Govt Approves Inclusion Of Qadianis In National Commission For Minorities

[Pakistansdefender]

So Sindh is waiting for Iran?

There is proper lockdown in Sindh.

Sindh has ppp government that would fight to death for 18th amendment? Right.
And now you don't want 18th amendment to go and want federation to do everything?
Not possible.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

Because "they" are yet to admit that they are a minority. According to their rehtoric, it is the others i.e. Shia + Sunni who are non-Muslims. Qadianis need to stop being confused, and pick a side.

Ismailis think they're Muslims. But they've been declared non Muslims by Pakistani law back in 1980s. So why are you complaining????

 

[El Sidd]

What the **** do you mean the same Option, they've been undeclared since the creation of Pakistan's constitution. They've been labled as non Muslim but denied the label of minority

Are you so ignorant in your hatred that you're trying to justify having then on Limbo till the day of judgment????

Just put those mofos in the minority list if you're not going to make them Muslims, and they're not Muslims so then they automatically are minorities.

That's like saying this person is #1 but that person isn't #2 but he isn't #1 either.

You can point out what are the benefits as per law between the two.

Or any particular benefit between a declared religious minority versus undeclared religious minority.

We are not interested in British protectionism when it comes to exploitation of the people by tribal cults.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

When you fill a form there is an option of others.

What beneficial corruption scheme do the Qadiyanis intend to achieve by this? There is simply no debate as to why this lawmaking was needed and to tackle what governance issue borne out of the simple fact that cults don't get religion status in Pakistan.

Beta ismailis and Baha'i are both considered cults and offshoots from mainstream Islam. Yet they are both considered minorities by Pakistani Law. So stop b!itching please

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

i think after govt such action to favor qadyanis unjustly more people will gather in mosques as it seems that govt want to end freedom of Muslims for prayers but want to give this to qadyanis which cannot be tolerated and we will protect our religious freedom at any cost

You sound like a Bible bashing redneck like we have here in America. Which shouldn't be surprising because you have a lot in common with them, ignorance being one of those commonalities.

 

[El Sidd]

Sindh has ppp government that would fight to death for 18th amendment? Right.
And now you don't want 18th amendment to go and want federation to do everything?
Not possible.

any and every system works if you want it to work.

good that you bring amendment. will this be a constitutional amendment or executive ordinance by the rahem dil hatem tai badshah e taunsa?

 

[Pakistansdefender]

Ismailis think they're Muslims. But they've been declared non Muslims by Pakistani law back in 1980s. So why are you complaining????

Ismalis are not. They are sect of Shia and are Muslims. Please don't say this majority of gilgit baltistan is ismali. Please they are total Muslims even better then us.

 

[El Sidd]

Beta ismailis and Baha'i are both considered cults and offshoots from mainstream Islam. Yet they are both considered minorities by Pakistani Law. So stop b!itching please

That is a matter of parliament debate now for qadiyanis that boat sailed away long time ago.

even agha khanis were lucky enough.

stop provoking Muslims for mere fun

 

[Pakistansdefender]

any and every system works if you want it to work.

good that you bring amendment. will this be a constitutional amendment or executive ordinance by the rahem dil hatem tai badshah e taunsa?

You better know you have inside information. But I hope it goes anyway m

That is a matter of parliament debate now for qadiyanis that boat sailed away long time ago.

even agha khanis were lucky enough.

stop provoking Muslims for mere fun

Please go and read something about bahaia. They have nothing to do with Islam. They are something like qadiyanis. But originated in Iran with their own prophet.
But they don't claim Islam or something. Where as Ismalis are a sect of Shia. They have an imam. And they follow shia practices mostly.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

You can point out what are the benefits as per law between the two.

Or any particular benefit between a declared religious minority versus undeclared religious minority.

We are not interested in British protectionism when it comes to exploitation of the people by tribal cults.

What about ismailis and Baha'i then??? They are cults that were offshoots from mainstream Islam and yet we declared them minorities long time ago. So why don't we just declare qadianis as minorities. No religion is above Humanity. Just because they are gumrah and Kafir doesn't mean we don't give them the rights and freedom of minorities as they deserve.

 

[El Sidd]

You better know you have inside information. But I hope it goes anyway m

Maybe Government simply wants to give up?

maybe Khan is best being an opposition leader who can make others work that way cause he ain't sure got no idea how Pakistanis work.

Khan thinks he lives in some idyllic 70s hippie island.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

Ismalis are not. They are sect of Shia and are Muslims. Please don't say this majority of gilgit baltistan is ismali. Please they are total Muslims even better then us.

Ismailis were declared non Muslim by Pakistani Law back in the 80s mate. Ask you father or mother. You probably weren't old enough to know that. So what justification do you give now? Ismailis religion is very far off from Shia Islam to the point that even Iran considers in an offshoot cult just like alawites of Syria, they are also considered non Muslims by the wider Muslim community. Go do your research and study before making an argument please kid

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

That is a matter of parliament debate now for qadiyanis that boat sailed away long time ago.

even agha khanis were lucky enough.

stop provoking Muslims for mere fun

You're a known troll and you want to tell me about provocation??? [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Everyone here calls you a troll so let's not throw stones while in a glass house

 

[Pakistansdefender]

Maybe Government simply wants to give up?

maybe Khan is best being an opposition leader who can make others work that way cause he ain't sure got no idea how Pakistanis work.

Khan thinks he lives in some idyllic 70s hippie island.

Maybe the same is true for you.
You people just don't have the idea of the outside world with so much immersed in your own pathetic lives and daily activities. A common was not even have the capacity to even pass on these big judgements. The issues are too big and the way forwards is too tough. Nothing could be achieved unless working hard. 2 generations die working hard so that the third one would be prosperous. That how the world works. Besides confused as the product of this nation unable to. Understand if Marshall Law is better or democracy. Or if democracy is better then what form. Unable to even run local bodies. Unable to even become a nation. Unable to even decide on moon sighting. The berelvis would kill wahabis and the wahabis would kill berelvis. Extremist mindset still perivail. Everyone want everything on a hot plate. We are no dubai. We have no natural resources of yet. We have to work hard like turkey.

 

[El Sidd]

What about ismailis and Baha'i then??? They are cults that were offshoots from mainstream Islam and yet we declared them minorities long time ago. So why don't we just declare qadianis as minorities. No religion is above Humanity. Just because they are gumrah and Kafir doesn't mean we don't give them the rights and freedom of minorities as they deserve.

why don't you point out those rights that you think are missing. if this distinction is so well important. it begs the question what exactly are they being deprived off by other domination.

simple question this. even the courts will ask this.

Bahais and Alevis and Ismailis are a settled issue within the community. Pakistan strictly defines what constitutes a Muslim in legal islamic jurisprudence.

Islamic Ideology council can however guide you better in this regard. Their first caliph declared all Muslims as Kafirs after they rejected the message of his father, founder of the cult of Qadiyan.