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Errrr?! Who?! I aint supporting anyone any longer....Esp not ganjah he has eaten enough to get that belly exploded...Not papa smurf he literally speaks gibberish, Not IK he has lotays surrounding him...he needs to clear them off before he can make sense

Def not the lotays themselves they are firing everywhere to save their already on fire ***!

Dancing on drugs for 15 days before going...Hey I dont like you as my dance partner took me 15 days to understand that! :unsure:

To be honest I dont Care. As long as we have corrupt Generals and Corrupt Generals using corrupt Politicians as their pawns.

So they can hold onto power - Happening since 1947 - Pakistan going no where.

Explained in the simplest form.
 
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Raiwind palace of king Nawaz sharif is biggest palace in history of mankind.


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The ownership of the Raiwind palace spread over thousands of acres is a mystery because it has never been mentioned in the statements of assets and liabilities of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and other members of his family in politics. Even latest declarations submitted by Nawaz Sharif, his brother Shahbaz Sharif, son-in-law Captain Mohammad Safdar and nephew Hamza Shahbaz to the Election Commission of Pakistan are silent on the ownership title of the huge property. But Information Minister Pervez Rasheed told Dawn that the property was in the name of Shamim Sharif, mother of the Sharif brothers. The statements of assets show that the Sharif brothers have much in common. Both live in houses not owned by them. Nawaz Sharif lives in a house owned by his mother while Shahbaz Sharif resides in a house owned by his spouse Nusrat. Both use Land Cruisers gifted to them by unspecified persons. Both have multiple foreign and local currency accounts, own huge agricultural land and have investments in industrial units like sugar, textile and paper mills. The most visible dissimilarity is the rapid growth in the value of assets owned by the elder brother and continuous decline in the value of assets possessed by the younger brother. Another dissimilarity is that Shahbaz Sharif has two properties in the United Kingdom, but Nawaz Sharif has no assets abroad. Till the time of elections in May last year, Shahbaz was richer than Nawaz — though none of them a billionaire — but things are different now. According to the recent declaration, the value of Nawaz Sharif’s wealth has registered a six-fold increase in just 12 months to make him a billionaire for the first time. According to statements of assets and liabilities, the net worth of Nawaz Sharif’s assets was Rs261.6 million in 2012 and of Shahbaz Sharif Rs336.9m. In 2011, the assets of the two brothers were worth Rs166m and Rs393m, indicating an increase of Rs95.6m and decrease of Rs56.5m, respectively. In 2013, the value of assets of Nawaz Sharif ballooned to Rs1.82bn while that of Shahbaz Sharif slipped further to Rs142m. Incidentally, Shahbaz Sharif has more stakes abroad than in the country. He owns properties and bank account worth Rs138.28m in the UK. He has three loans worth 117.10m in Pakistani rupees in British banks. The younger brother has not disclosed the value of five properties with net area of around 676 kanal in Lahore – all gifted by his mother. He has Rs51.96m cash in hand and Rs7.27m in his sole bank account in the country. Mrs Nusrat, the first wife of Mr Shahbaz, had assets worth Rs273.46m on June 30 last year. It was Rs224.56m a year earlier. She has Rs14.34m cash in hand and Rs1.95m in her five bank accounts. The assets of Mrs Tehmina, the second wife of Shahbaz Sharif, are worth Rs9.83m. They were Rs7.64m last year. She has five bank accounts – two in Pound Sterling, one in dollar and two in Pak rupees, but the money in these accounts is only Rs23,770. She has cash in hand and prize bonds worth Rs750,000 and two cars. Kalsoom Nawaz, the wife of Nawaz Sharif, has net wealth of Rs235.85m, which is much less than that of Mrs Nusrat Shahbaz. Mrs Kalsoom has land and a house in Changa Gali, Abbottabad, worth Rs63.75m, a bungalow on Mall Road in Murree worth Rs100m, 88 kanal of land in Sheikhupura worth Rs70m, jewellery of Rs1.5m and shares in family businesses. She has Rs67,555 cash in hand and Rs55,765 in banks. Hamza Shahbaz is wealthier than his father with net assets of Rs250.46m. He has two wives. The wealth of his first wife is Rs2.45m and that of the second is Rs9.88m. Capt Safdar’s wealth is worth Rs14.23m. He owns a car which his wife Marium received as a gift from the UAE.



