Greek Rafale F3 Vs Turkish S400

[BON PLAN]

TURKEY will deploy S-400 to protect its strategic Infrastructure only. not on front lines
Greece will not waste its time in taking it out.Just bypass it and for that purpose Scalp will prove handy as we saw in Russia Ukraine war.
Storm shadows were able to hit S-400 protected Russian military HQ.
Rafael with Scalp is a significant offensive capability boost for Greece.
Turkish Military's Rear end, its logistic hubs will always be at risk of being targeted and that too from any direction.
Their supply will not be an issue if Greece can play its christianity card with Europe correctly in its war with Turkey otherwise given the size of Turkish Defence Industry,they will never be able to win the war.At best it will be a stalemate.

Nothing to add.
Congrats.

Turkish F-16 OZGUR2 upgrade for $2 billion

LOL.
So why Ergodan cried to uncle Sam to have some F16 V kits ?

 

[Foinikas]

Greece will not waste its time in taking it out.Just bypass it and for that purpose Scalp will prove handy as we saw in Russia Ukraine war.
Storm shadows were able to hit S-400 protected Russian military HQ.

That's an interesting scenario. It's true that the use of SCALP in Ukraine was a "school" for all users of the SCALP/Storm Shadow.

Their supply will not be an issue if Greece can play its christianity card with Europe correctly in its war with Turkey

The Christianity card has stopped being used for even more than 100 years. We have an alliance with France though and they might be willing to provide us with their own SCALP with the full 500km range.

 

[kingQamaR]

TURKEY will deploy S-400 to protect its strategic Infrastructure only. not on front lines
Greece will not waste its time in taking it out.Just bypass it and for that purpose Scalp will prove handy as we saw in Russia Ukraine war.
Storm shadows were able to hit S-400 protected Russian military HQ.
Rafael with Scalp is a significant offensive capability boost for Greece.
Turkish Military's Rear end, its logistic hubs will always be at risk of being targeted and that too from any direction.
Their supply will not be an issue if Greece can play its christianity card with Europe correctly in its war with Turkey otherwise given the size of Turkish Defence Industry,they will never be able to win the war.At best it will be a stalemate.

Problem with s300 and s400 for attackers is because they are mobile and they are just a piece of large air defense group. To get to s300 and s400 you fist must pass trough many many more turkeys systems that can shoot you down. So yes, greeks didn't train against all components in which s300 function.

Regarding S300 deployments was off the cuff remark to people thinking be easy to locate and destroy them

 

[MMM-E]

TURKEY will deploy S-400 to protect its strategic Infrastructure only. not on front lines
Greece will not waste its time in taking it out.Just bypass it and for that purpose Scalp will prove handy as we saw in Russia Ukraine war.
Storm shadows were able to hit S-400 protected Russian military HQ.
Rafael with Scalp is a significant offensive capability boost for Greece.
Turkish Military's Rear end, its logistic hubs will always be at risk of being targeted and that too from any direction.
Their supply will not be an issue if Greece can play its christianity card with Europe correctly in its war with Turkey otherwise given the size of Turkish Defence Industry,they will never be able to win the war.At best it will be a stalemate.

S400 is not for Cruise Missiles .. S400 and SIPER AD Systems for A2/AD capability

and Do you think Turkiye has only S400 ?


SCALP is not hypersonic or supersonic
Turkiye has its own Air Defense Systems easly to intercept low speed SCALP Cruise Missile

-- KORKUT 35 mm SPAAG with air burst munition
-- SUNGUR Air Defense System
-- HISAR-A Air Defense System
-- HISAR-O Air Defense Systems
-- GOKDEMIR Air Defense System
-- GURZ hybrid Air Defense System


KORKUT 35 mm SPAAG with air burst munition to intercept SCALP Cruise Missile

SUNGUR Air Defense System

HISAR-A Air Defense System to intercept SCALP Cruise Missile

HISAR-O Air Defense System to intercept SCALP Cruise Missile

GOKDEMIR Air Defense System to intercept SCALP Cruise Missile

And soon GURZ hybrid Air Defense System to intercept SCALP Cruise Missile

-- 4 x AESA Radar for 360° radar coverage
-- 1 x 35 mm Gun
-- 4 x SUNGUR Missiles
-- 4 x BOZDOGAN Missiles

