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Good Governance; Lahoris been served, horse, donkey, dog and also Pig's meat !

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This is not govt's fault ... They caught culprits now they will be surely punished but there is a problem that as a nation we are theif, looters and corrupt ... These things would not be fixed if we won't ...........
 
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oh damn the meat to be sold is supposed to passed by veterinary doctor ?

Yes, it is supposed to be passed. Procedure is that veterinary doctor inspects the animal and clears it for slaughter only in approved government slaughter centers. Meat is then stamped by veterinary department before it can be sold to public. Many here may not be aware of this but when you buy meat, you are suppose to check it has been stamped by officials.

Problem comes when sub-standard or dead meat is produced and supplied to eateries directly. A person eating at a restaurant has no way of knowing if meat is hygienic or even Halal. Pakistanis love to eat meat and higher demand and inefficiency of government officials drives such heinous business. Inefficiency has its roots in so called democratic system of Pakistan. Here is how it works.

Veterinary department is under respective provincial governments but their check and balance is under local governments or district governments. A very fair system indeed. However our so called democratic leaders have been so inefficient that they dread local government elections. Despite the fact that constitution of Pakistan bounds them to hold local elections, they have refused to do so. If they do they will lose and new generation of politicians will start to emerge, threatening their political future. In immediate terms, they will lose control of resources at the disposal of district government bodies. There is more to it. All democratic (so called) leaders have great business empires in Pakistan. For example Sharifs have Sugar mills, food factories, farms and steel factories. Say they have a sugar mill in a specific district. When sugar cane crop is ready reach winter, they will impose a ban on that district that no farmer can take its produce outside the district or pay at least a hefty fee for it. In the absence of local government, these orders are executed by government officials who are from executive branch and working directly under provincial or federal government. Farmers are stuck now. They are forced to sell their produce at a Sharif family factory at meager price or risk losing it all (Sugar cane can not be stored. It starts losing weight due to water evaporation immediately after harvest). So this is the real face of democracy in Pakistan and that is why people hate it so much.

A common man doesn't give a damn about democratic ideals or some fancy human right utopia or minority rights. He wants his future secured and his rights to make a living protected and that is what military ensures when it comes to rule. People see immediate changes and economic freedom. These stupid bans are withdrawn immediately on military orders and a crack down ensues on corrupt officials and factory owners. Soldiers are visible to them ensuring they are not exploited. Like the meat matter we are talking about, well it was most strictly ensured in Gen Zia time. He may be a bigot and fundamentalists but country has seen fastest economic growth in his time. He was ruthless when it came to such cases or cases like rape. For example a single child rape case in a district occurred and he brought entire state machinery to task. Arrest was made within 24 hrs, case in court in 3 days, court conviction in a week and appeal thrown out within 3 days. Don't get me wrong here, he has done great damage to our society. But if you think from a common man's perspective, it is the military that delivers and the politicians which rob him his future. Why would he not support military?
 
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Yes, it is supposed to be passed. Procedure is that veterinary doctor inspects the animal and clears it for slaughter only in approved government slaughter centers. Meat is then stamped by veterinary department before it can be sold to public. Many here may not be aware of this but when you buy meat, you are suppose to check it has been stamped by officials.

Problem comes when sub-standard or dead meat is produced and supplied to eateries directly. A person eating at a restaurant has no way of knowing if meat is hygienic or even Halal. Pakistanis love to eat meat and higher demand and inefficiency of government officials drives such heinous business. Inefficiency has its roots in so called democratic system of Pakistan. Here is how it works.

Veterinary department is under respective provincial governments but their check and balance is under local governments or district governments. A very fair system indeed. However our so called democratic leaders have been so inefficient that they dread local government elections. Despite the fact that constitution of Pakistan bounds them to hold local elections, they have refused to do so. If they do they will lose and new generation of politicians will start to emerge, threatening their political future. In immediate terms, they will lose control of resources at the disposal of district government bodies. There is more to it. All democratic (so called) leaders have great business empires in Pakistan. For example Sharifs have Sugar mills, food factories, farms and steel factories. Say they have a sugar mill in a specific district. When sugar cane crop is ready reach winter, they will impose a ban on that district that no farmer can take its produce outside the district or pay at least a hefty fee for it. In the absence of local government, these orders are executed by government officials who are from executive branch and working directly under provincial or federal government. Farmers are stuck now. They are forced to sell their produce at a Sharif family factory at meager price or risk losing it all (Sugar cane can not be stored. It starts losing weight due to water evaporation immediately after harvest). So this is the real face of democracy in Pakistan and that is why people hate it so much.

