Greek Army wants to conquer Istanbul?

[Neptune]

Why dont you go and educate yourself on the quality and quantity on both sides and come up with an informed decision not constrained by ideology.

Frankly i could not care less if you appreciate anything from me or not. it still does not make you correct. Akin to ostrich sticking it's head in the sand thinking noone sees him.

Now, when you come back with some concrete numbers, feel free to reply.

MBT's ? The total number of tanks that Greece have is 1,244 while we have 4,460 tanks and half of them are Leopard or Sabra A3. And how many countries in the world has more than 308 F-16's. Please next time come with your facts and share them with us how Greece is better than us in the categories you mentioned

 

[muslim282]

To fight wars you need money.
Greece has none.
It would take at least 50 years to get out of it,s present financial meltdown.

If however the far right get into power. Well that would send greece back 100 years.
Nato and other countries won,t tolerate such a goverment. The loans, help, aid would dry up quicker than a puddle in the desert.

 

[Audio]

Well it's the same perspective which made a claim couple years back that Yanks will be out of Afghanistan with tail between their legs... go run couple simulations, with variables you can't yet comprehend... BUBye!

the existence of bases post 2014 directly negates your claim based on experience and "simulations".
By any chance the simulation was C&C Generals with you playing GLA and CPU on easy played USA?

 

[Hyperion]

Aptal kadin dir, birak ona!

MBT's ? The total number of tanks that Greece have is 1,244 while we have 4,460 tanks and half of them are Leopard or Sabra A3. And how many countries in the world has more than 308 F-16's. Please next time come with your facts and share them with us how Greece is better than us in the categories you mentioned

 

[45'22']

Aptal kadin dir, birak ona!

Ona aptal diyorsun

 

[Audio]

MBT's ? The total number of tanks that Greece have is 1,244 while we have 4,460 tanks and half of them are Leopard or Sabra A3. And how many countries in the world has more than 308 F-16's. Please next time come with your facts and share them with us how Greece is better than us in the categories you mentioned

Quality never matters right? Thought so, must be a staple of those simulations that were claimed to have been done.

~350 of those Greek tanks are superior to anything Turkey has, with 170 out of that number that are vastly superior.

As for AF parity, 200+ modern fighter jets, with additional ~100 of third gen. (F-4)

So, like i said in my original post, Turkey would be hard pressed to invade Greece, as would Greece be hard pressed to capture Istanbul.

But of course, i did not do C&C Generals skirmish match so im no expert.

Aptal kadin dir, birak ona!

Stupid is a woman, Leave her!

When out of arguments you resort to namecalling in a language not everyone understands. Classy! And telling of your attitude toward the weaker sex.

Why am i not surprised? Expert PC gamer!

 

[Neptune]

Quality never matters right? Thought so, must be a staple of those simulations that were claimed to have been done.

~350 of those Greek tanks are superior to anything Turkey has, with 170 out of that number that are vastly superior.





When out of arguments you resort to namecalling in a language not everyone understands. Classy! And telling of your attitude toward the weaker sex.

Why am i not surprised?

haha. I said half of these are advanced. And pls google how many advanced tanks does greece have? Let's say you are right. But go and check the Turkish-Greek history. We won everytime. Ohh. sorry we're not better than them right. Why? It doesn't matter that @Hyperion served in turkish military or I in navy. Please non-experts leave this threat.

 

[Audio]

haha. I said half of these are advanced. And pls google how many advanced tanks does greece have? Let's say you are right. But go and check the Turkish-Greek history. We won everytime. Ohh. sorry we're not better than them right. Why? It doesn't matter that @Hyperion served in turkish military or I in navy. Please non-experts leave this threat.

Not even half are advanced.

340 Leo 2's and 170 Sabra's is the only thing advanced, with Sabra arguably less then Leo 2.
I dont know the math you "experts" use but that is not half of 4400+.

Never have i met a Turk that was level headed when it came to discussions about military, nationalism so excuse me if i take whatever you claim with a bucket load of salt. Good people otherwise, was on vacation there a couple of years ago, but whenever i talk on the net with some about above mentioned issues all common sense goes out the window.

And history is no guarantee of the future. If it was, nothing in the world would change, but it constantly does. About the hissy fit of not being better-i only said that invasion would be next to impossible for each party. Not better, not worse.

