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[Chandragupt Maurya]

Bro, I was eating dinner and almost choked on my food. Please add a disclaimer next time.

Comedic gem of a post though.

The F-16 design is over 40 years old, with the first flight taking place in 1974, and the design has undergone several upgrades since then. While the F-16 is still a highly capable aircraft, newer 4th generation fighter jets such as the Tejas, Gripen, Rafales, Eurofighter Typhoon, and Chengdu J-10C have benefitted from advancements in technology and engineering that have allowed them to offer superior performance in various areas, such as avionics, stealth features, maneuverability, range, and weapon systems. However, it's important to note that the F-16 remains a widely-used and proven platform, with a long history of successful combat operations, and it continues to receive upgrades and modernization programs to keep it relevant.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

I wouldn't say best in the world.

But it is a very good replacement for mig21

The superiority of one aircraft over the other would depend on specific mission requirements and circumstances. However, in a one-on-one comparison between the Tejas and F-16 Viper, the Tejas has far superior technological advantages. For instance, Tejas uses advanced composites for its airframe, which makes it lighter and more agile than the F-16. Moreover, the Tejas has a highly advanced and indigenous avionics suite, including its Uttam AESA radar, which provides superior situational awareness and target tracking capabilities. Additionally, the Tejas has the capability to operate from shorter runways, making it more flexible and adaptable to different mission requirements.

 

[Falcon26]

The F-16 design is over 40 years old, with the first flight taking place in 1974, and the design has undergone several upgrades since then. While the F-16 is still a highly capable aircraft, newer 4th generation fighter jets such as the Tejas, Gripen, Rafales, Eurofighter Typhoon, and Chengdu J-10C have benefitted from advancements in technology and engineering that have allowed them to offer superior performance in various areas, such as avionics, stealth features, maneuverability, range, and weapon systems. However, it's important to note that the F-16 remains a widely-used and proven platform, with a long history of successful combat operations, and it continues to receive upgrades and modernization programs to keep it relevant.

I am convinced you’re just trolling us at this point.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

I am convinced you’re just trolling us at this point.

Providing the data to prove your point is necessary. Name-calling won't make your point valid. That doesn't prove anything.

As a polar bear, I can say that Tejas are crap and can't even stand up to a rickshaw.

Only when you provide the data to support your argument, can I reply and determine whether the Tejas, F16, or any fighter jet is good or bad. The decision should be based on the specifications of the particular jet in question, rather than empty rants.

 

[MirageBlue]

The Tejas are a beautiful small planes. It would have been a plane to be proud of for Indians if it was indicted about a decade and half ago. It’s currently a vanity product rather than war fighting system.

That's your opinion and is based on your bias more than anything else. Tejas Mk1s have been participating in international exercises, going up against F-15s, Rafales, Typhoons and even F-35s. That is to hone the warfighter's skills and also to validate tactics and look for areas of improvement for the Tejas Mk1.

The upcoming Tejas Mk1A will be one of the most capable fighters in the IAF with a host of avionics improvements over the Tejas Mk1. And the IAF has committed to 126 Tejas Mk1/Mk1A not for vanity but for their utility.

If rumours are to be believed, there are more Tejas Mk1As in the offing with HAL having increased it's production capacity to 24 with the setting up of the third assembly line for the Tejas at HAL Nashik.

 

[MirageBlue]

Lovely shot of a Tejas Mk1 from No.18 'Flying Bullets'

 

[NagaBaba]

Lovely shot of a Tejas Mk1 from No.18 'Flying Bullets'

beautiful, shame only droptanks but.. rest of the pylons empty.. full loadout waali pic milegi ?

 

[MirageBlue]

beautiful, shame only droptanks but.. rest of the pylons empty.. full loadout waali pic milegi ?

It was taken during Exercise Cope India 2023. Obviously they are going to simulate missiles like the Astra and Derby BVRAAM. Why carry live or inert missiles when the object of the exercise is to simulate them and see how it works in an exercise?

