Hajj Stampede, 700+ pilgrims died.

[Saif al-Arab]

Dont act like slaves of sheikhs.
I am using the word sheikhs as calling them arab will be indigestible for many others like you.

This is criminal negligence by saudi authorities.

1000 pilgrims have died, is there any one who can dare to ask the saudi authorities for the lack of security and safety arrangements.
Blaming the pilgrims is an old tatic used by saudi authorities to under carpet their negligences.

Congratulations with writing an extremely detailed report about the tragical stampade after conducting a thorough investigation at the scene of the tragedy. You were even so quick to write your report (as seen earlier in this thread) that you already knew what had happened, who did what, who is to blame long before the casualties began to rise.

You are truly an oracle.

You still don't understand that "Sheiks" (yes, they are as Arab as any other Arab regardless of status) are not part of what happens on the ground but the 1000's of volunteers, security and individuals who make Hajj (on such a large scale) a possibility.

But let's just say that the "Sheikhs" did this deliberately. As well as the freak crane collapse. You happy now? Or do you need a candy?

@Slav Defence @Jango

Time to deal with the Farsi trolls and their nonsense.

 

[I M Sikander]

And this time again, saudia authorities are putting the blame on many of the affectees like them.

107 died in crane incident, not a single person of saudi hajj operation was held responsible.

Now more than 1000 died, be sure same will be repaeted by saudi authorities.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Saudis are killing more Muslims than Israelis .

The retarded Saud family should stick to their belly dance and leave Haj issues to sane people to avoid such incidents .

F-ing retards . 1000 innocent people killed ? a path for pilgrims was closed by the police and caused all this mess .

90 Iranians were killed because of idiocy and incompetency of saudi officials . shame on these people . focusing on massacre of yemeni people has cause all this mess . look at this crap !! before this crane and now this shitt ?

this is unacceptable . OIC should have immediate meeting over this mess .

mother f-ing bastards .

@Serpentine @Daneshmand @kollang @SOHEIL

oh shut the F up for lords sake . 1000 people are killed because of saudi bastard officials being so pre-occupied in yemen and before this was the falling of the crane which led to scored of innocent people killed .

WTF did they close the ally ? are you people F-ing insane ? are you retards ?

90 Iranians were also among the killed . are you F-ing kidding me ?

yet you're so arrogant and idiot that you come here insulting the ones who question the authorities of your state

Farsi nonsense in full display.

@WebMaster @Horus @Slav Defence @Jango @Manticore @Emmie @waz @Chak Bamu @jaibi @T-Faz etc.

 

[I M Sikander]

Congratulations with writing an extremely detailed report about the tragical stampade after conducting a thorough investigation at the scene of the tragedy. You were even so quick to write your report (as seen earlier in this thread) that you already knew what had happened, who did what, who is to blame long before the casualties began to rise.

You are truly an oracle.

You still don't understand that "Sheiks" (yes, they are as Arab as any other Arab regardless of status) are not part of what happens on the ground but the 1000's of volunteers, security and individuals who make Hajj (on such a large scale) a possibility.

But let's just say that the "Sheikhs" did this deliberately. As well as the freak crane collapse. You happy now? Or do you need a candy?

@Slav Defence @Jango

Time to deal with the Farsi trolls and their nonsense.

And congrats to you for conducting JIT on todays incident and instantaneously concluding the fact that it is acatually the poor pilgrims who killed themselves.

 

[Slav Defence]

Gentlemen,
Have some shame,we have lost thousands of lives and instead of paying condolences to martyrs,some amongst us are acting like animals and have began their trolling.Instead of hijacking this thread with hateful anti arab or anti iran posts,or nonsense claims to taking over hijaz...show some real muslim spirit and discuss your concerns with civility.

regards

 

[Serpentine]

Congratulations with writing an extremely detailed report about the tragical stampade after conducting a thorough investigation at the scene of the tragedy. You were even so quick to write your report (as seen earlier in this thread) that you already knew what had happened, who did what, who is to blame long before the casualties began to rise.

You are truly an oracle.

You still don't understand that "Sheiks" (yes, they are as Arab as any other Arab regardless of status) are not part of what happens on the ground but the 1000's of volunteers, security and individuals who make Hajj (on such a large scale) a possibility.

But let's just say that the "Sheikhs" did this deliberately. As well as the freak crane collapse. You happy now? Or do you need a candy?

@Slav Defence @Jango

Time to deal with the Farsi trolls and their nonsense.

Stop acting like a drama queen. Whether it's their fault or not, Al Saud are not holy, far from it and they can be criticized or blamed openly. This is not a protester rally in Saudi Arabia in which you are trying to silence opposing voices.

Those who were killed could be families of any of us here, or families of any forum members. Instead of white washing Saudi official actions and attacking other members, try to understand scale of this incident.

I, like many others have families or relatives in there, so it's natural to be worried and blaming disregard of Hajj officials.