A common man doesn't give a damn about democratic ideals or some fancy human right utopia or minority rights. He wants his future secured and his rights to make a living protected and that is what military ensures when it comes to rule. People see immediate changes and economic freedom. These stupid bans are withdrawn immediately on military orders and a crack down ensues on corrupt officials and factory owners. Soldiers are visible to them ensuring they are not exploited. Like the meat matter we are talking about, well it was most strictly ensured in Gen Zia time. He may be a bigot and fundamentalists but country has seen fastest economic growth in his time. He was ruthless when it came to such cases or cases like rape. For example a single child rape case in a district occurred and he brought entire state machinery to task. Arrest was made within 24 hrs, case in court in 3 days, court conviction in a week and appeal thrown out within 3 days. Don't get me wrong here, he has done great damage to our society. But if you think from a common man's perspective, it is the military that delivers and the politicians which rob him his future. Why would he not support military?


well these corrupt greedy leaders are common in our continent and they have spoilt the well entrenched system of governance and general public is sufferer here
 
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مسلم لیگ نواز کے حمایتی جو قیمے والے نان کھاتے ہیں اس میں گائے کے گوشت کی جگہ سور کا گوشت ہوتا ہے۔ عائشہ ممتاز
 
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Why discriminate against Horse, Donkey, Dogs and Pigs? Pakistanis of all people should understand that, they were the most outraged over beef ban in India and were all about the consumption of whats considered to be a "taboo meat".

And there's the fox sneaking into the hen house. I was wondering who would be the first to broach this angle.
 
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Why discriminate against Horse, Donkey, Dogs and Pigs? Pakistanis of all people should understand that, they were the most outraged over beef ban in India and were all about the consumption of whats considered to be a "taboo meat".

Completely agree. We need to bring back those Donkey, Horse, Dog and Pig butchers whose businesses we coldly shut down solely because we prefer beef. At the same time, we must definitely get rid of that jail sentence on slaughtering any of those animals too! The gall of the Pakistani people!
 
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@Leader sometimes i dont get you- so haram meat is sold in lahore markets- who is catching them PTI food authority?-
awareness nai cha hiyea? :o:

Yeh haal hai apni kaum ka....Awareness and shame gai bhar mein PTI par chalang mar lo :unsure:

Only when awareness is established would people push for sanitation or out of shame hi sahi!
 
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Mein yeh tabb say use karr raha hoon jabb Pakistan aur India nay internet ka moonh bhee nahin' dekha tha!

Therefore it maybe that Jana G was using my dialogue! :D
Ye taqiya kalam hamre famous serioul Shaktimaan ke evil Dr. Jackal ka tha.:D
 
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Even in India Muslim butchers sometimes mix mutton with beef and sell it..Hindus generally don't eat mutton biryani in a Muslim hotel or restaurant.

But donkey meat?yaak..didn't Arabs use to eat it? Don't Pakistanis try to emulate Arabs by eating camel meat..then what's wrong in eating donkey meat...one more thing doesn't pig meat look much different to beef or mutton?I saw pig curry..pieces are soft..you can easily identify them...

Such corrupt traders are there in Hindus too but you will hardly find a Hindu butcher selling beef calling it mutton.
 
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مسلم لیگ نواز کے حمایتی جو قیمے والے نان کھاتے ہیں اس میں گائے کے گوشت کی جگہ سور کا گوشت ہوتا ہے۔ عائشہ ممتاز
Pls post link where you get this..evyen kisi kaam naam quote ker ke apna ghusa nahien nikaltey

Even in India Muslim butchers sometimes mix mutton with beef and sell it..Hindus generally don't eat mutton biryani in a Muslim hotel or restaurant.

But donkey meat?yaak..didn't Arabs use to eat it? Don't Pakistanis try to emulate Arabs by eating camel meat..then what's wrong in eating donkey meat...one more thing doesn't pig meat look much different to beef or mutton?I saw pig curry..pieces are soft..you can easily identify them...

Such corrupt traders are there in Hindus too but you will hardly find a Hindu butcher selling beef calling it mutton.
@WAJsal @Slav Defence @Irfan Baloch @Jango @Horus
Kindly close this thread for further replies. Topic is giving Indian members a chance to mock Pakistan and Islam
Kindly treat this person @dravidianhero
 
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مسلم لیگ نواز کے حمایتی جو قیمے والے نان کھاتے ہیں اس میں گائے کے گوشت کی جگہ سور کا گوشت ہوتا ہے۔ عائشہ ممتاز
کھانے دو نا بھائ... تےرا کیا بگھاڈ دیرے وہ لوگ...تم کو مجبور کرکے تو نہی کھلا رہے ہے نا
 
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Pakistanis are getting what they deserve. Last time when I was in Islamabad, I did not eat outside knowing all too well what is going on at these eateries.

Someone remembers this Alif Noon episode on chicken shop?

 
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awareness nai cha hiyea? :o:

Yeh haal hai apni kaum ka....Awareness and shame gai bhar mein PTI par chalang mar lo :unsure:

Only when awareness is established would people push for sanitation or out of shame hi sahi!
bibi awareness k liye kisi per tanz kerna zarori hai?-
OP ki post perhlo us mien saaf saaf likha hai " no wonder why some people support PMLN. the reason is evidently clean now !! " - what reason it could be?- you tell me ... only relation i can find is as the people supporting PMLN like to eat such haram stuff thats why they vote for PMLN- khuda khouf kero bibi-
 
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... only relation i can find is as the people supporting PMLN like to eat such haram stuff thats why they vote for PMLN- khuda khouf kero bibi-
Nope, what it suggests is those who happen to eat haram tend to support PML(N).
 
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