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[ironman]

India Sets Dec. 27 Deadline For Tejas IOC​

Sep 14, 2010

By Anantha Krishnan M.
BENGALURU, India

India has set a Dec. 27 deadline to complete the certification process for its Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA)

According to P.S. Subramanyam, director for combat aircraft at the Aeronautical Development Agency, the deadline was set to make sure Tejas enters its much-awaited initial operational clearance phase. The certification process is monitored by the Center for Military Airworthiness and Certification.

“We are at it, and close to 400 scientists and engineers are currently working on the certification program,” he says. “We need to consolidate all that we have done in the last 20 years and put it to the scrutiny of the certification agency. We have set ourselves a target to complete the certification process and December 27 will be a significant day for India’s military aviation program.”

Subramanyam spoke before a select group of defense correspondents during the official logo launch of the Bangalore Defense and Aerospace Journalists’ Forum.

The LCA chief said that an additional 20 Tejas aircraft are on the way, bringing the total to 40. The first 40 will be MK-1s, while the next 86 will be Mk-2s, with a new powerplant. The Indian navy is projected to receive 56 of the aircraft, while 16 trainers also will be delivered.

Sources say the limited series production vehicle (LSP-5) is expected to fly very soon, with the LSP-6 (an experimental platform), LSP-7 and LSP-8 following suit.

“The engine ground run for LSP-5 is over, and we may conduct the first flight after sorting out some last-minute teething issues,” a source said.

India Sets Dec. 27 Deadline For Tejas IOC | AVIATION WEEK

So the total will be.. 40+86+56+16 = 198

 

[rockstarIN]

Mk-1 will run with GE engine and MK-2 with Kaveri/Eurojet engine?

What else is the diff in Mk1 & Mk2?

 

[IndianArmy]

Mk-1 will run with GE engine and MK-2 with Kaveri/Eurojet engine?

What else is the diff in Mk1 & Mk2?

Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) is currently working on two different design variant for Tejas MK-2, while major changes in both the design are wings position in terms of alignment to make the aircraft more aero dynamic and also to reduce drag, Tejas MK-2 will also have design changes to its fuselage and will have a bigger wing to carry heaver payload, Tejas Mk-2 will also be able to carry more internal fuel due to improvement in fuselage design and wing

 

[sudhir007]

So the total will be.. 40+86+56+16 = 198

so the total no. Touch to 200
Iaf going only for 102(86+16) Mk-2 is'nt very small no.

 

[rockstarIN]

Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) is currently working on two different design variant for Tejas MK-2, while major changes in both the design are wings position in terms of alignment to make the aircraft more aero dynamic and also to reduce drag, Tejas MK-2 will also have design changes to its fuselage and will have a bigger wing to carry heaver payload, Tejas Mk-2 will also be able to carry more internal fuel due to improvement in fuselage design and wing

So MK-2 is not a light fighter anymore, It can be regarded as MRCA right?

 

[IndianArmy]

So MK-2 is not a light fighter anymore, It can be regarded as MRCA right?

Not Really, Dont know, Lets wait and See In Which Class It falls Under..

 

[anathema]

Mk-1 will run with GE engine and MK-2 with Kaveri/Eurojet engine?

What else is the diff in Mk1 & Mk2?

There has been countless discussions on what will be different on this very thread -- you can search for detailed info.

Some of the major ones-

1) Aesa radar
2) a new EW suite Mayavi co-developed with Israel.
3) Increasing length of wings to carry more payload.

 

[rockstarIN]

Prototypes
Model of Tejas Naval version
Conceptual drawing of the Naval LCA
LCA Trainer

Aircraft already built and projected models to be built. Model designations, tail numbers and dates of first flight are shown.

Technology Demonstrators (TD)

* TD-1 (KH2001) - 4 Jan 2001
* TD-2 (KH2002) - 6 June 2002

Prototype Vehicles (PV)

* PV-1 (KH2003) - 25 November 2003
* PV-2 (KH2004) - 1 December 2005
* PV-3 (KH2005) - 1 December 2006 - This is the production variant.
* PV-4 - Originally planned to be a Naval variant for carrier operations, but now a second production variant.
* PV-5 (KH-T2009) - 26 November 2009 - Fighter/Trainer Variant

Naval Prototypes (NP)

* NP-1 - Two-seat Naval variant for carrier operations.Rolled out on July, 2010.[62]
* NP-2 - Single-seat Naval variant for carrier operations.

Limited Series Production (LSP) aircraft

Currently, 28 LSP series aircraft plus 20 aircraft are on order.

* LSP-1 (KH2011) - 25 April 2007
* LSP-2 (KH2012) - 16 June 2008 This is the first LCA fitted with GE-404 IN20 engine.
* LSP-3 23 April 2010 The first aircraft to have the Hybrid MMR radar[28][41] and will be close to the IOC standard.
* LSP-4 (KH2014) - 2 June 2010 The first aircraft that was flown in the configuration that will be delivered to the Indian Air Force[42] In addition to the Hybrid MMR, the aircraft also flew with a functioning Countermeasure Dispensing System [63]
* LSP-5 - Planned to fly by June 2010. In addition to all the systems fitted in LSP-4, it will have night lighting within the cockpit, and an auto-pilot.[63]
* LSP-6 to LSP-28 - Planned to fly by late 2010.



So by Dec. 27th, LSP-4 & LSP-5 will get transferred to IAF .

 

[IndianArmy]

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[Dash]

So MK-2 is not a light fighter anymore, It can be regarded as MRCA right?

It wil simply not fall into that catagory because it iwill not be a twin engine fighter.

MRCA will have significant land, aerial and sea attack capability, with larger payloads. LCA in brief will not be there anyday for its lesser payload and not being a mlulti role platform.

 

[IndianArmy]

It wil simply not fall into that catagory because it iwill not be a twin engine fighter.

MRCA will have significant land, aerial and sea attack capability, with larger payloads. LCA in brief will not be there anyday for its lesser payload and not being a mlulti role platform.

Well Sir, there are Single Engined Fighters Like Grippen who fall into the category of MRCA, And LCA MK 2 will be a New Design according to HAL Chairman.... Lets Keep the fingers crossed

 

[rockstarIN]

It wil simply not fall into that catagory because it iwill not be a twin engine fighter.

MRCA will have significant land, aerial and sea attack capability, with larger payloads. LCA in brief will not be there anyday for its lesser payload and not being a mlulti role platform.

F-16 & Grippen is single engined air crafts.

 

[Dash]

F-16 & Grippen is single engined air crafts.

They do, but look at the T/W of these A/c which makes them carry better weapons with larger loads.
F-16 and Gripen have better weapons package.

The MRCA states that an aircraft has to be multirole to be in this tender.
Which means A multirole (or multi-role) combat aircraft is an aircraft that can be used as both a fighter aircraft and a ground attack aircraft and also can be configured for maritime strike mode.

If you look at the bomb rack for LCA, lete say you give it a Ground targeting POD and a Tank, its weapon carrying ability reduces. where in case of Gripen- NG and F-16 block 60, its not the same.

All F-16, Gripen and LCa dont come into Heavy class. where F-16 is medium multirole class and Gripen is an intermediate class btn light and medium with multirole.


Like Indian Army Sir said -

The key here LCA in future say in MK2 will have more multirole abilities when they increase the weapons load and give a better engine for increased TW ratio.

Its certainly not multirole now.