HAL Tejas | Updates, News & Discussions

[razgriz19]

its says STEALTHIER not STEALTH aircraft.
F-22 is a stealth aircraft.
Typhoon is a stealthier aircraft than other 4th generation fighters.

 

[Pak47]

You can't make a stealth fighter unless its designed as a stealth fighter from scratch. Lca 3 might feature.. lower RCS.

The picture in the article says it perfect "and a stealthier model the Mk.3"

 

[INDIAISM]

Because three blocks of gripen are already flying, two of them (gripen A/B and C/D) in service very succesfully in many countries, and gripen-NG also at an advanced stage of development.

HAL is the only entity that talks about working on a mk3 before mk1 is inducted or even cleared for service. MK2 is still on paper. Gripen entered full service some 15 years back. That's the difference.

Yes i agree with you that their are already 2 block of Gripen which are flying...but what you are forgot to mention is this that Sweden is not working on two fifth Gen Aircraft Projects and on the other hand HAL is already working on FGFA and AMCA project.....so the knowledge gained from these two project will definatly help us to work on LCA Mk3 and not to mention it will reduce the R&D cost of AMCA and FGFA....

 

[baqai]

What about inducting the MK1 first and than do some R&D based on feedback from the fliers?

 

[KRAIT]

What about inducting the MK1 first and than do some R&D based on feedback from the fliers?

Induction will start in 2012....FYI...planning for future is not a bad idea

 

[farhan_9909]

it also says

lca mkII would be given for trials in 2016

consider the trials for 1 aor 1 1/2 year

so if mass production of lca mkII starts in mid 2017 THAN first squarden in 2018 mid or 2019

 

[KRAIT]

it also says

lca mkII would be given for trials in 2016

consider the trials for 1 aor 1 1/2 year

so if mass production of lca mkII starts in mid 2017 THAN first squarden in 2018 mid or 2019

Till then we will be flying Rafale and Super Su 30 MKI and preparing for FGFA....ToT from Rafale will help in MK II....so no need to worry about it...

 

[surya kiran]

Yaar we should go step by step

1. Get the LCA inducted.
2. Get the MK2. ready and inducted
3. Upgrade the Mk2 with the latest avionics and EW systems which we can learn from the Rafale.
4. There is no way this plane can be made a complete 5th gen stealth plane. This will mean drastic changes to the existing frame and we all know what that means in IST (Indian Stretchable Time).

We have achieved what we want with the LCA and move on to the FGFA, Aura and AMCA. Else, we will be working on the LCA for another 50 years.

 

[sancho]

Yes i agree with you that their are already 2 block of Gripen which are flying...but what you are forgot to mention is this that Sweden is not working on two fifth Gen Aircraft Projects and on the other hand HAL is already working on FGFA and AMCA project.....so the knowledge gained from these two project will definatly help us to work on LCA Mk3 and not to mention it will reduce the R&D cost of AMCA and FGFA....

1) KFX twin engine stealth fighter concept for S. Korea:

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5893/ksaab108fi8.jpg


2) FS2020/25 single engine stealth fighter concept (Gripen follower):

http://i.imgur.com/VxAgP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bMNSB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DVjPV.jpg


3) Saab Filur UAV demonstrator (first flight 2005):

4) Not to forget that Saab is a part of the nEUROn UCAV development too:

It's a common mistake that Europe has no 5th gen developments, only because they didn't developed an own fighter. People simply ignore that half of Europe is involved in the F35, in UAV/UCAV developments, or that most of the companies had made stealth concepts even years ago.
Saab is defenitely ahead of Indian counterparts in terms of experience and know how and that although they are the smallest European manufacturer.

 

[sancho]

Because three blocks of gripen are already flying, two of them (gripen A/B and C/D) in service very succesfully in many countries, and gripen-NG also at an advanced stage of development.

HAL is the only entity that talks about working on a mk3 before mk1 is inducted or even cleared for service. MK2 is still on paper. Gripen entered full service some 15 years back. That's the difference.

Perfect explanation!

it also says

lca mkII would be given for trials in 2016

consider the trials for 1 aor 1 1/2 year

so if mass production of lca mkII starts in mid 2017 THAN first squarden in 2018 mid or 2019

MK2 production starts around 2015, induction into operational service is 2017

 

[sudhir007]

LCA-Tejas has completed 1878 Test Flights successfully. (07-June-2012).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-347,LSP1-74,LSP2-212,PV5-36,LSP3-55,LSP4-56,LSP5-90,LSP7-3,NP1-3)

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LCA-Tejas has completed 1874 Test Flights successfully. (05-June-2012).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-347,LSP1-74,LSP2-211,PV5-36,LSP3-53,LSP4-56,LSP5-89,LSP7-3,NP1-3)

 

[sudhir007]

Flight test update

LCA-Tejas has completed 1881 Test Flights successfully. (11-June-2012).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-347,LSP1-74,LSP2-214,PV5-36,LSP3-55,LSP4-56,LSP5-91,LSP7-3,NP1-3)

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LCA-Tejas has completed 1878 Test Flights successfully. (07-June-2012).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-347,LSP1-74,LSP2-212,PV5-36,LSP3-55,LSP4-56,LSP5-90,LSP7-3,NP1-3)

 

[SamantK]

Flight test update

LCA-Tejas has completed 1881 Test Flights successfully. (11-June-2012).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-347,LSP1-74,LSP2-214,PV5-36,LSP3-55,LSP4-56,LSP5-91,LSP7-3,NP1-3)

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LCA-Tejas has completed 1878 Test Flights successfully. (07-June-2012).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-347,LSP1-74,LSP2-212,PV5-36,LSP3-55,LSP4-56,LSP5-90,LSP7-3,NP1-3)

Can anyone tell me why the test flights happen in a seemingly random fashion... The latest planes should be up to date versions then why not test fly the latest ones...

 

[ralphleo]

Can anyone tell me why the test flights happen in a seemingly random fashion... The latest planes should be up to date versions then why not test fly the latest ones...

Well if you carefully observe how the test schedule has been developed it will be easier to figure out the random fashion. ADA is testing multiple systems in parallel for example while one vehicle being used to carry out bombing tests another is being readied for testing new upgraded radar. Similarly while one is used to push the flight envelope other is prepared for testing IFF & chaff dispensing. If they had more time they might be building on top after each test but here the testing is done in parallel to ensure speedy completion.

Also, in my opinion they are modifying each vehicle incrementally as oppose to putting everything on 1 to spread the risk should there be a crash.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Can anyone tell me why the test flights happen in a seemingly random fashion... The latest planes should be up to date versions then why not test fly the latest ones...

Well after a certain point the different prototypes are used to test and develop specific tech/techniques ie radar, HMDS, IFF etc and others can be used to push flight boundaries like seeing how to recover from all the different types of spin-Flat spins; Inverted spins; Power-off spins; Falling leaf spins . As this machine is complelty new fligth envelopes have to be establshed as well as proceudres of what to do in certain situations as each machine is different these have to tailor made.