Govt Approves Inclusion Of Qadianis In National Commission For Minorities

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

You better know you have inside information. But I hope it goes anyway m


Please go and read something about bahaia. They have nothing to do with Islam. They are something like qadiyanis. But originated in Iran with their own prophet.
But they don't claim Islam or something. Where as Ismalis are a sect of Shia. They have an imam. And they follow shia practices mostly.

Baha'i consider them an update of Islam just like qadianis and they call themselves true believers and Muslims, you have clearly never met a Baha'i. I had the unfortunate of meeting a group and they consider themselves "new Muslims" as they say it. So yes they do consider themselves as Muslim just like qadianis do.
.and if Ismailis are a branch of Shia Islam then why does both Pakistan and Iran consider them non Muslims in their respective jurisprudence system??? Why are ismailis included in the list of minorities????

 

[El Sidd]

You're a known troll and you want to tell me about provocation??? [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Everyone here calls you a troll so let's not throw stones while in a glass house

but no one would ever call you Salahuddin Ayyubi

Maybe the same is true for you.
You people just don't have the idea of the outside world with so much immersed in your own pathetic lives and daily activities. A common was not even have the capacity to even pass on these big judgements. The issues are too big and the way forwards is too tough. Nothing could be achieved unless working hard. 2 generations die working hard so that the third one would be prosperous. That how the world works. Besides confused as the product of this nation unable to. Understand if Marshall Law is better or democracy. Or if democracy is better then what form. Unable to even run local bodies. Unable to even become a nation. Unable to even decide on moon sighting. The berelvis would kill wahabis and the wahabis would kill berelvis. Extremist mindset still perivail. Everyone want everything on a hot plate. We are no dubai. We have no natural resources of yet. We have to work hard like turkey.

You are too afraid to even try governance for a change.

Everyone comes prepared out on the streets with excuses straight out of the Bible.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

why don't you point out those rights that you think are missing. if this distinction is so well important. it begs the question what exactly are they being deprived off by other domination.

simple question this. even the courts will ask this.

Bahais and Alevis and Ismailis are a settled issue within the community. Pakistan strictly defines what constitutes a Muslim in legal islamic jurisprudence.

Islamic Ideology council can however guide you better in this regard. Their first caliph declared all Muslims as Kafirs after they rejected the message of his father, founder of the cult of Qadiyan.

Why should I provide?? You're the one crying because their name is being placed in the list of minorities. So you should tell me why shouldn't they be placed in the list and what rights they are denied that other minorities are provided. Because there are many things that they are denied, such as govt and civil jobs being just one. So because you're crying, you should be the one to justify why they are not a minority like ismailis and Baha'i

 

[El Sidd]

Please go and read something about bahaia. They have nothing to do with Islam. They are something like qadiyanis. But originated in Iran with their own prophet.
But they don't claim Islam or something. Where as Ismalis are a sect of Shia. They have an imam. And they follow shia practices mostly.

Religious discussions are not allowed on the forum jazbaati naujawan.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

but no one would ever call you Salahuddin Ayyubi


You are too afraid to even try governance for a change.

Everyone comes prepared out on the streets with excuses straight out of the Bible.

I don't care what they call me, at least they don't call me a troll like they call you, at least everyone knows I didn't have multiple accounts like you did before. Do you think no one remembers [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[BHarwana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1255627478686629890

Plz lock this thread now.

Mods.

 

[El Sidd]

Why should I provide?? You're the one crying because their name is being placed in the list of minorities. So you should tell me why shouldn't they be placed in the list and what rights they are denied that other minorities are provided. Because there are many things that they are denied, such as govt and civil jobs being just one. So because you're crying, you should be the one to justify why they are not a minority like ismailis and Baha'i

because it is unconstitutional to grant protection of religion status to cults. exploitation of any and every kind is illegal in Pakistan.

and i am asking the government the same question and speculating what could possibly be the reason which obviously is money and possible soft power in Indian Punjab.

I don't care what they call me, at least they don't call me a troll like they call you, at least everyone knows I didn't have multiple accounts like you did before. Do you think no one remembers [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

@Slav Defence

iska masla hal karo

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

because it is unconstitutional to grant protection of religion status to cults. exploitation of any and every kind is illegal in Pakistan.

and i am asking the government the same question and speculating what could possibly be the reason which obviously is money and possible soft power in Indian Punjab.



@Slav Defence

iska masla hal karo

If it is illegal then why did ismailis and Baha'i get placed in the list of minority religions????

