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Whether its 2000 or 3000 does it matter ?
So now you wish to compare India to Rwanda, Darfur and Bosnia. Well thats your perogrative !
Haven't some localities in Gujarat become no go areas for Muslims and vice versa ?
Dear Vish,
From all accounts published in the media it was a genocide in certain neighborhoods.
However I understand that the Indian Courts have gone out of the way to give justice to the people which is a very good thing. I am happy that Indians and Indian Govt. have realised that the more they intergrate with the West the more they will be accountable for their human rights records and such incidents will probably not happen in future.
Regards
Yes, you're correct that Muslims in certain neighborhoods were wiped out.
But Hindus in certain areas were also killed-off entirely.
Does this imply that Gujrat riots were both a anti-Muslim and anti-Hindu genocide?
I'm not contesting that extent of barbarity in Gujrat at that time; however, these riots cannot be termed as genocide just because some sections of the state machinary were being passive for certain periods of time.
There were several instances where the police and the bureaucracy did do their jobs.
A media agency is bound to use exaggerated headlines to capture attention.
For a more authentic source, please consult the report of the National Human Rights Council:
Report on the visit of NHRC Team headed by Chairperson, NHRC to Ahmedabad, Vadodra and Godhra
A media agency is bound to use exaggerated headlines to capture attention.
For a more authentic source, please consult the report of the National Human Rights Council:
Report on the visit of NHRC Team headed by Chairperson, NHRC to Ahmedabad, Vadodra and Godhra
Please read from the same report the below
While the riots in the past involved both the communities in group clashes resulting even from minor incidents, the incidents following the Godhra incident are characterised by assaults by huge Hindu mobs on the members of the minority community. The size of the marauding crowds involved in the major incidents was found to be between five to fifteen thousand and the scale of violence and brutality of methods of killing and looting indicated long planning and indoctrination.
Over 100 mosques and dargahs were desecrated and damaged in Ahmedabad and about 500 in other parts of Gujarat. (Two members of the team saw the site of Dargah of Sufi poet Wali Gujarati, revered by both the communities, near the underground bridge at Shahibag, which had been razed to the ground.) Allegedly, the Govt., instead of protecting the site for reconstruction of the Dargah, has got the old historic Dargah ground flattened and now one sees an asphalt road with vehicles moving over it.
You just helped me to prove that its was planned genocide.
Regards
I think you are sensitive to the word genocide as you feel it shows India in poor light and compares it to Darfur however to us in Europe Gujarat will always be a genocide carried out largely by fanatics on both sides. Riots to us means when people go bersek after a foot ball match.
Regards
As I said a genocide is a genocide whether it was carried out by the Muslims in burning a train or Hindus killing all muslims in their locality and where the Govt. turned a blind eye and thats the only reason why I cannot accept this to be a riot. If the Govt. had done its duty i would have agreed with you that it was a riot. By the way its not only some sections of the Govt. which did not do their duty but the whole Govt. actively colluded in preventing the Police from do its duty.
Regards
Oh and please don't flaunt your peaceful Europe here. The history of 20th century Europe is pockmarked with hideous Genocides (yes!proper, full fledged Genocide) across your proud continent.