Clear from the American statement that America is backing its puppet Nawaz sharif.
DEAR GOD! Doesnt anyone question how anyone being a PM and pretending to be a pauper living off gifts can afford 3 filthy rich wives and of course maintaining them and not to forget the CM getting richer while the govt getting too poor to breathe?

Yet people wonder why we question these goons...Any money earned from the state (metro/ roads) should be confiscated immediately!

To be honest I dont Care. As long as we have corrupt Generals and Corrupt Generals using corrupt Politicians as their pawns.

So they can hold onto power - Happening since 1947 - Pakistan going no where.

Explained in the simplest form.
Of course you dont care...You are Brit with Brit passport....it is us who will suffer with you careless choices!
So you rather support international establishments mingling in this area to form another Iraq/ Afghan scenario?
 
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Possibly moving on



By Kamal Siddiqi
Published: September 1, 2014

It is difficult to understand how and where we are heading given the events of the weekend and the past fourteen days. One can only hope that whatever transpires, as a country we return to some sort of normality some time soon. This may, however, be wishful thinking.

Political violence is not a good thing, neither is state repression. Pakistan has seen its share of both in adequate quantity over the past decades. We have again been reminded of this in the past week or so. We have seen people being lathi-charged. Also tear gassed.

Party supporters have tried to cross forbidden lines. They have tried to cross what are described as state institutions like the parliament and PM house. They have tested the limits of the state. For its part, the state has conceded ground. But it has also come down hard, as if releasing its bottled-up anger.

One of the receipants of this anger was our reporter Azam Khan, who was not attacked when he was covering the police action in front of parliament but trashed when he was making his way back. On that fateful Saturday night, he made the mistake of showing his press card to the policemen standing at the periphery of the spectacle as he made his way back.

It seems the police don’t know who they are more angry with. The protestors, because of whom they have been unable to get a decent nights sleep over the past three weeks, or the media which they see as helping prolong the situation.

People inside the country as well as abroad have condemned the uncertain situation that has plagued our country over the past month. We are aware that what is happening is not good for the country. Or is it? Is it one of those passing phases in an emerging democracy that have to be endured, just like a child had to suffer certain infections to be able to develop an immunity to them. Will this exercise make democracy stronger, I wonder.

The state of affairs we have been in has affected the state of the economy, of the working of the state as well as general sentiments. It takes firm conviction for people to stand out and camp in the rain and the heat, in trying circumstances, for a cause they believe in.

People have prayed, sung and danced. They have faith in their cause. They have also been part of the longest-running such political demonstration in the history of our country. What made it more distinct was that it by and large peaceful. The workers behaved themselves in most instances. What made the demonstration even more unique was the large participation of women, and also people from the middle class of society.

These are the same people who have generally stayed away from politics, being brought up in the Zia years where it was ingrained in their minds that politics is a bad thing.

At the same time, one must also acknowledge the resolve of the prime minister not to step down on the principle of democracy. With the support of the major parties in parliament (with the possible exception now of the MQM), he has been able to hold his own. This comes from experience – learning from past mistakes.

The first time Sharif stepped down on his own accord was when a deal was brokered between him and President Ghulam Ishaq Khan by General Kakar, the then COAS.

The second time he was forced out by General Musharraf, who somehow is also relevant in today’s politics. This time he seems to be holding his ground. It his rigid stance that has also forced both the PAT and PTI to stick to their demands. There is no give and take.

As is usually the case, there are many spoilers who want the situation to be prolonged. Or for it to go one way or another.

At the end of the day, people want good governance. We want honest leaders and we want to see development in our country. That should be the underlying theme of any move for change. Sometimes in the midst of the chaos, we forget what the ultimate goal should be.

Published in The Express Tribune, September 1st, 2014.

Possibly moving on – The Express Tribune

Pakistan Economy will continue to decline if the political parties is ongoing without solution.
 
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Nasir Khattak PTI MNA just said on TV that Imran Khan, at a meeting in Bani Gala last year, told him MNAs to be ready for election in summer of 2014.

The key thing here is that Raheel Sharif wasn't even COAS at the time that meeting took place. Maybe this is all ISI instead of army?
 
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I gotta go for now and will spend more time digging up old information. For the time being, see below. Links between PTI, ISI and Army have been alleged for years.

