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[black flame]

It is..here's another picture.

PAF Officer

well i do agree its a pak officer but in context to the previous post the picture u posted is of mig 29 simulator......... check the post number 2737 page 183 of the same thread u will find out the difference that the pic u posted is mig 29 indeed and its clear if required zoom it u will see the similarity

well more over we all know about chinies and need less to say about their reverse engineering talent...............

 

[sancho]

Don't you think operational doctrine is outdated.....or maybe tech hasn't met strategic thinking. Aren't Western flight computers powerful enough to aim and lock onto enemy crafts?

LCA will have only 2 trainers per squadrons, just like any other comparable fighter in the west. The only IAF fighter that has only twin seats is the MKI, because its meant for long range and endurance air superiority missions.
Twin seat config always have advantages in such missions, or in the strike role, that's why twin seat versions often will be used for the strike role.

How come they make the same plane with the same engine take off at 200m on carrier vs 800m on land? Can anyone enlighten me on this? Is the max weapon load lesser for the navy? Does the addition of LEVCONS do all the trick? Is there a trade off for adding this? If not, why is this not being added to the IAF versions?

Regarding the weapon load, we might take the estimations that Saab published for the Sea Gripen to compare it with N-LCA. Saab officials said that the payload of the land based Gripen NG (6t), will be reduced about 1/3 for the Sea Gripen on a STOBAR carriers. For N-LCA from Gorshkov, or Vikrant carriers that means, only 2.7t payload left for fuel tanks and weapons.

 

[flanker143]

hey guys when is new engine competition going to end ??

 

[CONNAN]

LCA Tejas Mk-2UPDATE

BY : IDRW NEWS NETWORK

Sources close to idrw.org have informed that Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) is currently working on two different design variant for Tejas MK-2, while major changes in both the design are wings position in terms of alignment to make the aircraft more aero dynamic and also to reduce drag, Tejas MK-2 will also have design changes to its fuselage and will have a bigger wing to carry heaver payload, Tejas Mk-2 will also be able to carry more internal fuel due to improvement in fuselage design and wing.

Engine update:

Final negotiations for purchase of new engines for Tejas MK-2 has begun and decision will be soon made public, while both engine manufactures have promised that their engine will easily be integrated with Tejas MK-2 airframe ,but both have asked for 2 years to make some minor changes to the engines and have already provided details regarding this to ADA and HAL , changes mostly likely be change in position of gear box and other pipe systems , once contract is signed modified engines will be delivered by 2012 year end or 2013 and integration into airframe might take place by 2013 year end and first flight might take place by 2014 year end or early 2015 .

Naval Tejas:

Indian Navy have already asked for new engines for the Naval Tejas, and only NP-1 and NP-2 will be powered by General Electric F404-IN20 engine which also powers Tejas MK-1 variant of Indian air force, while Indian Navy other than engine change has not made any change to their original ASR, so most probably Navy will go with Tejas MK-1 Naval Prototype design with higher trust engine rather than Tejas MK-2 design.

 

[Choppers]

India Establishing SBTF For Naval Tejas​

Jun 23, 2010
By Anantha Krishnan M.
BENGALURU, India

India is setting up its first shore-based test facility (SBTF) to flight test the naval version of its homegrown Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA).

The SBTF will be established at the naval air station in Goa and will be the third such facility in the world along with those of the U.S. and Ukranian navies. The Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited’s (HAL) Aircraft Research and Development Center are concluding last-minute, end-to-end tests in Bengaluru leading up to the aircraft’s July 6 rollout (Aerospace DAILY, June 23).

“It’s a near-perfect recreation of a ship on the shore,” a naval source tells AVIATION WEEK. “The SBTF at Goa is based on India’s Indigenous Aircraft Carrier [IAC] that’s being built at Cochin Shipyard, with the same measurements. The facility simulates an aircraft carrier with ski jump and arrested recovery.”

SBTF’s steel structure is being constructed by Goa Shipyard, while all civil engineering activities are being conducted by Research & Development Establishment (Engineers), Pune.

“The integration and installation work of all the specialized equipment for the facility will be done by the Russians,” an official says. “This facility is a major boost to the Tejas naval program, as the Indian government had included all the necessary funding for the SBTF program [which] was cleared in 2003. We have been very keenly following this program right from the word go.”

The naval test pilots attached to the National Flight Test Center will carry out all the initial flights of the NP-1 and NP-2 naval Tejas prototypes at HAL’s military airport in Bangalore leading up to the carrier-suitability test (CST). The unit will then move from CST to SBTF. The takeoff area ramp will be ready by the last quarter of 2011 and the landing area will be complete in 2012. A full-fledged telemetry unit also is coming to Goa.

Sources also confirmed that in addition to training Tejas naval pilots, the SBTF will have the ability to train MiG-29K pilots prior to carrier operations.

The SBTF is being established under the guidance of the Naval Project team operating from ADA in Bangalore.

Tejas photo: ADA

India Establishing SBTF For Naval Tejas | AVIATION WEEK

 

[Tejas-MkII]

end-to-end tests in Bengaluru leading up to the aircraft’s July 6 rollout

July: N-LCA
August: LSP-5
September:LSP-7
December:LSP-8

Probably IMO LSP-6 with Kaveri or IRST or Mayawi or A***

Also, it shows they have the capability of producing 10-12 LCA a year easily.

 

[jha]

Probably IMO LSP-6 with Kaveri or IRST or Mayawi or A***

Dont wish for too much...

 

[flanker143]

Probably IMO LSP-6 with Kaveri or IRST or Mayawi or A***

Dont wish for too much...

is there any IRST under devleopment for lca ??

and also isn't mayawi already developed?????

