Govt Approves Inclusion Of Qadianis In National Commission For Minorities

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

because there is a consensus among the muslim ummah on them just like the consensus was reached for the qadiyanis.

neither the bahai caliph nor the ismaili imam have done takfeer on Muslims in Pakistan nor their appointees.

Mate go do your research on Baha'i imams, they have done takfeer on mainstream Muslims during the time they lived and that takfeer applies to modern day Muslims.

And according to you if a group hasn't done takfeer then they should be allowed in the minority list of religions? How far up your arse did you had to pull out this excuse? Why don't you just admit you're wrong.

Alawites, who formed from an offshoot of Shia islam never did takfeer on other Shia Muslims but they in unequivocally termed as non Muslims by all Shia sects and also by all Sunni Muslims.

What other weak excuses are you going to throw at me. I enjoy educating kids like you who think they know everything when in reality they know nothing

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

they not accept themselves as nonMuslims but want to avail privileges under umbrella of minorities and continue to preach their religion by using Islamic symbols ,in past govt also removed the condition of Khatm e Nabovat from Hajj forms to benefit them as minorities cannot perform Hajj ,all these proceedings show that they actually want to achieve their other objective which is to convert poor Muslims in Pakistan to their religion by offering them huge money and foreign visas like they did in past

Ismailis don't accept themselves as non Muslims, but they are listed in the list of minority religions. They were added back in 1980s when Zia ul haq was in power. They enjoy the privileges of minorities so then why not qadianis???

Baha'i don't consider themselves non Muslim, they consider themselves New Muslims just like qadianis do, but they're also placed on the list of minority religions in Pakistan. Why then do you have a problem with qadianis???

I'll tell you why, because you allowed your anger and emotions to take over your thinking and forgot that no religion is above Humanity, none.

Doesn't matter what you believe in, you have certain rights and privileges as a human being. And qadianis are the only group of people in Pakistan that are denied those rights and don't you dare pretend like they are treated the same as every other group, because they're not.

Stop fooling yourself and admit that you're wrong. Don't let your ego dictate your views.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

It’s a branch of a whole big second prominent sect. That makes no sense to compare them with Qaydanis.

Can you read English??? Let me write it in capital for you so you can understand it better

THEY WERE DECLARED NON MUSLIM AND PLACED IN THE MINORITIES RELIGION GROUP BACK IN THE 1980s

If they were a sect of Islam, they wouldn't have been placed in the minorities religion now would they???? Read the comment before replying mate

They're considered non Muslims by every branch of Shia Islam and they were declared non Muslims by Sunni branch of Islam in the 1970s, then each individual Muslim country passed laws in their country declaring them non Muslims over the decade, Pakistan passed the resolution back in the 80s.

So what justification or I should say excuse are you going to throw now???

 

[Yaseen1]

qadyanis are living much better than hindus,christans and other minorities in Pakistan,I have never seen any qadyani doing menial and lower level job like sweeper and garbage picker which Christians do in Pakistan but they live in very good build houses here and are well off so it is all fake propaganda that their rights are being violated

Ismailis don't accept themselves as non Muslims, but they are listed in the list of minority religions. They were added back in 1980s when Zia ul haq was in power. They enjoy the privileges of minorities so then why not qadianis???

Baha'i don't consider themselves non Muslim, they consider themselves New Muslims just like qadianis do, but they're also placed on the list of minority religions in Pakistan. Why then do you have a problem with qadianis???

I'll tell you why, because you allowed your anger and emotions to take over your thinking and forgot that no religion is above Humanity, none.

Doesn't matter what you believe in, you have certain rights and privileges as a human being. And qadianis are the only group of people in Pakistan that are denied those rights and don't you dare pretend like they are treated the same as every other group, because they're not.

Stop fooling yourself and admit that you're wrong. Don't let your ego dictate your views.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

qadyanis are living much better than hindus,christans and other minorities in Pakistan,I have never seen any qadyani doing menial and lower level job like sweeper and garbage picker which Christians do in Pakistan but they live in very good build houses here and are well off so it is all fake propaganda that their rights are being violated

You purposely avoided my whole reply because you knew you had no response to it.

I want your response on Ismailis and Baha'i.

I want you to respond to what I wrote about them

And don't try to change the topic now

If you don't think they're rights are being taken away then why cry over putting them on the minority list? What rights can they possibly receive that they don't already have, according to you??

I'll wait for your response about my ismailis and Baha'i comment. Today I'll teach you history and make sure you don't forget. You remind me of those people who've only taken classes in basic Islamic studies and think they're professors. Let me show you what you're too ignorant to see

 

[Trango Towers]

I am loving it.

PTI is digging its own grave. And they have no idea.

"And they plan, and ALLAH plans, and ALLAH is the best planner."

But qadianis although lost are also the creation of Allah. Does Allah like oppressors? When we muslims are overseas we want rights and these people should have rights as the white stripe in the Pakistani flag is for minorities. That include qadianis. Even I'd we dont agree with them

 

[ali_raza]

no



and your solution is keeping the current system going with a beautiful face?

then why r u itching soo hard.
move on and let it be

But qadianis although lost are also the creation of Allah. Does Allah like oppressors? When we muslims are overseas we want rights and these people should have rights as the white stripe in the Pakistani flag is for minorities. That include qadianis. Even I'd we dont agree with them

so u have sympathy with qadianis now.?
and who said they r oppressed

 

[GumNaam]

Ismailis think they're Muslims. But they've been declared non Muslims by Pakistani law back in 1980s. So why are you complaining????

Erm...Ismailis have never been declared as nonmuslims...what're you smoking!

