Govt asks economist Atif Mian to step down from Economic Advisory Council

[TMA]

Mate, forget about these ingrate losers - the libturds. We have serious issues at hand like constructing dams, and recovering the economy so we should on these practical things so that we can contribute positively and rather you should visit this post and make a pledge yourself
Prime Minister Imran Khan calls on overseas Pakistanis to donate to dams fund

I understand but this is a tactic of theirs, to deflect attention from real and important issues to issues which just cause unnecessary friction.

 

[war&peace]

I understand but this is a tactic of theirs, to deflect attention from real and important issues to issues which just cause unnecessary friction.

Good!! then just visit that thread and see what you can contribute to the cause. We need to be do more and this is the time our PM has appealed to us.

 

[LeGenD]

You clearly do not have the answer to my question, posed twice. Shame you want CPEC project to be fully made public yet can't find a single example in the world.

Example of NAFTA: https://www.thebalance.com/nafta-definition-north-american-free-trade-agreement-3306147

Good enough for you?

Government's Economic Council should know the details and renegotiations with Chinese are already happening - keep up with news!

CPEC related details continue to leak from time-to-time. I have attended two summits in person. Some Pakistani views below:

http://www.cadtm.org/Is-Pakistan-falling-into-China-s

https://www.devex.com/news/pakistan-s-100b-deal-with-china-what-does-it-amount-to-90872

What is the status of CPEC at present? Why still loadshedding and economic crisis? What are the pros and cons of CPEC? How Pakistani people will benefit from CPEC? - These are pressing questions.

Give me an example of investor who would be interested in knowing the contractual terms of CPEC if setting up a factory in Pakistan?

I'll play the accountant. You play an investor who wants to set up a business in Pakistan.

Start.

Do you have a report of CPEC in which investment avenues are highlighted and their terms are discussed?

 

[The Diplomat]

Can a State which claims to be Islamic allow her leader to be non Muslim?
The only way that can be is if the State then declares no attachment to Islam.

You live in the UK. Mayor of London is a Muslim from South Asian heritage, the home sectary is a minority (the second most powerful position in the country). Religion and politics should stay separate.

 

[LeGenD]

And the Lord God has prohibited usury and you want Pakistan to go to the most professional money lender the world has ever seen...?
They are Shylocks, they want their pound of flesh, even Christian Shakespeare knew it...

FYI: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/govt...advisory-council.576301/page-23#post-10770860

Pakistan should learn to manage its balance of payments with sound economic measures, and curb corruption. I support the idea of setting up an Economic Think Tank to offer relevant advice. This Think Tank should be privy to every thing economy-related concerning Pakistan.

But;

What to do about current chapter of economic crisis? How we address existing imbalance of payments? What about the loans we have taken from Saudi Arabia and China? - These are pressing issues.

 

[The Diplomat]

yep anyone that opposes someone few support become that

My vote was for PTI and he's still the best chance we got to turn this country around. I'm sad to see an educated person, such as Imran do something like this.

Is there any denying that Khadim supporters are over the moon with this decision? Are they not mullahs?

Lol .. how's he a hypocrite if he is doing all the mullah things according to you anyways?

Living a playboy life style in the West and on return to Pakistan being ultra right wing.
It doesn't match. On one spectrum his ultra left for half of his life than on the other spectrum he's ultra right.

Are you supporting Atif Mian's removal?

 

[Verve]

Example of NAFTA: https://www.thebalance.com/nafta-definition-north-american-free-trade-agreement-3306147

Good enough for you?

hahahaha ... how daft of you to equate a free trade agreement with a strategic project between two countries. Keep looking for a similar project.

CPEC related details continue to leak from time-to-time. I have attended two summits in person. Some Pakistani views below:

http://www.cadtm.org/Is-Pakistan-falling-into-China-s

https://www.devex.com/news/pakistan-s-100b-deal-with-china-what-does-it-amount-to-90872

What is the status of CPEC at present? Why still loadshedding and economic crisis? What are the pros and cons of CPEC? How Pakistani people will benefit from CPEC? - These are pressing questions.

Again, your propaganda stands exposed. You are changing tact now.

Maybe you can't think at the big level. Ask a question as a company like BASF would.

What I can assure you is that for BASF to setup a factory in Pakistan, they would not want to know the funding terms of CPEC. Perhaps you have never worked for a large multinational!

Do you have a report of CPEC in which investment avenues are highlighted and their terms are discussed?

No one is asking for companies to invest in CPEC. Those companies constructing roads, industrial zones and power plants are part of CPEC have already been contracted as part of the CPEC plan.

Companies wanting to invest in Pakistan (& not CPEC) look at infrastructure, supply chain etc and various risks such economic risk, political risk etc. They are in no position to demand CPEC funding terms disclosed.

Companies will be invited to setup shop at the stage when the infrastructure is there to support their businesses. Wait for that stage.

 

[TMA]

You live in the UK. Mayor of London is a Muslim from South Asian heritage, the home sectary is a minority (the second most powerful position in the country). Religion and politics should stay separate.

You did not answer my question.

Should a State that declares itself Islamic allow a non Muslim to be its leader? Or rather can she allow this? To me that seems utterly preposterous. The only way is if she undeclared herself to be Islamic....

