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[drunken-monke]

Indian media is just a buch of peoples who sell news along with attached masala to it Hence from our parts it is always wise to think and then come to a conclusion. Though there is much much delay in the in the LCA program, I personally dont think that bashing LCA should be done. From having a look at Specs and data provided from felow 500, this bird deffinately deserves respect amongst the giants. Success is not a destination but a continuous journey where you can excell.

IAF sets a high standards for their requirement and also the addition in the needs may push project behind the schedule. Also as some of the members have already pointed out that failure of Kaveri engine to deliver in time hampered the program.

But still i think HAL has made several good addition to this toy and in coming version it would become the state of the art machine.. Its not only indegenization but self reliance in the defence equipments which India eyes and people should understand this and praise the ppl behind the scene, and same goes for JF 17 for Pak.

With regards
Drunken monke
Shrikant Parwate

 

[Capt.Popeye]

1. On a conservative estimate, we could do with 33 squadrons of LCA Mk 1 for these roles, one per division.
2. If we leave out the Mountain Divisions, for obvious reasons, the number comes down a bit. But that number has to be 'compensated' (and not with attack helicopters, which are just as unlikely, from Soviet experience, to work in mountain territory).
3. We need significant numbers of attack helicopters for the western front, but we need a different solution for the mountains. I wish somebody would listen.

@ Joe
i do agree with the need for an 'Army Aviation Corps/Fleet' but i'm a little skeptical about it taking shape; at least in the form that you suggest. It is very unlikely that 'fixed-wing' aircraft will get handed over to the Army in the foreseeable future. They will have to settle for an 'Air-Cavalry' kind of thing, with rotary wing elements.

Unfortunately for the Army, they do not have any equivalent of an Aircraft carrier that the IAF cannot operate. But that's my view for whatever its worth.

Actually my last post had to be abruptly abbreviated. The interesting part is that Sulur/Coimbatore was where INS Hansa was first set up in 1953 with a motley group of aircraft, including IN's first jets- the venerable DeHavilland Vampire. INS Garuda and Hansa were then solely to stream aviators towards the carriers and provide fleet support.

When the IN wanted to take over MR and long range air-borne ASW, they ran into a brick wall. After a lot of to-and-fro the IAF handed over their Super-Connies to the Navy (secretly hoping that the Navy would be unable to fly them). In fact if the IAF could, they would have handed over their B-24 Liberators (which earlier performed the MR role). Sadly (for them) the Liberators could'nt fly any more.The Super-Connies were noisy large birds discarded by Air India to the IAF and the only thing they had going for them was their range. By the time the Navy got them, they were barely serviceable. But they made do. Luckily for the IN, the romance with the Soviet Union had begun and 'Old Admiral' Gorshkov had a soft corner for the IN. Thus the entry of Il-38s and Tu-142s.

Funny thing is that the IAF had to use IN assets like the Alizes which were used in SIGINT missions and helped to set up the raids on PAF radar stations like Badin.

Another foot-note, (a few) naval aviators flew with the IAF during conflict; one of them being Adm. Arun Prakash with 20 Sqdn on Hunters. He was part of the raid on Sargodha where 'Chuck' Yeager's Beechcraft was destroyed. Yeager never forgave the IAF for that 'personal slight'.

 

[sancho]

do a combat aircraft actually need to carry dumb bombs........?

even with present f404 engine , the LCA still could have enough thrust if it fly only with 8 A2A missiles without carrying any dumb bombs...

doesn't LCA mkI can still be very good in defensive role , i mean there are many other aircrafts IAF has to bomb the enemy...

Not neccesarily dumb bombs, but PGMs are important to make LCA a true 4. gen multi role fighter. Carrying A2A loads makes it hardly a 3rd, or 3.5 gen fighter and the aim obviously should be higher.
For point defense, which will be the prime role of any LCA version anyway, the MK1 varient will be useful in BVR, with R77 missiles, a good radar, or data links to be guided by MKI, or Phalcons. In WVR it will lack flight performance at the moment, but the MK2 will catch up in that regard later.

