E-F are exceptioncal cases too.

And if LCA will delay more than its possible that Taiwan and France will going to offer their Mirage-2000s to IAF...

Well the original MMRCA was for the Mirage 2k but the MoD dragged their feet so long that the Mirage 2k production lines were closed.
 
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Defence, foreign & finance policy is not child play which you change according to your wish. Btw Antony tenure's end in 2014 so he gives such timeframe to achieve those task. If next government form by other allience then their defence minister also take Antony's path or may be more strict to gain the title of father of Indian defence Industry which foundation laid by A.K. Antony.

I wish this was the story. Antony has been the Defense Minister for a major period of the UPA rule. He woke up too late, if this seriousness was shown at the beginning things might have improved. Any way lets see whats in store.
 
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I wish this was the story. Antony has been the Defense Minister for a major period of the UPA rule. He woke up too late, if this seriousness was shown at the beginning things might have improved. Any way lets see whats in store.

Its your opinion that he wake up but he is already awaken but he give DRDO free hand to work in which they achieve semi-success then Antony tight nuts of DRDO. People criticise Antony for delaying deals but do you think if people does not spare soldiers coffin then what happen to MMRCA. He make tough bargaining from competitors. He is one of minister of UPA who I have heartly respect.
 
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Its your opinion that he wake up but he is already awaken but he give DRDO free hand to work in which they achieve semi-success then Antony tight nuts of DRDO. People criticise Antony for delaying deals but do you think if people does not spare soldiers coffin then what happen to MMRCA. He make tough bargaining from competitors. He is one of minister of UPA who I have heartly respect.

Well you cannot dictate people personal opinion, with Antony's caliber may be people had high hopes. Two consecutive terms means 10 years almost a decade....and I think its a long time.
 
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Well you cannot dictate people personal opinion, with Antony's caliber may be people had high hopes. Two consecutive terms means 10 years almost a decade....and I think its a long time.

I don't have intention to change other people's opinion. He takes 10 years to lay foundation of Indian defence industry then after you take pride of their building. He make tough bargain in MMRCA if you think a corrupt man can trash all the main purpose of this tender to acheive latest aerospace technology & create industrial base for it. You can criticise him today but I am sure tommorrow you will praise him for his work for Indian defence industry.
 
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If India has inducted LCA as it is then they probably be in very strong position to recommend the desired changes and advancement in next block...honestly speaking I personally dont understand what India will achieve delaying a induction.

Had LCA been inducted back in 2008-09 the MRCA would had become pretty much pointless
problem is that LCA was devised in 80s to replace mig 21 however during early 2000s india realised that LCA is no longer useful to them because of its limted range and ammunition..its just like china doesnt want to induct JF-17

LCA did offer alot in the 80s and 90s to interest IAF but these days IAF needs something with longer range and payload. As neither its resources are limited nor its geography permits its to operate very light aircrafts
even if LCA is inducted now the number will be limted to around 100 while originally it was thought that LCA willl replace most of mig 21s i.e atleast 200-300 in number however now the a big bulk will taken up by the MRCA
 
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Had LCA been inducted back in 2008-09 the MRCA would had become pretty much pointless
problem is that LCA was devised in 80s to replace mig 21 however during early 2000s india realised that LCA is no longer useful to them because of its limted range and ammunition..its just like china doesnt want to induct JF-17

LCA did offer alot in the 80s and 90s to interest IAF but these days IAF needs something with longer range and payload. As neither its resources are limited nor its geography permits its to operate very light aircrafts
even if LCA is inducted now the number will be limted to around 100 while originally it was thought that LCA willl replace most of mig 21s i.e atleast 200-300 in number however now the a big bulk will taken up by the MRCA

how r u so sure about that 100 number?

we already have a plan to induct 180 tejas in next 12 years and i m sure we will end up with 300 + tejas in different tranches
 
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Had LCA been inducted back in 2008-09 the MRCA would had become pretty much pointless
problem is that LCA was devised in 80s to replace mig 21 however during early 2000s india realised that LCA is no longer useful to them because of its limted range and ammunition..its just like china doesnt want to induct JF-17

LCA did offer alot in the 80s and 90s to interest IAF but these days IAF needs something with longer range and payload. As neither its resources are limited nor its geography permits its to operate very light aircrafts
even if LCA is inducted now the number will be limted to around 100 while originally it was thought that LCA willl replace most of mig 21s i.e atleast 200-300 in number however now the a big bulk will taken up by the MRCA

Dear Friend i agree with each and every word you say but when i said advancement what i exectly mean changes india can make just like the changes US made in F16.. your right if its been inducted in 80 or maybe in 90s it would have become a very lethal till now
 
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Dear Friend i agree with each and every word you say but when i said advancement what i exectly mean changes india can make just like the changes US made in F16.. your right if its been inducted in 80 or maybe in 90s it would have become a very lethal till now

LCA was developed with a good potential in mind (materials, coatings, avionics...), the delays might eat up some of it, but still will be capable enough for the future. The most important point however is the industrial side, not the operational one and that's why it has to be developed till the end for sure to get the most out of it.
Btw, the development started only in the 80/90s so how should it be inducted by then?
 
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LCA-Tejas has completed 2265 Test Flights Successfully. (09-July-2013).

(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-366,LSP1-74,LSP2-275,PV5-36,LSP3-154,LSP4-90,LSP5-196,LSP7-51,NP1-4,LSP8-17)

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LCA-Tejas has completed 2259 Test Flights Successfully. (05-July-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-366,LSP1-74,LSP2-274,PV5-36,LSP3-153,LSP4-90,LSP5-196,LSP7-48,NP1-4,LSP8-16)
 
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LCA-Tejas has completed 2265 Test Flights Successfully. (09-July-2013).

(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-366,LSP1-74,LSP2-275,PV5-36,LSP3-154,LSP4-90,LSP5-196,LSP7-51,NP1-4,LSP8-17)

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LCA-Tejas has completed 2259 Test Flights Successfully. (05-July-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-366,LSP1-74,LSP2-274,PV5-36,LSP3-153,LSP4-90,LSP5-196,LSP7-48,NP1-4,LSP8-16)

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LCA was developed with a good potential in mind (materials, coatings, avionics...), the delays might eat up some of it, but still will be capable enough for the future. The most important point however is the industrial side, not the operational one and that's why it has to be developed till the end for sure to get the most out of it.
Btw, the development started only in the 80/90s so how should it be inducted by then?

This project was initiated in 1983
 
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LCA-Tejas has completed 2267 Test Flights Successfully. (10-July-2013).


(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-366,LSP1-74,LSP2-275,PV5-36,LSP3-154,LSP4-90,LSP5-198,LSP7-51,NP1-4,LSP8-17)

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LCA-Tejas has completed 2265 Test Flights Successfully. (09-July-2013).

(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-366,LSP1-74,LSP2-275,PV5-36,LSP3-154,LSP4-90,LSP5-196,LSP7-51,NP1-4,LSP8-17)
 
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