I was looking more for the ACMI pod, which is used to track the fighter in an exercise. An Israeli ACMI pod from a company named BVR was selected by the IAF for integration with multiple fighters including the Tejas.

 

[NagaBaba]

It was taken during Exercise Cope India 2023. Obviously they are going to simulate missiles like the Astra and Derby BVRAAM. Why carry live or inert missiles when the object of the exercise is to simulate them and see how it works in an exercise?

I was looking more for the ACMI pod, which is used to track the fighter in an exercise. An Israeli ACMI pod from a company named BVR was selected by the IAF for integration with multiple fighters including the Tejas.

sure, but still be nice to see a full loadout, shame some pics if you got.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

I wouldn't say best in the world.

But it is a very good replacement for mig21

Tejas is not just a replacement for the MiG-21; it is also intended to be a multi-role combat aircraft. It incorporates advanced technologies such as fly-by-wire flight control, composite materials, and advanced avionics, making it a highly capable aircraft. The Tejas is designed to be highly maneuverable and effective in air-to-air combat, as well as in ground attack and reconnaissance missions. Additionally, newer versions and upgrades are continuously being developed to further enhance its capabilities. The Tejas is a modern, agile, and lightweight fighter aircraft that can perform a wide range of missions in India's challenging terrain and weather conditions.

That's your opinion and is based on your bias more than anything else. Tejas Mk1s have been participating in international exercises, going up against F-15s, Rafales, Typhoons and even F-35s. That is to hone the warfighter's skills and also to validate tactics and look for areas of improvement for the Tejas Mk1.

The upcoming Tejas Mk1A will be one of the most capable fighters in the IAF with a host of avionics improvements over the Tejas Mk1. And the IAF has committed to 126 Tejas Mk1/Mk1A not for vanity but for their utility.

If rumours are to be believed, there are more Tejas Mk1As in the offing with HAL having increased it's production capacity to 24 with the setting up of the third assembly line for the Tejas at HAL Nashik.

Tejas is superior to other fighter jets in the IAF due to its advanced technology such as composite material, fly-by-wire flight control system, advanced avionics, and electronic warfare capabilities. It is also capable of performing multiple roles such as air superiority, ground attack, and reconnaissance. Additionally, it has a better operational and maintenance cost as compared to other fighter jets.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

The MiG-21 was the backbone of the Indian Air Force (IAF) for several decades. The IAF initially ordered a small number of MiG-21s, but as the fleet proved to be reliable and capable, the IAF kept increasing the number of MiG-21s in its fleet by ordering them in a staggered manner, one after another. Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) played a crucial role in manufacturing these aircraft for the IAF. In fact, HAL manufactured a total of 900 MiG-21s for the IAF, making it one of the largest production runs of any fighter aircraft in history.

The Tejas MK1, which is an indigenous fighter aircraft developed by HAL, is expected to follow a similar trajectory. The IAF initially ordered 40 Tejas MK1s, but has since placed orders for 83 more, and is expected to order even more in the future. This is a testament to the capabilities of the Tejas MK1 and the confidence that the IAF has in the aircraft.

Overall, the fact that HAL manufactured 900 MiG-21s for the IAF highlights the importance of indigenous aircraft production for India's defense needs. The Tejas MK1 is a prime example of this, and is expected to play a crucial role in securing India's air superiority in the years to come.

 

[MirageBlue]

Tejas Mk1s parked next to F-15Es of the USAF at AFS Kalaikunda, for Exercise Cope India 2023

Image credit- Livefist

 

[MirageBlue]

Another great shot from Ex Cope India 2023

Jaguar DARIN 2, Rafale, Tejas Mk1 and Rockwell B1B

B1B over Indian skies

 

[MirageBlue]

Tejas Mk1 FOC from No.18 'Flying Bullets' squadron

Tejas trainer KHT-2010

Pics credit- Shrey Chopra

 

[MirageBlue]

First Tejas Mk1A will likely be ready earlier than the original target date of February 2024, thanks to HAL targeting to deliver more than 16 Tejas Mk1A per year from 2025 onwards by using the newly established Tejas assembly line at HAL Nashik.

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