PTI candidate from Okara confesses ISI got him Ticket
PML-N warns army, ISI to stop supporting PTI – The Express Tribune

Have some shame!! Don't act like Indians. This is Pakistan army, you have been bashing it as if it is some enemy's army.
And remember one thing that it was our army that kicked Talibans @$$es while our politicians were living in their luxury life, sucking blood of pakistani peoples through their corruption. Today we are here sitting peacefully in our couches and using PDF is just because of our army, who are sacrificing their lives to protect ours. They are making our future better by sacrificing their lives.
And if in future india attacks Pakistan then our politicians without a doubt will fly to saudi Arabia and other countries and it will gonna be our army who will protect this country till their last soldier.
 
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SC offers to play role in political crisis

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Supreme Court of Pakistan. PHOTO: AFP

ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court on Monday offered to play a role in ending the ongoing political impasse between protesters and the Nawaz-led government.

Hearing petitions filed against the ‘Azadi’ and ‘Inqilab’ marches, the SC bench gave an hour deadline to PTI’s counsel to inform the court whether they accept the court’s intervention or not.

The apex court further asked the counsel to specify what kind of role the party wants SC to play in this matter.

Commenting on the protests taking place in the federal capital, Justice Mian Saqib Nisar said the constitution is under threat because of the ongoing agitation. “Whatever is happening is unconstitutional,” he further remarked.

No counsel representing PAT was present during the hearing.

SC offers to play role in political crisis – The Express Tribune

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I'm not leaving, Nawaz tells army chief
September 1 2014http://tribune.com.pk/story/756459/pm-nawaz-meets-coas-raheel-sharif/


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ISLAMABAD: As protests in Islamabad seemingly slip out of the government’s control, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif’s met at the PM House on Monday to discuss the political crisis.


According to sources, the embattled Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif informed army chief General Raheel Sharif that he will not resign in the wake of protests by Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) and Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI).



Insiders said that in the meeting that lasted over two hours, the prime minister and army chief discussed the ongoing political crisis in detail – and its likely fallout.



Sources said that General Sharif presented a range of options before Nawaz, including stepping down for a month to allow for investigations over last year’s elections to conclude.


However, a senior Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz leader insisted that the prime minister will not step down, and will in fact address a joint session of Parliament on Tuesday.



Following his intense meeting with the army chief, the prime minister is currently holding negotiations with opposition leaders. There were also reports by a private television channel that the army chief had asked the premier to resign but the reports were immediately clarified by the ISPR spokesperson Asim Bajwa, who said the reports were baseless.



On Sunday, the army called on the government and protesters to resolve their differences peacefully Sunday night but ominously warned it was “committed to playing its part in ensuring security of the state”, after clashes left three dead.



The Corps Commander meeting, brought forward a day, came after violence broke out Saturday night when thousands of supporters of Imran Khan and Tahir-ul-Qadri tried to storm Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s house, demanding his resignation.



“While reaffirming support to democracy, the conference reviewed with serious concern, the existing political crisis and the violent turn it has taken, resulting in large scale injuries and loss of lives,” said an ISPR statement after the meeting.


“It was once again reiterated that the situation should be resolved politically without wasting any time and without recourse to violent means.”



They added: “(The) army remains committed to playing its part in ensuring security of the state and will never fall short of meeting national aspirations.”


I’m not leaving, Nawaz tells army chief – The Express Tribune
 
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So whats going on in Pakistan.Will Imran be the new PM or is army going to take over?
 
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talking about Red Mosque operation. I have my objections the way it was conducted the gays with face masks and AKs got too much publicity and time to get photographed. they should have been shot with high caliber high velocity rifles first and then the entire place raided with tanks and raised to the ground like Masjid Zarar
Couldn't agree more; what you are saying makes perfect sense. Why they did not think like that?
 
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Raiwind palace of king Nawaz sharif is biggest palace in history of mankind.