Lots of lessons from the Ukraine War ....
Turkiye has developed AD Systems to intercept Cruise Missiles and Kamikaze Drones


btw Greece has only SCALP Cruise Missile which can not reach to all military targets in Turkiye

but Turkish Missiles to hit everything in Greece and Greek Islands
TRLG-122 , TRLG-230 and TRG-300 guided MLRS
YILDIRIM , BORA , TAYFUN , CENK Ballistic Missiles
SOM , CAKIR , KUZGUN-TJ , KARA-ATMACA and GEZGIN Cruise Missiles
TOLUN-IIR , KUZGUN-SS and KGK-LR long range guided munitions
ALPAgUT , AZAB , DELI , SIMSEK , SUPER SIMSEK and KARgI Kamikaze Drones


if tiny Greece fire 100 missiles , then Turkiye can fire 1.000 missiles

 

[MMM-E]

LOL.
So why Ergodan cried to uncle Sam to have some F16 V kits ?

ERDOGAN showed middle finger to uncle SAM

on 13 july 2023
TAI and ASELSAN signed contracts for $2 billion to modernize F-16 block30/40/50 Figter Jets

Turkiye itself will modernize F-16 fleet

 

[MeFishToo]

S400 is not for Cruise Missiles .. S400 and SIPER AD Systems for A2/AD capability

and Do you think Turkiye has only S400 ?


SCALP is not hypersonic or supersonic
Turkiye has its own Air Defense Systems easly to intercept low speed SCALP Cruise Missile

-- KORKUT 35 mm SPAAG with air burst munition
-- SUNGUR Air Defense System
-- HISAR-A Air Defense System
-- HISAR-O Air Defense Systems
-- GOKDEMIR Air Defense System
-- GURZ hybrid Air Defense System


KORKUT 35 mm SPAAG with air burst munition to intercept SCALP Cruise Missile

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SUNGUR Air Defense System
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HISAR-A Air Defense System to intercept SCALP Cruise Missile
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HISAR-O Air Defense System to intercept SCALP Cruise Missile

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GOKDEMIR Air Defense System to intercept SCALP Cruise Missile
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And soon GURZ hybrid Air Defense System to intercept SCALP Cruise Missile

-- 4 x AESA Radar for 360° radar coverage
-- 1 x 35 mm Gun
-- 4 x SUNGUR Missiles
-- 4 x BOZDOGAN Missiles

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Lots of lessons from the Ukraine War ....
Turkiye has developed AD Systems to intercept Cruise Missiles and Kamikaze Drones


btw Greece has only SCALP Cruise Missile which can not reach to all military targets in Turkiye

but Turkish Missiles to hit everything in Greece and Greek Islands
TRLG-122 , TRLG-230 and TRG-300 guided MLRS
YILDIRIM , BORA , TAYFUN , CENK Ballistic Missiles
SOM , CAKIR , KUZGUN-TJ , KARA-ATMACA and GEZGIN Cruise Missiles
TOLUN-IIR , KUZGUN-SS and KGK-LR long range guided munitions
ALPAgUT , AZAB , DELI , SIMSEK , SUPER SIMSEK and KARgI Kamikaze Drones


if tiny Greece fire 100 missiles , then Turkiye can fire 1.000 missiles

Just wondering - is the turkish army equiped with these systems, or is it being developed for potential foreign investors?

 

[Foinikas]

if tiny Greece fire 100 missiles , then Turkiye can fire 1.000 missiles

Turkiye so strong

You see now @Muhammad Saftain Anjum it's pointless trying to discuss.

No matter what you say,the salesman will repost the exact same photos and long list of Turkish products and avoids to make any real debate. It's really pointless.

 

[Trisolaran]

If the Russia-Ukraine war proves anything it is that ballistic-cruise-hypersonic missiles + drones will shape the future wars, jets and air defense systems are now secondary

 

[MMM-E]

Turkiye so strong

You see now @Muhammad Saftain Anjum it's pointless trying to discuss.

No matter what you say,the salesman will repost the exact same photos and long list of Turkish products and avoids to make any real debate. It's really pointless.

Again silly post from waiter Foinikas

first learn about Turkish defense industry then come to discuss
I just showing the reality ......... Turkiye doesnt have only S400

@Muhammad Saftain Anjum is not talking about Turkish Air Defense Systems which can intercept SCALP Missile

-- KORKUT 35 mm SPAAG with air burst munition
-- SUNGUR Air Defense System
-- HISAR-A Air Defense System
-- HISAR-O Air Defense Systems
-- GOKDEMIR Air Defense System
-- GURZ hybrid Air Defense System

-- S400 and SIPER AD Systems for A2/AD capability against Fighter Jets


be fair and don't flaunt tiny Greece with wet dreams
and stop trying to misrepresent Turkiye's formidable military power and national defense industry

 

[MMM-E]

Just wondering - is the turkish army equiped with these systems, or is it being developed for potential foreign investors?