 

[Hasnain2009]

for trolls, it would be pleasure, if you know which engine jf-17 uses.

Btw RADAR is India's only

Why bring JF-17 here? THis thread is for LCA.

As per my info!

Indigenous LCA has:

1. American Engine
2. Israeli avionics
3. French Avionics
4. Italian wings
5. Russian AAM
6. Israeli radar

But still indigenous

 

[jha]

is there any IRST under devleopment for lca ??

and also isn't mayawi already developed?????

MAYAWI imo is still in testing phase...there was some buzz about IRST being under development but i am not sure..

 

[sudhir007]

After the steel cutting ceremony held by Goa Shipyard Ltd (GSL) last month in its yard ,GSL has started work on INS HANSA Naval base also , Cmde A. S. Baghel, Chief Staff Officer (Air), Goa Naval Area who was present in steel cutting ceremony did the honors , The GSL has been appointed the main co-coordinator for this project and will also be purchasing ABA Ship building steel , shore-based test facility (SBTF) will be a exact replica of IAC (Indigenous aircraft carrier)-1 which has been under construction at Cochin Shipyard Ltd (CSL) , GSL is working in coordination with CSL and ADA (Aeronautical Development Agency), while civil work will be carried out by a pune based DRDO lab R&DE (E) .

SBTF will be used to simulate an aircraft carrier for full-fledged flight testing of ship-borne attack aircraft as well as for training pilots. development is mostly related to test Naval Tejas in development by ADA while Mig-29k and sea harrier pilots will also be doing practice on this runway when fully operational , SBTF will also be able to operate any aircraft which Indian navy may operate in future that includes Naval Pak-Fa .

shore-based test facility (SBTF) project will be first such facility in South Asia and the third in the world.Project will be completed by end of 2012 ,while first flight of Naval Tejas is expected by end of 2010 and roll out ceremony will be held in July , after initial testing Naval Tejas will be based in Goa for a long Haul .

MIG BUZZ AT INS HANSA

Our local contributor from Goa has informed us that Mig-29k has been carrying out routine flight from the base , and are mostly seen in pairs , as per our informant Mig-29k mostly have sorties on Tuesday and Wednesday and its a great sight to watch them taking off from the surrounding road to the INS HANSA , Base is also home to Sea harriers and Kiran mk2 trainer jet and the best view could be from Bogmallo beach which is very close to the base and also is home to India’s only naval museum .

http://idrw.org/?p=2090

 

[soaringphnx]

Why bring JF-17 here? THis thread is for LCA.

As per my info!

Indigenous LCA has:

1. American Engine
2. Israeli avionics
3. French Avionics
4. Italian wings
5. Russian AAM
6. Israeli radar

But still indigenous

Atleast India is making an effort. Many things in the LCA are indigenous. All major systems of an aircraft like engine, radar, AAMs are currently being developed in India. Sadly, delays in some of these programs have forced India to seek foreign help. At any rate, there are more Indian systems in the LCA than there are pakistani systems in the JF-17/FC-1. Anyway, the JF-17 is only a joint venture. I don't see Pakistan coming with an indigenous project.

 

[flanker143]

Why bring JF-17 here? THis thread is for LCA.

As per my info!

Indigenous LCA has:
American Engine
Israeli avionics
French Avionics
Italian wings
Russian AAM
Israeli radar

But still indigenous

better luk at ur own projects before insulting others

jf 17 thunder jointly developed !!!!!!!!!

AIRFRAME---CHINESE
AVIONICS---CHINESE
RADAR--- CHINESE
ENGINE--- RUSSIAN
WEAPONS-- CHINESE

SO THE QUES OF DECADE ARISES--- WHAT'S PAK MADE IN IT ?????

I GUESS THE ANSWER IS THE ALL NEW .. STATE OF THE ART...nth GENERATION ....SOPHISTICATED FIGHTER JET "NAME" ie THE ALMIGHTY JF 17 THUNDER

IN DEVELOPMENT OF WHICH PAC OFFICIALS SPENT MANY HARDWORKING YEARS !!!!!

THIS IS INDEED THE BEST JOINT VENTURE I HAV EVER SEEN !!!!

 

[nramesh1990]

Good Reply

---------- Post added at 12:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:22 PM ----------

better luk at ur own projects before insulting others

jf 17 thunder jointly developed !!!!!!!!!

AIRFRAME---CHINESE
AVIONICS---CHINESE
RADAR--- CHINESE
ENGINE--- RUSSIAN
WEAPONS-- CHINESE

SO THE QUES OF DECADE ARISES--- WHAT'S PAK MADE IN IT ?????

I GUESS THE ANSWER IS THE ALL NEW .. STATE OF THE ART...nth GENERATION ....SOPHISTICATED FIGHTER JET "NAME" ie THE ALMIGHTY JF 17 THUNDER

IN DEVELOPMENT OF WHICH PAC OFFICIALS SPENT MANY HARDWORKING YEARS !!!!!

THIS IS INDEED THE BEST JOINT VENTURE I HAV EVER SEEN !!!!

cool......................

 

[BJlaowai]

better luk at ur own projects before insulting others

jf 17 thunder jointly developed !!!!!!!!!

AIRFRAME---CHINESE
AVIONICS---CHINESE
RADAR--- CHINESE
ENGINE--- RUSSIAN
WEAPONS-- CHINESE

SO THE QUES OF DECADE ARISES--- WHAT'S PAK MADE IN IT ?????

You have missed some other points
DESIGN --- CHINESE
TESTING --- CHINESE
MANUFACTURE --- CHINA
PAINTING --- PAKISTAN