 

[Yaseen1]

ismailis and bahai not commit blasphemy like qadyani do,why Muslims in Pakistan consider qadyani threat and others like ismaili etc as not threat explain that they are not ordinary minority but have linkages with foreign agencies and are largely involved in converting Muslims to qadyani by exploiting those people who are illiterate regarding Islamic teachings and suffering from poverty,they provide them with money and foreign visa in return for converting to qadyani

You purposely avoided my whole reply because you knew you had no response to it.

I want your response on Ismailis and Baha'i.

I want you to respond to what I wrote about them

And don't try to change the topic now

If you don't think they're rights are being taken away then why cry over putting them on the minority list? What rights can they possibly receive that they don't already have, according to you??

I'll wait for your response about my ismailis and Baha'i comment. Today I'll teach you history and make sure you don't forget. You remind me of those people who've only taken classes in basic Islamic studies and think they're professors. Let me show you what you're too ignorant to see

 

[khail007]

If people don't consider Ahmadis as Muslims, then they are minorities and should have a place on the National Commission on Minorities.

Exactly as you described but the issue with Qadianis/Ahmadis is that they consider them as real Muslims (though they are not) and they consider rest of Muslims (as Muslims of Pakistan) non-Muslims.
That is what their leader told to national assembly when called in for discussion in 1973 assembly on same issue.

If you don't consider them minorities, then they are Muslims.

So by logic, if we consider them Muslims then we will be non-Muslims and Qadiani/Ahmad don't inclined to declare themselves minority/non-Muslim.

You can't just put millions of people from a particular faith in limbo - neither minorities nor Muslims, just because you're incapable of controlling your inner bigot.

That is clear that they are non-Muslim, as they do not believe on 'ختم نبوت', but as they still consider themselves as Muslim so it is their inner bigot which has put them in this status/hot water.

 

[GumNaam]

ismailis and bahai not commit blasphemy like qadyani do,why Muslims in Pakistan consider qadyani threat and others like ismaili etc as not threat explain that they are not ordinary minority but have linkages with foreign agencies and are largely involved in converting Muslims to qadyani by exploiting those people who are illiterate regarding Islamic teachings and suffering from poverty,they provide them with money and foreign visa in return for converting to qadyani

then three qadiyanis actually engaged in such activities with foreign intel agencies & espionage should be charged with treason & undermining national interest & then punished accordingly BUT with evidence...labelling all qadiyanis as foreign agents in a blanket swoop is dangerous as it closes the doors of weening qadiyanis away from this laanat & bringing them in the folds of Islam.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Let them be minorities and enjoy perks and privileges of being one. What else do you want to do; a genocide on Qadianis? They are to Muslims what Muslims are to Jews. Jews think we're the ones with a false prophet too.

 

[Yaseen1]

the books of qadyani religion like rohani khazain contain such filthy content which is not present in other minorities religious books,there are many videos on social media like youtube in which qadyani tell story of people converted to qadyani from Islam in foreign countries particularly europe and canada

then three qadiyanis actually engaged in such activities with foreign intel agencies & espionage should be charged with treason & undermining national interest & then punished accordingly BUT with evidence...labelling all qadiyanis as foreign agents in a blanket swoop is dangerous as it closes the doors of weening qadiyanis away from this laanat & bringing them in the folds of Islam.

jews Holy Book includes indication of our Holy Prophet(P.B.U.H) and also does the Holy Bible

Let them be minorities and enjoy perks and privileges of being one. What else do you want to do; a genocide on Qadianis? They are to Muslims what Muslims are to Jews. Jews think we're the ones with a false prophet too.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

ismailis and bahai not commit blasphemy like qadyani do,why Muslims in Pakistan consider qadyani threat and others like ismaili etc as not threat explain that they are not ordinary minority but have linkages with foreign agencies and are largely involved in converting Muslims to qadyani by exploiting those people who are illiterate regarding Islamic teachings and suffering from poverty,they provide them with money and foreign visa in return for converting to qadyani

ismailis and bahai not commit blasphemy like qadyani do,why Muslims in Pakistan consider qadyani threat and others like ismaili etc as not threat explain that they are not ordinary minority but have linkages with foreign agencies and are largely involved in converting Muslims to qadyani by exploiting those people who are illiterate regarding Islamic teachings and suffering from poverty,they provide them with money and foreign visa in return for converting to qadyani

1. You should go read the theology of ismailis, they consider the Agha Khan and all previous imams as reincarnation of the spirit of the Prophet PBUH. If this isn't blasphemy then I don't know what is.

2. The Baha'i are just as bad if not worse, they believe that the Qur'an was altered during the reigns of the Ummayad Caliphate and that their imams or Baba brought the correct versions back in his new book.

You are completely uneducated and you still keep playing yourself as a fool

3. Are you really going to stand there and claim that Qadianis are the only foreign funded groups in Pakistan???

What about the wahabis who are funded by saudia and Qatar who preach their morphism when it comes to the Aspects of Allah where they believe that Allah has body parts

What about all the Protestant and Anglican churches and convents that are all foreign funded and how they preach their religion in their schools where Muslims study. What about them???

What about Shia groups, a lot of whom are funded by Iran??? What about them???

Why are you turning a blind eye to all of them and only focusing on qadianis???

Because Shaitan has put fire of ignorance in your heart and your heart is black and the Noor of Allah isn't going to it because you're preventing it.

You're openly showing everyone that you are okay with isolating and picking on one religion even though all the other minorities are doing the same

Shame on you. Wake up from your ignorance.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

then why r u itching soo hard.
move on and let it be


so u have sympathy with qadianis now.?
and who said they r oppressed

The majority never thinks that the minorities are oppressed. Unless you've been in their shoes. They're not Muslims, that automatically makes them minority religion, therefore you have no justification for opposing have their religion placed in the committee list of minorities.