 

[Saleem]

Liberate? They were always Greek....back when Turks lived in tents near China.

and the "greeks" ran around in piece of cloth wrung around their loins?

 

[Neptune]

Quality never matters right? Thought so, must be a staple of those simulations that were claimed to have been done.

~350 of those Greek tanks are superior to anything Turkey has, with 170 out of that number that are vastly superior.

As for AF parity, 200+ modern fighter jets, with additional ~100 of third gen. (F-4)

So, like i said in my original post, Turkey would be hard pressed to invade Greece, as would Greece be hard pressed to capture Istanbul.

But of course, i did not do C&C Generals skirmish match so im no expert.





When out of arguments you resort to namecalling in a language not everyone understands. Classy! And telling of your attitude toward the weaker sex.

Why am i not surprised? Expert PC gamer!

with all respects sir you're wrong, I was a Naval JROTC candidate not a pc game expert like u. And I remember that Greeks visited us several times. We always talked about our strenghts.

1- yes we have 100+ F-4's with night bombing capability which Israel still uses too. And 308+ F-16's and 1/3,5 of them are block. Tell me the air power of greece. How many block 52 do they have? How many advanced tanks do they have? And don't forget to add their navy? I'll be appreciated if you list them here. And I list ours. So we can make a healthy disgussion.

 

[Audio]

with all respects sir you're wrong, I was a Naval JROTC candidate not a pc game expert like u. And I remember that Greeks visited us several times. We always talked about our strenghts.

1- yes we have 100+ F-4's with night bombing capability which Israel still uses too. And 308+ F-16's and 1/3,5 of them are block. Tell me the air power of greece. How many block 52 do they have? How many advanced tanks do they have? And don't forget to add their navy? I'll be appreciated if you list them here. And I list ours. So we can make a healthy disgussion.

Game exper remark was not intended towards you, the layout of my post is pretty clear towards who it was directed.

I will not be dragged into this dick measuring contest, all the info is publicly available and only a few clicks away. (yes, # and version of Greek F-16's as well-it starts with blk.30 and upward) The F-4 comment also was talking about Greek planes not Turkish. I think that was also pretty clearly presented with no doubt as to whom i am talking about.

I am not paid to educate you. Especially seeing you dont read very well and have troubles dividing 4400 with 2. Sorry if i dont trust "experts" like that.

 

[asad71]

1.O Muslims! O Turks! Beware; be warned! The enemy first desecrated Jerusalem. Then it destroyed Baghdad. Aleppo was next. It now knocks on the door of another center of Islamic heritage, Damascus. The next target of WCC (Western Christian Civilization0 is Istanbul. For centuries they have pined to retrieve Constantinople.

2. O Turkish brethren! Your potential threat is not Greece only. It is the entire WCC. Greece is just the front line of the lost Holy Roman Empire. Don't feel satisfied by matching nukes and missiles and tanks and fighters. The enemy shall strike from inside. Strengthen your Iman. Your Islamic character is his main target.

 

[Neptune]

Game exper remark was not intended towards you, the layout of my post is pretty clear towards who it was directed.

I will not be dragged into this dick measuring contest, all the info is publicly available and only a few clicks away. (yes, # and version of Greek F-16's as well-it starts with blk.30 and upward) The F-4 comment also was talking about Greek planes not Turkish. I think that was also pretty clearly presented with no doubt as to whom i am talking about.

I am not paid to educate you. Especially seeing you dont read very well and have troubles dividing 4400 with 2. Sorry if i dont trust "experts" like that.

it's not my fault if you don't ever tried to look for what's in these 4460. About history, history directs your future. And if you looked at it you'll see we always kicked greek a$s that you love so much. If the info is available why you're so fool of also looking for ours. If you don't have facts,infos,lists to say get outta this topic and leave the dream of being a keyboard hero

 

[doublemaster]

Well, Greece rise of NAZIs actually worry for isreal ??

 

[ViXuyen]

Greece's S-300 and Patriot batteries are more than enough to deal with Turkey's airforce. When you add in another 200 F-16 fighters, no way in hell Turkey is having any chance of dominating Greece's airspace. The two countries pretty much on parity when it comes to securing their air space. Turkey does look stronger than Greece but not strong enough to conquer Greece imho