Turkish Armed Forces equipped with these Systems

-- KORKUT 35 mm SPAAG with air burst munition in service
-- SUNGUR Air Defense System in service
-- HISAR-A Air Defense System in service
-- HISAR-O Air Defense System in service
-- SIPER high altitude Air Defense System enter service in 2023


-- GOKDEMIR Air Defense System has been developed by TUBITAK-SAGE via GOKDOGAN air to air Missile
( similar concept to American NASAMS )

-- and ASELSAN develops GURZ hybrid Air Defense System to intercept Cruise Missiles and Kamikaze Drones
Lots of lessons from the Ukraine War ....

 

[Kamil_baku]

Spectra : from a non french source my dear @MMM-E

Program Dossier: Future Combat Air System | Aviation Week Network

The Future Combat Air System (FCAS) is a prospective system of systems planned to enter service in 2040 to meet the air dominance needs of France, Germany and Spain.

aviationweek.com

France’s Thales was the first European manufacturer to operationalize AESAs in fighter aircraft with the Rafale’s RBE2 in 2012. The RBE2 consists of approximately 1,000 TRMs. With Leonardo involved in the rival Tempest program, Thales arguably has the most robust TACAIR electronic warfare experience among FCAS primes. Thales Spectra ESM will be extensively overhauled as part of the €2 billion ($2.3 billion) Rafale F4 upgrade. The type already employs a number of advanced EW techniques such as active cancelation, phase interferometer-based geolocation, etc.

Good siesta.

how fast you forgot when Turkey did EW attack on your ship near Libya and Your soldiers posted it in panic) France is a joke now as you loose whole Africa every day

 

[BON PLAN]

Problem with s300 and s400 for attackers is because they are mobile and they are just a piece of large air defense group. To get to s300 and s400 you fist must pass trough many many more turkeys systems that can shoot you down. So yes, greeks didn't train against all components in which s300 function.

Regarding S300 deployments was off the cuff remark to people thinking be easy to locate and destroy them

Just somes facts: russian fighters destriyed some ukrainian S300, and at least one russian S400 was destroyed these last week.
=> It's possible.

ERDOGAN showed middle finger to uncle SAM

on 13 july 2023
TAI and ASELSAN signed contracts for $2 billion to modernize F-16 block30/40/50 Figter Jets

Turkiye itself will modernize F-16 fleet

Good luck.

how fast you forgot when Turkey did EW attack on your ship near Libya

Be sure we never forgot !
Turkey use against a french ship a manner used only by russians. To protect a turkish ship carrying embargoed goods... nice rotten friend that Turkey is becoming.
And if I remember well, there was several turkish frigates against a single 2nd rank french one. So classical.... Try another time with our carrier or a SSN in the area please.

And you forgot how a US top general shout all the turkish delegation the next NATO meeting....

 

[BON PLAN]

you loose whole Africa every day

What's strange? We have nothing more to do there.
I just expect our government now to halt all the african migrants. We are tired of all these engineers, astronauts and lawyers just able to rape and stole.

 

[MMM-E]

And if I remember well, there was several turkish frigates against a single 2nd rank french one. So classical.... Try another time with our carrier or a SSN in the area please.

That doesnt matter
Your France is not super power USA or Russia

Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean = Turkiye's playzone
Our great A2/AD capability is enough to protect Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean

3 years ago , Greece and France tried to harass our ORUCREIS research Ship
Turkish Navy blocked Greek Frigate ... and French Frigate escaped from Turkish EEZ
And Turkish Air Force intercepted 6 Greek F-16 block52+ in the same day

And you forgot how a US top general shout all the turkish delegation the next NATO meeting....

only in your dreams
USA can shout only pawn countries like Greece

Turkiye doesnt care about USA or anyone
Nobody can stop a Ship without permission of flag country

And Operation IRINI was not a NATO Mission

 

[BON PLAN]

Operation IRINI was not a NATO Mission

No, just a UN ones !
And Uncle Sam was not satisfied to see a NATO country threaten another one.

Uncle Sam understood some years ago that you are no more trustable, but better in NATO than outside. It is why the nuc in Incirlik air base will be removed and store in UK. You are far too unstable, and with the next bankrupt it will be chaos in Turkey.