Govt asks economist Atif Mian to step down from Economic Advisory Council

[BHarwana]

Who cares about Atif Mian's impeccable credentials, who cares that he's possibly the top economist of Pakistani origin in the world right now. Who cares if we need bailout money today and water tomorrow. Replace him with Khadim Rizvi and be done with it.

Okay you are now suggesting for a second blunder?
Come on man let it go and let this chapter end. I am already running out of arguments.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Bhai, It has nothing to do with the versions. If there is one thing on which all Muslims are united regardless of their sectarian affiliations, it is Oneness of the Allah Almighty and the finality of the Prophethood of the holy Prophet (Peace be upon him).

thats correct, but even then there are mullahs that divide us, we are divide initially as sunni/shias, then we are divided in hanafi/salafis/hanbalis there is another one that i can't remember, then in Pakistan we are further divided into deobandis/barelvis. Funny thing is that there are more sects in Pakistan alone then there are in the rest of the world combined and they all hate each other and call each other kafirs.

someone on this forum asked me a while back if i am deobandi or barelvi, i said i am Hanafi, he replied you can't just be hanafi, you have to be either deobandi or barelvi. I replied i don't accept any of these Made in India version of sects. Guess what, he called me a Kafir because i didn't accept being either of them two.

Just a couple of days ago this noothiya CIS wanted to prove that i am kafir by saying that because i raised my voice for that qadyani guy, i had to prove to him that i believe in the finality of the prophet.

Do you believe in khatm e nabuwat? Your stance creating a serious doubt on that.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Who cares about Atif Mian's impeccable credentials, who cares that he's possibly the top economist of Pakistani origin in the world right now. Who cares if we need bailout money today and water tomorrow. Replace him with Khadim Rizvi and be done with it.

 

[The Diplomat]

Okay you are now suggesting for a second blunder?
Come on man let it go and let this chapter end. I am already running out of arguments.

He's being sarcastic bro.

 

[Verve]

Oh right. Well he should be condemned.

Coming back to the original topic. What does Atif Mian being an Ahmedi have to do with him serving this nation as an economic adviser? He is more than capable to do that.

Again, go through his tweets for your answer.

Make an effort.

 

[The Diplomat]

Again, go through his tweets for your answer.

Make an effort.

I'm not wasting my time digging out years old tweet. If I see it shared it's fine but if I don't then I'm not spending my time looking for it.

His 4 recent tweets shows his patriotic side. That's enough to tell me that he loves his nation.

 

[BHarwana]

He's being sarcastic bro.

I know bro. But to the intensity this issue is being stretched is way too great. Let's end it. Pakistani politics is not as simple as people think.

I'm not wasting my time digging out years old tweet. If I see it shared it's fine but if I don't then I'm not spending my time looking for it.

His 4 recent tweets shows his patriotic side. That's enough to tell me that he loves his nation.

This tweets about CPEC are not in line.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Okay you are now suggesting for a second blunder?
Come on man let it go and let this chapter end. I am already running out of arguments.

I am just disappointed in the government and saddened by this. I understand the government has caved under pressure, but they should have either never have took him on in the first place if they were going to be made to cower in this fashion.

I've read this Atif Mian's thoughts on our economy and they include concerns that have been building in my mind over the past two years, he is of course far more qualified than I could ever be and he describes them in detail.

To put this into perspective, we just had a bad finance minister, who among other things, removed SBP's autonomy in order to maintain a useless target of 100 pkr dollar spot. He probably ordered the SBP to burn our reserves for this idiotic policy, and now we are in need of bailouts of those same reserves we literally burned, and we might well need to approach the likes of the IMF for that money now, and that strong PKR fell massively a while back, so it was all for nothing. I understand we are talking about someone on EAC vs finance minister, but just consider the point.

Compare that finance minister to someone like Atif Mian, I accept that one of these men is no doubt a non-believer as he doesn't accept khatm e nabuwwat, the other probably does, but it didn't stop the believer from irreparably damaging our economy for the next few years at least.

What use is this moral outrage today if your currency can't buy your citizens basic necessities tomorrow, if your citizens suffer droughts and water shortages due to a lack of investment?

There's a big world out there and self-righteousness isn't a luxury we can afford. Whether we like it or not, atheist Chinese who do not even consider our Prophet are bank rolling our infrastructure projects, we will probably look to the irreligious IMF to arrange a bailout for us sanctimonious people.

This Qadiyani's paper about the financial crisis in the US and their government's response is currently shaping their thinking of the crisis, the wisdom of political and economic giants like Ben Bernanke has been challenged by him, and here we are removing him on the basis of an irrelevance, his religion which is wholly detached from the purview of his job.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

 

[mingle]

A vast majority of the nation is radicalized, not going to go away any time soon.

