'Hagia Sophia might be converted to a mosque': Erdogan

[Agnihotra]

We are talking about some basic things, that is well known history...

But ok, lets start...

About Ottoman empire backwardness in economy, you should start with Halil Inalcik ,

• The Ottoman Decline and its Effects upon the Reaya, Aspects of the Balkans, Continuity and Change, Contributions to the International Balkan Conference held at UCLA, October 23—28, 1969, ed. H. Birnbaum & S. Vryonis Jr., Mouton, The Hague 1972, 338—354.
  
  About Ottoman brutal conquest
• • Ottoman Methods of Conquest, Studia Islamica 3 (1954) 102—129.
  
  
  

About Ottoman rejection of Renneissance
The Ottoman Empire: The Classical Age 1300-1600 by Halil Inalcik


I put Halil Inalcik, (TURKISH HISTORIAN) just to avoid some "Serbian bias historians" replies.




Ok, friend, give me argument!
I am here.



At least, my country didnt hide Bin Laden, a paradigm of terrorism.

Respect to Serbia

 

[HannibalBarca]

Here is a fact the balkans before the Ottomans came was a shithole.

Only value of the Balkans for the Turks was Constantinople and the springboard to conquer the contitienent.

Balkaners love to act like that the Ottomans made the region backwards. Balkaners themselves have the most backward mentality.

They read "contemporary" people with a "contemporary" biased mindset...instead of reading about "Christians/Jews/Muslims" literature of that time and what THOSE guys actually said about the Muslim world...

But I'm pretty sure...none of them know an author before the 20th century... let alone one before the 14th century and beyond...

 

[bsruzm]

So I think PDF is last place when I can get further education on such topic.

You are cherry-picking.
Today, I posted a link that says "had Bulgarians been really forced by sword and fire to become Muslims for half a millennium, there would have been no Christians left in 1878." The same can be said for Serbia, I guess.

"However, had Bulgarians been really forced by sword and fire to become Muslims for half a millennium, there would have been no Christians left in 1878 from which to build a Bulgarian nation."

Bulgaria’s denial of its Ottoman past and Turkish identity

 

[Nein]

They read "contemporary" people with a "contemporary" biased mindset...instead of reading about "Christians/Jews/Muslims" literature of that time and what THOSE guys actually said about the Muslim world...

But I'm pretty sure...none of them know an author before the 20th century... let alone one before the 14th century and beyond...

Balkans was building space ships and pyramids that fly until Ottoman Conquest.

We Wuz Serbz

 

[HannibalBarca]

Respect to Serbia

How unfortunate... they don't reciprocate that with the Indians...

You are cherry-picking.
Today, I posted a link that says "had Bulgarians been really forced by sword and fire to become Muslims for half a millennium, there would have been no Christians left in 1878." The same can be said for Serbia, I guess.

Shuuuu... Truth is hard to swallow... take it easy...
And it wasn't only in Balkans...even in Andalusia... 700 years of Islam... and Muslims were still not an important majority...
And the surprise in it... is that Christians and Jews... came in masses in those "Muslim lands"... maybe some SM wish they had...who knows...

If only they read about Europe of that time... they wouldn't put their worst enemies in it...

 

[Agnihotra]

How unfortunate... they don't reciprocate that with the Indians...



Shuuuu... Truth is hard to swallow... take it easy...
And it wasn't only in Balkans...even in Andalusia... 700 years of Islam... and Muslims were still not an important majority...
And the surprise in it... is that Christians and Jews... came in masses in those "Muslim lands"... maybe some SM wish they had...who knows...

If only they read about Europe of that time... they wouldn't put their worst enemies in it...

Dont worry. I have been to Serbia and Croatia on business tour, I know what they think about us.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

When the Balkans’ races find time away from insulting and killing each other to jointly blame Turks for all their evils.

Also, I think Gypsies also were responsible for all the problems in the Balkans.... lol

This is why Christian Croat and Christian Serb cannot even sit at the same table.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Dont worry. I have been to Serbia and Croatia on business tour, I know what they think about us.

Yeah... As long as you stay far from their lands/Society/Women it's all good... Otherwise...it's another subject...

 

[bsruzm]

How unfortunate... they don't reciprocate that with the Indians...



Shuuuu... Truth is hard to swallow... take it easy...
And it wasn't only in Balkans...even in Andalusia... 700 years of Islam... and Muslims were still not an important majority...
And the surprise in it... is that Christians and Jews... came in masses in those "Muslim lands"... maybe some SM wish they had...who knows...

If only they read about Europe of that time... they wouldn't put their worst enemies in it...