 

[I M Sikander]

Farsi nonsense in full display.

@WebMaster @Horus @Slav Defence @Jango @Manticore @Emmie @waz @Chak Bamu @jaibi @T-Faz etc.

Here comes the arab vs iran maniac in his full swing. Stay on topic sensibly or better keep your mouth shut.

 

[Slav Defence]

Stop acting like a drama queen. Whether it's their fault or not, Al Saud are not holy, far from it and they can be criticized or blamed openly. This is not a protester rally in Saudi Arabia in which you are trying to silence opposing voices.

There is no problem to raise questions my friend,but it should be done in civilized manner.I have edited few posts because they were reflecting extreme hate and disgust.However,I haven't deleted them,because the question was genuine and should be asked anyway.

regards

 

[haman10]

Gentlemen,
Have some shame,we have lost thousands of lives and instead of paying condolences to martyrs,some amongst us are acting like animals and have began their trolling.Instead of hijacking this thread with hateful anti arab or anti iran posts,or nonsense claims to taking over hijaz...show some real muslim spirit and discuss your concerns with civility.

regards

you want civility and not anger over 1000 people's death ?

ok , here is civility : over the past few weeks , about 1500 people where killed inside saudia for the crime of performing hajj .

meanwhile thousands of others were killed in yemen by saudis .

now someone might ask here : WTF ? why should i take this crap ?

is that civil enough bro ? instead of focusing on bombing the SHYTE out of poor hunger-stricken yemenis , isn't it better to prevent these death from happening ?

why did police close that street which caused this massacre ?

 

[Saif al-Arab]

And congrats to you for conducting JIT on todays incident and instantaneously concluding the fact that it is acatually the poor pilgrims who killed themselves.

I have not concluded anything. You are the wrote and extremely detailed 100 page long report in the span of 20 minutes after traveling to Makkah and back home in that same timespan.

Every eye witness account so far, the location where this occurred (Street 204 at Mina) points to that being the case. Even a Haji currently in Makkah confirmed that to likely be the case.

Yesterday a similar number of people (2 million) were gathered in Mina (I posted photos of that in post 65) and nothing happened. No steps were taken to close any routes today. The situation today was just like yesterday.

Stampades do occur and often human mistakes from the pilgrims themselves are involved and not a lack of security. There have been zero stampedes for 9 years in a row now with the same amount of pilgrims (around 2 millions) and nothing ever happened mainly due to the much improved security after the expansion project started in 2007.

 

[I M Sikander]

Gentlemen,
Have some shame,we have lost thousands of lives and instead of paying condolences to martyrs,some amongst us are acting like animals and have began their trolling.Instead of hijacking this thread with hateful anti arab or anti iran posts,or nonsense claims to taking over hijaz...show some real muslim spirit and discuss your concerns with civility.

regards

I dare to question the negligence by saudi authority but some idiots are trying to make it arab vs iran issue.

Ok tell us, who is responsible for back to back incident during hajj. Not a single person has been held responsible by the saudi authorities.

Thats simply unacceptable and shameless.

 

[Slav Defence]

you want civility and not anger over 1000 people's death ?

ok , here is civility : over the past few weeks , about 1500 people where killed inside saudia for the crime of performing hajj .

meanwhile thousands of others were killed in yemen by saudis .

now someone might ask here : WTF ? why should i take this crap ?

is that civil enough bro ? instead of focusing on bombing the SHYTE out of poor hunger-stricken yemenis , isn't it better to prevent these death from happening ?

why did police close that street which caused this massacre ?

You my friend are mixing their political tactics with current incident.What their yemeni killing has to do with recent incident?
I am myself against this yemini ops but it is irrelevant to recent topic. Focus only on what has happened?We have lost lives of so many hajis and correct orientation is to analysis and join the pieces of events to avoid in future.

regards

 

[Slav Defence]

I dare to question the negligence by saudi authority but some idiots are trying to make it arab vs iran issue.

Ok tell us, who is responsible for back to back incident during hajj. Not a single person has been held responsible by the saudi authorities.

Thats simply unacceptable and shameless.

See,there is nothing wrong with your question,but you way of questioning.Your question is correct but you should tone down.

regards

 

[Manticore]

Abusive language will get that member banned
You guys have been warned

 

[killerx]

seeing hate ret of Irani member in this thread is feel sorry for them, have some respect for the dead, no once can live to die with out will of ALLAH, I have seen videos of stamped how it all started, other country have lost their love ones too, we can pray for them ALLAH accepts their HAJ and SHAHADAT.

 

[Serpentine]

There is no problem to raise questions my friend,but it should be done in civilized manner.I have edited few posts because they were reflecting extreme hate and disgust.However,I haven't deleted them,because the question was genuine and should be asked anyway.

regards

Of course bro. Please do what you have to do. Thanks in advance.