Btw, LCA can't fly with 8 AAMs, because it must carry at least 1 fuel tank, which leaves 3 x weaponstations on each wing (the 8th station is for pods and not for weapons), so the maximum number will be 6.
If they already would have the inflight refuelling capability, they would be good as escorts for the Phalcon AWACS too.

1 or 2 billion max??? .. Indigenous programs give knowledge. Look at the broader picture what we can gain from it...

Doubtful, for the re-design from LCA to N-LCA IN paid $900 millions (AFAIK including 6 fighters), which means the whole LCA development must be much more expensive.
Of course the experience and knowledge that we get at the end are more important for the future of our aero industry, but that doesn't mean that we can close our eyes and just pay more and more. The costs has to be reasonable and balanced as well!

 

[palash_kol]

Doubtful, for the re-design from LCA to N-LCA IN paid $900 millions (AFAIK including 6 fighters), which means the whole LCA development must be much more expensive.

@sancho...its not $900 millions.....
Its 900 crore rupees....

 

[sancho]

@sancho...its not $900 millions.....
Its 900 crore rupees....

Right, had only the figure im my mind.

 

[GORKHALI]

 

[IndianArmy]

So even this Republik day no flying display by Tejas?? Only this??

 

[rockstarIN]

I think this is the naval version..

 

[SpArK]

Yup


















Chindits: LCA Navy, A330 MRTT To Debut In Aero India-2011

 

[IndianArmy]

I think this is the naval version..

hope so too

 

[SpArK]

India to showcase Tejas at Aero India


BANGALORE (BNS): The indigenously developed Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) Tejas will make a demonstration flight at Aero India to be held from February 9 to 13.

Tejas is the world's smallest lightweight, multi-role, single-engine tactical fighter aircraft developed by Indian aerospace giant Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL).

HAL is expected to fly the first prototype at the air show and unveiled the second. Two more prototypes are under construction, according to reports.

The LCH is due to get its Initial Operational Clearance in December and will be inducted by the Indian Air Force by 2012-13.

The Tejas undertook its inaugural flight on 29th March last year followed by the second and third in April and May.

The copter is an attack variant of the HAL Dhruv. It is powered by Shakti engines and equipped with Forward Looking Infra Red Imaging Technology, Laser Range Finder facilities for target acquisition under all-weather conditions and data link for network centric operations


India to showcase Tejas at Aero India - Brahmand.com

 

[IndianArmy]

India to showcase Tejas at Aero India


BANGALORE (BNS): The indigenously developed Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) Tejas will make a demonstration flight at Aero India to be held from February 9 to 13.

Tejas is the world's smallest lightweight, multi-role, single-engine tactical fighter aircraft developed by Indian aerospace giant Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL).

HAL is expected to fly the first prototype at the air show and unveiled the second. Two more prototypes are under construction, according to reports.

The LCH is due to get its Initial Operational Clearance in December and will be inducted by the Indian Air Force by 2012-13.

The Tejas undertook its inaugural flight on 29th March last year followed by the second and third in April and May.

The copter is an attack variant of the HAL Dhruv. It is powered by Shakti engines and equipped with Forward Looking Infra Red Imaging Technology, Laser Range Finder facilities for target acquisition under all-weather conditions and data link for network centric operations


India to showcase Tejas at Aero India - Brahmand.com

poor journalism, what exactly are they trying to say?? LCH or LCA??

 

[SpArK]

poor journalism, what exactly are they trying to say?? LCH or LCA??

I havent figured out that yet..

 

[IndianArmy]

I havent figured out that yet..

I jumped Of My chair the moment I read LCH tejas....

 

[Capt.Popeye]

I havent figured out that yet..

Hey Benny, that looks like very poor "subbing" on the original copy. Jumps from LCH to Tejas to version of ALH Dhruva.. The sub-editor seems to know less than the original writer about the subject. Modern journalism.