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The ownership of the Raiwind palace spread over thousands of acres is a mystery because it has never been mentioned in the statements of assets and liabilities of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and other members of his family in politics. Even latest declarations submitted by Nawaz Sharif, his brother Shahbaz Sharif, son-in-law Captain Mohammad Safdar and nephew Hamza Shahbaz to the Election Commission of Pakistan are silent on the ownership title of the huge property. But Information Minister Pervez Rasheed told Dawn that the property was in the name of Shamim Sharif, mother of the Sharif brothers. The statements of assets show that the Sharif brothers have much in common. Both live in houses not owned by them. Nawaz Sharif lives in a house owned by his mother while Shahbaz Sharif resides in a house owned by his spouse Nusrat. Both use Land Cruisers gifted to them by unspecified persons. Both have multiple foreign and local currency accounts, own huge agricultural land and have investments in industrial units like sugar, textile and paper mills. The most visible dissimilarity is the rapid growth in the value of assets owned by the elder brother and continuous decline in the value of assets possessed by the younger brother. Another dissimilarity is that Shahbaz Sharif has two properties in the United Kingdom, but Nawaz Sharif has no assets abroad. Till the time of elections in May last year, Shahbaz was richer than Nawaz — though none of them a billionaire — but things are different now. According to the recent declaration, the value of Nawaz Sharif’s wealth has registered a six-fold increase in just 12 months to make him a billionaire for the first time. According to statements of assets and liabilities, the net worth of Nawaz Sharif’s assets was Rs261.6 million in 2012 and of Shahbaz Sharif Rs336.9m. In 2011, the assets of the two brothers were worth Rs166m and Rs393m, indicating an increase of Rs95.6m and decrease of Rs56.5m, respectively. In 2013, the value of assets of Nawaz Sharif ballooned to Rs1.82bn while that of Shahbaz Sharif slipped further to Rs142m. Incidentally, Shahbaz Sharif has more stakes abroad than in the country. He owns properties and bank account worth Rs138.28m in the UK. He has three loans worth 117.10m in Pakistani rupees in British banks. The younger brother has not disclosed the value of five properties with net area of around 676 kanal in Lahore – all gifted by his mother. He has Rs51.96m cash in hand and Rs7.27m in his sole bank account in the country. Mrs Nusrat, the first wife of Mr Shahbaz, had assets worth Rs273.46m on June 30 last year. It was Rs224.56m a year earlier. She has Rs14.34m cash in hand and Rs1.95m in her five bank accounts. The assets of Mrs Tehmina, the second wife of Shahbaz Sharif, are worth Rs9.83m. They were Rs7.64m last year. She has five bank accounts – two in Pound Sterling, one in dollar and two in Pak rupees, but the money in these accounts is only Rs23,770. She has cash in hand and prize bonds worth Rs750,000 and two cars. Kalsoom Nawaz, the wife of Nawaz Sharif, has net wealth of Rs235.85m, which is much less than that of Mrs Nusrat Shahbaz. Mrs Kalsoom has land and a house in Changa Gali, Abbottabad, worth Rs63.75m, a bungalow on Mall Road in Murree worth Rs100m, 88 kanal of land in Sheikhupura worth Rs70m, jewellery of Rs1.5m and shares in family businesses. She has Rs67,555 cash in hand and Rs55,765 in banks. Hamza Shahbaz is wealthier than his father with net assets of Rs250.46m. He has two wives. The wealth of his first wife is Rs2.45m and that of the second is Rs9.88m. Capt Safdar’s wealth is worth Rs14.23m. He owns a car which his wife Marium received as a gift from the UAE.



Clear from the American statement that America is backing its puppet Nawaz sharif.
He's rich. Zardari is even richer. What's your point?
 
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Have some shame!! Don't act like Indians. This is Pakistan army, you have been bashing it as if it is some enemy's army.
And remember one thing that it was our army that kicked Talibans @$$es while our politicians were living in their luxury life, sucking blood of pakistani peoples through their corruption. Today we are here sitting peacefully in our couches and using PDF is just because of our army, who are sacrificing their lives to protect ours. They are making our future better by sacrificing their lives.
And if in future india attacks Pakistan then our politicians without a doubt will fly to saudi Arabia and other countries and it will gonna be our army who will protect this country till their last soldier.
In a democracy which Pakistan claims to be, Military has no place in politics. That being said, who has ruled Pakistan for the majority of its existence?

Military has played a major role in our politics for a long long time and that needs to change asap if we are to progress as a nation.
 
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PTV take over. Aur dikhao Rang De Basanti in ko :D

Ab humain kaisay pata chalay ga ke Amreekan sundi humari kapaas ke sath kya sulook ker rahi hai :(

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