Hajj Stampede, 700+ pilgrims died.

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Here what you are talking about....Do you think Allah will accept hajj ....like this...

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153184477096608

@Irfan Baloch

It is halal... Saudi royals are Demi gods.

 

[Madali]

Nigeria has started lashing out,

A Nigerian human rights group blames Saudi Arabia for the hajj deaths - Quartz

“As eyewitnesses of the gory stampede incident, we testify that it was caused by security breakdown on the part of the Saudi authorities,” the director of the Muslims Rights Concern (MURIC), Ishaq Akintola, said in a statement. So far, 54 Nigerians are reported to have died in Mina, the site of the tragedy.

 

[The SiLent crY]

A sane person add a 4 before 700 .

 

[CIS-TRANS]

Its simply time for Iran and other Muslims countries to create a bloc and resolve the issue of Muslim holy cities that are occupied by Saudi monarchs.. otherwise they will simply start banning pilgrims of other countries over their diplomatic issues.

 

[بلندر]

It was planned by KSA ...
just look at some of Iran causalities ...

-- IRGC General Moshaf'feq ( is missing -- some sources are saying that KSA kidnapped him in middle of chaos )
-- IRGC General Fooladgar
-- IRan former ambassador in Lebanon , Mister Rokn Abadi ( he survived some terrorist attack in past years )
-- An High ranked Scientist in Iran Aerospace and Missile Program ....
-- and several more Officials who are missing ...

and now KSA doesn't want to give back bodies to Iran and want to bury then in mass graves ...... why !? to cover everything up ....

we knew what they are , but , doing this in middle of Haj was above our exception ...

Source: Hajj stampede beyond human control, 'destiny is inevitable', says top Saudi cleric | Page 6

 

[The SiLent crY]

It was planned by KSA ...
just look at some of Iran causalities ...

-- IRGC General Moshaf'feq ( is missing -- some sources are saying that KSA kidnapped him in middle of chaos )
-- IRGC General Fooladgar
-- IRan former ambassador in Lebanon , Mister Rokn Abadi ( he survived some terrorist attack in past years )
-- An High ranked Scientist in Iran Aerospace and Missile Program ....
-- and several more Officials who are missing ...

and now KSA doesn't want to give back bodies to Iran and want to bury then in mass graves ...... why !? to cover everything up ....

we knew what they are , but , doing this in middle of Haj was above our exception ...

Source: Hajj stampede beyond human control, 'destiny is inevitable', says top Saudi cleric | Page 6

I don't know what else Saudis should do to us to stop going there ?

Wasn't raping a clear message ?

 

[Bratva]

Hajj stampede death toll climbs to 1,100 - The Express Tribune

 

[ganesh623]

Very sad event.

Mishaps are bound o happen in overly cowded places. And religios places are commonly crowded places. Happens a lot in india as well.
But even then someone must be accountable for the mishap.

 

[A.M.]

So much misinformation. How could this be possible in this day and age where you have access to the Internet and credible sources from around the world.

There was no prince motorcade involved, this wasn't targeted towards a certain nationality and this certainly wasn't caused by one nationality either. And no this didn't occur anywhere near the jamarat area. I have scanned the Internet and below is the best info graphic that I personally have come across.

This explains exactly what happened.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...eeast/mecca-mina-stampede-hajj-maps.html?_r=0

 

[Ceylal]

A sane person add a 4 before 700 .

They are in the thousands, that why the kingdom of subhumans is hurrying to bury them in mass grave..The way that they stack them like sac of potatoes tell us that they have a hart as worm as steel, big as a rattlesnake nut and are cuddly as a porcupine...

 

[monitor]

Our hajis wbo just return inform that when the cause began Nigerian hajis run over the other injured hajis and the security personal were also lookworm saving life of those injured.

 

[Madali]

So much misinformation. How could this be possible in this day and age where you have access to the Internet and credible sources from around the world.

There was no prince motorcade involved, this wasn't targeted towards a certain nationality and this certainly wasn't caused by one nationality either. And no this didn't occur anywhere near the jamarat area. I have scanned the Internet and below is the best info graphic that I personally have come across.

This explains exactly what happened.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/24/world/middleeast/mecca-mina-stampede-hajj-maps.html?_r=0

I agree we need better information and there is so much misinformation. But your link wasn't definite so saying "This explains exactly what happened." is jumping to conclusions. Closing a road contributes to the collision of two different paths, as that fits with the survivor's testimonies.

For example, looking at that collision, it would mean that the pilgrims from Street 223 collided with Street 204. Was this according to plan? Does Street 223 always join Street 204, or are the pilgrims supposed to take a different route? If you zoom on it via google map, street 223 either meets with 204 or King Fahd Road. Logically, to prevent collision, they could go via King Fahd Road. Maybe this was closed off forcing the pilgrims to go to Street 204?

 

[A.M.]

I agree we need better information and there is so much misinformation. But your link wasn't definite so saying "This explains exactly what happened." is jumping to conclusions. Closing a road contributes to the collision of two different paths, as that fits with the survivor's testimonies.

For example, looking at that collision, it would mean that the pilgrims from Street 223 collided with Street 204. Was this according to plan? Does Street 223 always join Street 204, or are the pilgrims supposed to take a different route? If you zoom on it via google map, street 223 either meets with 204 or King Fahd Road. Logically, to prevent collision, they could go via King Fahd Road. Maybe this was closed off forcing the pilgrims to go to Street 204?

It is what happened because i just came back from Hajj.

204 is one of the main routes that is supposed to be opened to allow the Hujjaj to travel from Muzdalifha to Jamarat to finish the stoning. The side streets are all supposed to be blocked off such that the passage can continue unabated via the main roads. Someone screwed up and left one street open (there is a little bit of confusion if the street was 216 or 223) which result in the log jam that caused the stampede.

As far as these conspiracy theories about Saudis targeting the Iranians, if you know anything about Mena Camp or have been there before, you know that the camp is divided out by certain countries such that the pilgrims from one country are usually together. This could be an explanation of why more Iranians died than anyone else as the stampede might have occurred in an Iranian dominated area.

 

[Madali]

It is what happened because i just came back from Hajj.

204 is one of the main routes that is supposed to be opened to allow the Hujjaj to travel from Muzdalifha to Jamarat to finish the stoning. The side streets are all supposed to be blocked off such that the passage can continue unabated via the main roads. Someone screwed up and left one street open (there is a little bit of confusion if the street was 216 or 223) which result in the log jam that caused the stampede.

As far as these conspiracy theories about Saudis targeting the Iranians, if you know anything about Mena Camp or have been there before, you know that the camp is divided out by certain countries such that the pilgrims from one country are usually together. This could be an explanation of why more Iranians died than anyone else as the stampede might have occurred in an Iranian dominated area.

I haven't accepted the conspiracy theories. I never said it was deliberate.

 

[Star Wars]

PressTV-'Hajj tragedy deaths cross 4,000'

The Saudi government confirms the death toll in the recent Hajj tragedy has reached 4,173, media reports say.

Saudi Vice Minister of Health Hamad bin Muhammad Al-Duweila said on Tuesday that he has received a photo showing that 4,173 pilgrims were killed in the tragic incident in Minda, near the holy city of Mecca, according to some reports.

The Saudi Health Ministry asserted that heat exhaustion and suffocation are to blame for the pilgrims’ death, the reports said.