Please do you research before replying back. Are you all so young on this forum that non of you have any knowledge or education???

 

[El Sidd]

If it is illegal then why did ismailis and Baha'i get placed in the list of minority religions????

Please do you research before replying back. Are you all so young on this forum that non of you have any knowledge or education???

because there is a consensus among the muslim ummah on them just like the consensus was reached for the qadiyanis.

neither the bahai caliph nor the ismaili imam have done takfeer on Muslims in Pakistan nor their appointees.

 

[Pakistansdefender]

but no one would ever call you Salahuddin Ayyubi


You are too afraid to even try governance for a change.

Everyone comes prepared out on the streets with excuses straight out of the Bible.

What kind of governance you want dead?
A person sitting in the capital developing that capital and that not too goods while the whole province goes down hill. And not even talk about other provinces.
They are doing the best they can. You can do everything with money. In Feb there was local bodies election.. They would come after this carona scare. Besides as government have money they can spend more on improving the existing schools and hospitals. And as income increase built.
We are 7th largest milk producing country and unable to even produce enough that it prices go down like 50.per liter. We do not even produce butter that it is cheaply avaliable. We do not even sow lentils. We cannot even make meat cheap. In every country the basic things they consume are dirt cheap.
And this is a mechanism. If policies would be right now, 10 years below the line we would try to See some improvement.
Every district should develop own its own with its capital city as head quarters and surrounding cities and villages vice versa. And so is the local bodies system that is going to come.
Pm and even cm cannot come to built an ordinary road in some remote place. That's why our cities and in short governance standards have fallen. Look at Iran their governance is excellent. Not because of an 3xcellent leader. But because of an excellent system I choose to give example of Iran not out of love but out of comparison of both been poor and a sactioned etc. Even a bad ruler comes there the instructions continue to work for their districts. This current system of a single cm controlling everything has led to deterioration of dirty cities, bad infrastructure and no proper sweage and other facilities. Also no health and education facilities.

 

[Yaseen1]

they not accept themselves as nonMuslims but want to avail privileges under umbrella of minorities and continue to preach their religion by using Islamic symbols ,in past govt also removed the condition of Khatm e Nabovat from Hajj forms to benefit them as minorities cannot perform Hajj ,all these proceedings show that they actually want to achieve their other objective which is to convert poor Muslims in Pakistan to their religion by offering them huge money and foreign visas like they did in past

You sound like a Bible bashing redneck like we have here in America. Which shouldn't be surprising because you have a lot in common with them, ignorance being one of those commonalities.

 

[Moonlight]

Ismailis think they're Muslims. But they've been declared non Muslims by Pakistani law back in 1980s. So why are you complaining????

It’s a branch of a whole big second prominent sect. That makes no sense to compare them with Qaydanis.

 

[ali_raza]

because there is a consensus among the muslim ummah on them just like the consensus was reached for the qadiyanis.

neither the bahai caliph nor the ismaili imam have done takfeer on Muslims in Pakistan nor their appointees.

buddy a simple question
r u qadiani?

 

[El Sidd]

buddy a simple question
r u qadiani?

no

What kind of governance you want dead?
A person sitting in the capital developing that capital and that not too goods while the whole province goes down hill. And not even talk about other provinces.
They are doing the best they can. You can do everything with money. In Feb there was local bodies election.. They would come after this carona scare. Besides as government have money they can spend more on improving the existing schools and hospitals. And as income increase built.
We are 7th largest milk producing country and unable to even produce enough that it prices go down like 50.per liter. We do not even produce butter that it is cheaply avaliable. We do not even sow lentils. We cannot even make meat cheap. In every country the basic things they consume are dirt cheap.
And this is a mechanism. If policies would be right now, 10 years below the line we would try to See some improvement.
Every district should develop own its own with its capital city as head quarters and surrounding cities and villages vice versa. And so is the local bodies system that is going to come.
Pm and even cm cannot come to built an ordinary road in some remote place. That's why our cities and in short governance standards have fallen. Look at Iran their governance is excellent. Not because of an 3xcellent leader. But because of an excellent system I choose to give example of Iran not out of love but out of comparison of both been poor and a sactioned etc. Even a bad ruler comes there the instructions continue to work for their districts. This current system of a single cm controlling everything has led to deterioration of dirty cities, bad infrastructure and no proper sweage and other facilities. Also no health and education facilities.

and your solution is keeping the current system going with a beautiful face?

 

[Moonlight]

@jaibi @Slav Defence this thread should be locked now.