Tolerance wasn't limited to Ottoman Empire, their predecessor had the same tradition:

"The Armenians of Byzantium have welcomed the Seljuk conquest with lengthy celebrations in the streets and thanksgiving to God for having rescued them from long years of Byzantine oppression. Seljuk Turks gave protection to the Armenian Church, which the Byzantines had been trying to destroy. They abolished the oppressive taxes which the Byzantines had imposed on the Armenian Churches, monasteries and priests, and in fact exempted such religious institutions from all taxes. The Armenian community was left free to conduct its internal affairs in its own way, including religious activities and education, and there never was any time at which Armenians or other non-Muslims were compelled to convert to Islam. The Armenian spiritual leaders in fact went to the Seljuk Sultan Melikshah to thank him for his protection." Stephanos Taronetsi ASOGHIK,Armenian historian who recorded his impressions on the arrival of Seljuk Turks to Anatolia around 1071.

 

[HannibalBarca]

When the Balkans’ races find time away from insulting and killing each other to jointly blame Turks for all their evils.

Also, I think Gypsies also were responsible for all the problems in the Balkans.... lol

This is why Christian Croat and Christian Serb cannot even sit at the same table.

They killed Dozens and Dozens and Dozens of time more by infighting among themselves than any "Foreign" invasion since ever...

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Yeah... As long as you stay far from their lands/Society/Women it's all good... Otherwise...it's another subject...

 

[denel]

Hagia Sophia might be converted to a mosque, Erdoğan says

24.03.2019

President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on Sunday voiced the possibility of converting the Hagia Sophia, which has been used as a museum since 1935 and is considered one of the world's wonders, back into a mosque.

"This is not unlikely. We might even change its name to Ayasofya Mosque," Erdoğan said during a live interview with Turkish broadcaster TGRT.

"This is not a strange proposal," he said regarding the calls for converting the ancient building to a mosque that it served as for hundreds of years.

"As you know, the mosque was converted to a museum in 1935, as a reflection of CHP mentality. We may as well take a step and change that," he concluded, pointing to the harshly secularist policies of the 1930's Republican People's Party (CHP), which is the main opposition today.

The Hagia Sophia was built in the 6th century during the Christian Byzantine Empire and served as the seat of the Greek Orthodox Church. It was converted into an imperial mosque with the Ottoman conquest of Istanbul in 1453. The structure was converted into a museum during the strictly secular single-party rule in 1935, but there have been discussions around converting it back to a mosque, with public demands to restore it as a place of worship gaining traction on social media.

In 2015, a cleric recited the Quran inside the building, a UNESCO World Heritage site, for the first time in 85 years. The following year, Turkey's religious authority began hosting and broadcasting religious readings during the holy month of Ramadan and the call to prayer was recited inside on the anniversary of the first revelation of the Quran to the Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him).

https://www.dailysabah.com/politics...a-might-be-converted-to-a-mosque-erdogan-says

he is crazy fool. tolerance.. he does not learn from the history of ottomans which had every religion as part of it.

 

[Nevsky]

Here is a fact the balkans before the Ottomans came was a shithole.

Only value of the Balkans for the Turks was Constantinople and the springboard to conquer the contitienent.

Balkaners love to act like that the Ottomans made the region backwards. Balkaners themselves have the most backward mentality.

No disrespect to any Balkan Turks you are the exception.

"Balkan Turks", how cute is that.For example the cyrillic script was developed in the First Bulgarian Empire, 250 million ppl use it today, even some of the Stalin created nations in Central Asia are using it. So its quite funny if you think about it, a small country from the Balkans have more influence on the "turkic nations" than Turkey herself.

The Cyrillic script was created in the First Bulgarian Empire.[23] Its first variant, the Early Cyrillic alphabet, was created at the Preslav Literary School. It is derived from the Greek uncial script letters, augmented by ligatures and consonants from the older Glagolitic alphabet for sounds not found in Greek.

 

[HannibalBarca]

"Balkan Turks", how cute is that.For example the cyrillic script was developed in the First Bulgarian Empire, 250 million ppl use it today, even some of the Stalin created nations in Central Asia are using it. So its quite funny if you think about it, a small country from the Balkans have more influence on the "turkic nations" than Turkey herself.

Bolghars were Turkic semi-nomadic tribes...

 

[Timur]

we have to talk about one reallity guys turning it into a mosqe has many benefits.. then it is open for free without money you can enter it.. for now its a shame to pay money to enter it.. thats why I never entered it.. I would not support such actings with paying money for it..

and to enter it it does not matter if you are christian or muslim.. than it is open for everyone as I said..

and like other big mosques in turkey or istanbul no one comes to you and prohibits you from entering or praying..

there is just one rule for everyone dress properly and then come in..

so ppl having issues with it as a mosque have other issues why should somebody be happy that it is a museum and you have to pay entering it.. a museum is worse its actually removing a place of worship and transforming it to a place of money income