I am surprised educated class is too u see twitter FB I am shocked and ashamed.

That is why Atif Mian has been rejected because he was asking for reports even before he was selected as economic advisor. If you want a report I can tell you where to get it from.

Wrong don't justify pti or IK. Every one will ask report it takes time to go through it.

 

[BHarwana]

I am just disappointed in the government and saddened by this. I understand the government has caved under pressure, but they should have either never have took him on in the first place if they were going to be made to cower in this fashion.

I've read this Atif Mian's thoughts on our economy and they include concerns that have been building in my mind over the past two years, he is of course far more qualified than I could ever be and he describes them in detail.

To put this into perspective, we just had a bad finance minister, who among other things, removed SBP's autonomy in order to maintain a useless target of 100 pkr dollar spot. He probably ordered the SBP to burn our reserves for this idiotic policy, and now we are in need of bailouts of those same reserves we literally burned, and we might well need to approach the likes of the IMF for that money now, and that strong PKR fell massively a while back, so it was all for nothing. I understand we are talking about someone on EAC vs finance minister, but just consider the point.

Compare that finance minister to someone like Atif Mian, I accept that one of these men is no doubt a non-believer as he doesn't accept khatm e nabuwwat, the other probably does, but it didn't stop the believer from irreparably damaging our economy for the next few years at least.

What use is this moral outrage today if your currency can't buy your citizens basic necessities tomorrow, if your citizens suffer droughts and water shortages due to a lack of investment?

There's a big world out there and self-righteousness isn't a luxury we can afford. Whether we like it or not, atheist Chinese who do not even consider our Prophet are bank rolling our infrastructure projects, we will probably look to the irreligious IMF to arrange a bailout for us sanctimonious people.

This Qadiyani's paper about the financial crisis in the US and their government's response is currently shaping their thinking of the crisis, the wisdom of political and economic giants like Ben Bernanke has been challenged by him, and here we are removing him on the basis of an irrelevance, his religion which is wholly detached from the purview of his job.

Yes the pressure placed on govt was bad I agree with it. That should have been not the case but this pressure was internal not external.
He is a qualified person for the job I also agree with it but he is not the top person there other better than him but this is no reason for his dismissal he was more than qualified for the job.

The govt placed Pakistan in a difficult position and gave every opposition a chance to bash us. It would have been better that they would have not appointed him in the first place instead of removing him.

His economic policies are good but he is more inclined on the anti-china model because he used all his knowledge in the past to counter china when he was in west. I have only one issue with him which was his CPEC policy.

On the whole this has been a shit show. People here are blaming Imran Khan but this decision was out of Imran Khans hand.

I am surprised educated class is too u see twitter FB I am shocked and ashamed.


Wrong don't justify pti or IK. Every one will ask report it takes time to go through it.

Reports are out there and are available to public already. I was playing with that legend dude. Regarding the reports which USA is demanding those will never be provided no matter what.

 

[denel]

You must be kidding me....... why.

Man, this is stupid beyond belief. Same was done to Hon Abdus Salam ... people never learn; have mullah power not caused enough destruction to last a life time?

So much for empowerment of minorities....

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Imran khan even mentioned his name Atif mian. And then u-turn after he became P.M.
What a Shame .... Imran khan becomes coward in front of extremist. Because his mentality has few links with them.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Imran khan even mentioned his name Atif mian. And then u-turn after he became P.M.
What a Shame .... Imran khan becomes coward in front of extremist. Because his mentality has few links with them.

I think Imran Khan did not know about religious beliefs of Atif mian when he was feeling proud of his achievement and even wanted to make him as finance Minister But knowing religious beliefs of Atif Mian should not invalidate his qualification and skills ..even Jemima was disappointed

https://twitter.com/x/status/1038037991720198146

 

[pzfz]

This is reality of Imran khan

Pakistani Taliban offer security for Imran Khan’s S Waziristan rally:
https://www.google.com.pk/amp/s/tribune.com.pk/story/445709/pakistani-taliban-offer-security-for-imran-khans-s-waziristan-rally-report/?amp=1

His love with taliban & terrorist is open book.
No wonder he took out name of atif mian after protest of taliban related mentality

Don't play into the dog-whistle that perpetrates the WoT. Imran Khan is not an extremist, nor does he love the taliban like the noon league, juif, anp, and pppp do. What he is, as demonstrated by this episode, is a coward. He might be slightly better at his predecessors at making the tough decisions in order to right the ship but he'll ultimately just cave into the majoritarian garbage spewed by the unlearned of Pak.