In response to your statement about Mayor of London being a Muslim from South Asian heritage and the Home Secretary being a minority...what has that got to do with Pakistan....? If the UK allows a non Christian to such a post, ought Pakistan to reciprocate???
Appointments to posts in Pakistan ought to be independent of what happens in other governments???
One Mosque in the UK, therefore one Church in Pakistan...ten Mosques in the UK....ten Churches in Pakistan...is this the rational????

As to religion and politics...that is your opinion...the opinion of Allama Iqbal and mine differ....

Not to mention the opinion of the State of Pakistan, differs to yours....

 

[Verve]

Living a playboy life style in the West and on return to Pakistan being ultra right wing.
It doesn't match. On one spectrum his ultra left for half of his life than on the other spectrum he's ultra right.

Are you supporting Atif Mian's removal?

As long as IK has been in politics (22 years), his stance is the same. That's what matters, not his younger days.

Atif's removal is a good decision for Pakistan. He should not have been included in the first place. We don't want anyone at policy influence level who has major issues with Pakistan (his tweets are enough to know).

 

[The Diplomat]

You did not answer my question.

Should a State that declares itself Islamic allow a non Muslim to be its leader? Or rather can she allow this? To me that seems utterly preposterous. The only way is if she undeclared herself to be Islamic....

In response to your statement about Mayor of London being a Muslim from South Asian heritage and the Home Secretary being a minority...what has that got to do with Pakistan....? If the UK allows a non Christian to such a post, ought Pakistan to reciprocate???
Appointments to posts in Pakistan ought to be independent of what happens in other governments???
One Mosque in the UK, therefore one Church in Pakistan...ten Mosques in the UK....ten Churches in Pakistan...is this the rational????

As to religion and politics...that is your opinion...the opinion of Allama Iqbal and mine differ....

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Not to mention the opinion of the State of Pakistan, differs to yours....

My friend, I'm sure you're an educated person working for a good firm in the UK. What you have achieved in the UK, despite your heritage. Do you think you could achieve the same in Pakistan being a minority? We all cry rivers when we were of something against the minorities happening here in the UK, why shouldn't we cry when the same happens in Pakistan? You are free to build as many Mosques in the UK as you want, when is the last time a brand new Church was built in Pakistan?

We call people "Kafir", who are we to call people that?

Pakistan may have been found for the Muslim majority of British India however does that mean that other non-Muslim citizens in Pakistan are not equal to me? I don't think so. They should get the same opportunities I get to prosper in my beautiful Pakistan.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Asim Khawaja, professor at Harvard, has also resigned from advisory council in protest against protests over Atif Mian. good circus going on in EAC

https://twitter.com/x/status/1038058009845485568

 

[TMA]

As long as IK has been in politics (22 years), his stance is the same. That's what matters, not his younger days.

Atif's removal is a good decision for Pakistan. He should not have been included in the first place. We don't want anyone at policy influence level who has major issues with Pakistan (his tweets are enough to know).

You know it has only come to my recent attention at his anti Pakistan tweets...what the hell was the Government thinking...?

 

[The Diplomat]

As long as IK has been in politics (22 years), his stance is the same. That's what matters, not his younger days.

Atif's removal is a good decision for Pakistan. He should not have been included in the first place. We don't want anyone at policy influence level who has major issues with Pakistan (his tweets are enough to know).

What issue does he have with Pakistan? I see a patriotic man, who loves Pakistan. The only reason he was removed was because Mullahs cried about his religious believes. Sure, I'll accept it if he was removed for being incompetent however he was not removed for that reason. How would you feel if you lost your job in the UK for being a Muslim? It's not right is it? Put yourself in that position.

 

[Verve]

We call people "Kafir", who are we to call people that?

Ask that to the Qadyani Khalifa who said on the Parliament floor that anyone who doesn't believe in Mirza Ghulam to be a nabi is a kafir.

What issue does he have with Pakistan? I see a patriotic man, who loves Pakistan. The only reason he was removed was because Mullahs cried about his religious believes. Sure, I'll accept it if he was removed for being incompetent however he was not removed for that reason. How would you feel if you lost your job in the UK for being a Muslim? It's not right is it? Put yourself in that position.

Go look at his twitter account in details, and some tweets I've posted here as well.

Losing my job in UK for being a muslim is fine, I'll migrate or run my own business. Allah provides.

This guy is not short of money that without the advisor job he'll starve. Life goes on.

 

[LeGenD]

hahahaha ... how daft of you to equate a free trade agreement with a strategic project between two countries. Keep looking for a similar project.

NAFTA strategic implications: https://nationalinterest.org/feature/nafta-americas-most-powerful-foreign-policy-tool-24712

Again, your propaganda stands exposed. You are changing tact now.

Maybe you can't think at the big level. Ask a question as a company like BASF would.

What I can assure you is that for BASF to setup a factory in Pakistan, they would not want to know the funding terms of CPEC. Perhaps you have never worked for a large multinational!



No one is asking for companies to invest in CPEC. Those companies constructing roads, industrial zones and power plants are part of CPEC have already been contracted as part of the CPEC plan.

Companies wanting to invest in Pakistan (& not CPEC) look at infrastructure, supply chain etc and various risks such economic risk, political risk etc. They are in no position to demand CPEC funding terms disclosed.

FYI: http://cpec.gov.pk/significance-potential/4

Answer this: have you attended any CPEC summit?