Growing Lashkar e Jhangvi (LJ) influence in Pakistan

[Secur]

You are trying to link two historical events and trying to find a link military had in it. Its not as simple as it is.

As for those Facebook links, its PEMRa responsibility to block those links. But PEMRA wont do it. Its not Axact. This case of sectarianism is like the case of Ayyan Ali - its going nowhere because its in political interest to keep in limbo. To my point again, lack of political will.

Military did not bend the will of politicians. Its politicians who give military political space to manoeuvre. If politicians show leadership, military will recede. Just like in Turkey.

Turkey at the end of 2002 was like Pakistan. Its exports barely $25 billion. Now $130 billion. Just to give you an idea what political leadership can do if its 'neeyat' is right. but if its dishonest it will give you what Sharif Zardari and Altaf have in the last 3 decades.

By the way dont forget. Nawaz signed a deal with Musharraf to get lost, Benazir did a deal with Musharraf to come back and Altaf was in permanent alliance with Musharraf. So dont tell me that politicians will was bent. Politicians had their share in bringing military to power. If military steps in now, not a tear will be shed for Nawaz.

There is secular terrorism in Pakistan and is dangerous in equalt degree to religious terrorism. The secular terrorist in Pakistan is MQM.

In Pakistan political leadership, is all thieves or murderers.

It didn't? I am linking two historical events because there's a link. The military top brass imported a barbaric interpretation of religion, promoted it amongst the Pakistanis to create new "cannon fodder" to die on the other side of the Durand Line, supported extremism and radicalization inside the country to pave the opinion for supporting insurgency inside Afghanistan and imported "Mujahids" from around the world (known today as Uzbeks, Tajiks, Chechens, Arabs or simple foreign terrorists killed in air-strikes). A blunder on its known, as it was. The military repeated it again soon after the Mujaheddin stopped to work and spiraled out of control after the Soviet withdrawal and couldn't be stabilized even after the Peshawar accords. Explain me the "unsimple" logic and reason for repeating a blunder and taking the entire country to this state, where the long-term damage from extremism will take decades to heal when the symptom of the problem terrorism is effectively taken care of!

Those face-books are a very small part of the problem, its for the teeny tinny educated audience. Majority of the receptive audience doesn't need them, for them the pamphlets and posters distributed after prayers and actual sermons are more than enough! Add to this, the ignorance and lack of education prevalent in the country, its a recipe for disaster.

Yes, 3 successful coup d etats (and four failed) and almost thirty one years of military rule later, you want to me believe that the army doesn't bend the will of the politicians. That is only the time, in which the military itself became the politician, forget the ISI political cell and late night calls and envoys from GHQ to Islamabad. Not everything is a fault of the politicians, direct some (and major) blame to the other side too! Yes, the "niyat" of Islamabad isn't right, remember there are always the "sinful self" Rawalpindi ready to exploit it in seconds flat.

 

[Shamain]

Yes and I remember mentioning the ten seats in the recent district Govt election in KPK. Rigging happened there too somehow?

Then ididnt read that post and How lb elections and winning some district seats equates with general elections? And yes there will be supporters of mqm in kpk and in other provinces too but not in a large number. And u do know lb elections are quite a diff from GE .

Acha here this for u

Altaf Hussain Response on Local body election in KPK

But i know ur motto is to never give up so lemme announce to u, aap ki mqm mughale azam hai ,badshah hai mujhay maaf kar dain i cant waste my energies any further arguing with u.