Glavin: Squeezed by China and Trump, Canada must rewrite foreign policy – fast

[Chinese-Dragon]

But isn't China doing the same thing for quite sometime now? All those disappeared people?

What, kidnapping Canadian citizens for the purposes of getting trade benefits?

Well those two Canadian citizens that China has arrested do not have anything to do with politics, it is purely a law and order issue. China's retaliation will come later.

Trump made that statement in the context if she is found guilty, there can be leeway in her sentencing (given AG is appointed by the president and is responsible for filing the maximum sentence sought by the prosecution).

Even assuming that context is correct, that leeway is based on gaining political benefits in the ongoing trade negotiations.

So it is therefore not solely an issue of law and order (as Canada falsely claimed), but in fact it serves the purposes of furthering political and trade negotiations.

They haven't produced any evidence so far

They also haven't produced any evidence for Huawei's supposed "connections" to the Chinese Government, apart from the fact that the founder of Huawei is ex-PLA. Which is hilarious, are ex-soldiers not allowed to start companies now?

 

[艹艹艹]

They also haven't produced any evidence for Huawei's supposed "connections" to the Chinese Government, apart from the fact that the founder of Huawei is ex-PLA. Which is hilarious, are ex-soldiers not allowed to start companies now?

Then indians should throw away all electronic products, Jack ma is a communist, India should ban alibaba's investment.

 

[Nilgiri]

Even assuming that context is correct, that leeway is based on gaining political benefits in the ongoing trade negotiations.

So it is therefore not solely an issue of law and order (as Canada falsely claimed), but in fact it serves the purposes of furthering political and trade negotiations.

There is no "assumption" here...that is literally what it is.

Country A lays charges against an individual (for breaking its law) (done)

Country A has extradition treaty with Country B (where said individual is now located). (done)

Country A seeks extradition from Country B. (done)

Country B checks all Country A has filed in the extradition request is in accordance with its own law. (ongoing)

Trump made the statement in context to stuff far down the process (external to anything to do with Canada)....regarding potential sentencing of said individual having negotiation potential with her country of citizenship.

There was no filing in the request that mentioned trade or political negotiations with the country of citizenship of the individual. The only thing filed that Canada is processing is the extradition of the individual for the listed crime of breaking US law (and again those charges have zero mention of a trade war or political negotiation). The charges have to do with her misleading claims regarding her business in order to circumvent US law on sanctions on Iran.

 

[BringHarmony]

What, kidnapping Canadian citizens for the purposes of getting trade benefits?

Well those two Canadian citizens that China has arrested do not have anything to do with politics, it is purely a law and order issue. China's retaliation will come later.

Even before that, didn't China arrest the Chief of Interpol and his sons who were born in USA? And threatened his wife too?

And this person too?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-rights-idUSKBN17R1LV

 

[jhungary]

It is kidnapping because Donald Trump has already made it clear that Meng's arrest is to be used as a "bargaining chip" in trade negotiations.

That has nothing to do with law and order or due process. That is a political motivation.

Since when is Donald Trump a lawyer? So if you have legal problem will you look at Donald Trump for your legal aid? LOL

You said it yourself, you don't know whether or not she is guilty, so how is this "Kidnapping" according to you when you, YOURSELF, don't know if she is guilty or not with something?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Trump made the statement in context to stuff far down the process (external to anything to do with Canada)....regarding potential sentencing of said individual having negotiation potential with her country of citizenship.

Donald Trump's justice department was the one who filed the arrest warrant in the first place, and he has made it clear that it is not an issue of law and order, but an issue of gaining political and trade benefits.

I don't think they can complain when China responds in the same way. Even if Meng is released the precedent has already been set.

 

[BringHarmony]

Donald Trump's justice department was the one who filed the arrest warrant in the first place, and he has made it clear that it is not an issue of law and order, but an issue of gaining political and trade benefits.

I don't think they can complain when China responds in the same way. Even if Meng is released the precedent has already been set.

Donald trump also said he will build a beautiful wall. He said it using his personal account. Unfortunately for him, he does not decide legal matters in USA.

His ramblings are not the opinion of US justice system.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Donald trump also said he will build a beautiful wall. He said it using his personal account. Unfortunately for him, he does not decide legal matters in USA.

His ramblings are not the opinion of US justice system.

LOL the US justice system is nothing but a political tool for the rich and powerful.

Do you think the average Joe on the street would be walking free after doing what Elon Musk did (using his position as CEO to deliberately manipulate stock prices) or what Donald Trump did (caught on tape ordering Cohen to commit multiple campaign finance violations)?

When it comes to the US supreme court for example, their positions on "justice and fairness" are all about whether or not they are Democrats or Republicans. Nothing to do with actual justice. Just look at Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

 

[jhungary]

They haven't produced any evidence so far

How do you know there is no evidence? Are you a lawyer and Meng happens to be your client?

You need to have an valid arrest warrant in the US to have Interpol issue a red notice. Which mean a clause and evidence have to be suggested by the stage it was heard by Interpol. Even so, a red notice does not mean Canadian authority have to comply with the notice if Canadian authority does not agree with the warrant, so for Canada to arrest Meng, which mean whatever evidence suggested in the arrest warrant is compliable and passable by both DPP standard with Canada and Interpol.

No warrant should be issued if the Prosecution does not pass the Evidence Threshold. You don't need to be a lawyer to know that.

LOL the US justice system is nothing but a political tool for the rich and powerful.

Do you think the average Joe on the street would be walking free after doing what Elon Musk did (using his position as CEO to deliberately manipulate stock prices) or what Donald Trump did (caught on tape ordering Cohen to commit multiple campaign finance violations)?

When it comes to the US supreme court for example, their positions on "justice and fairness" are all about whether or not they are Democrats or Republicans. Nothing to do with actual justice. Just look at Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

wow, seems like you know a lot about US justice system.

Do share what you know about US Justice System, how many tier and how many circuit in charge in the US, also, can you tell me the warrant process ?

Actually, do you even know the CHINESE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM to begin with? Or any knowledge of law anywhere?

 

[BringHarmony]

LOL the US justice system is nothing but a political tool for the rich and powerful.

Do you think the average Joe on the street would be walking free after doing what Elon Musk did (using his position as CEO to deliberately manipulate stock prices) or what Donald Trump did (caught on tape ordering Cohen to commit multiple campaign finance violations)?

When it comes to the US supreme court for example, their positions on "justice and fairness" are all about whether or not they are Democrats or Republicans. Nothing to do with actual justice. Just look at Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

Isn't Meng Rich and Powerful?

 

[Feng Leng]

LOL the US justice system is nothing but a political tool for the rich and powerful.

Do you think the average Joe on the street would be walking free after doing what Elon Musk did (using his position as CEO to deliberately manipulate stock prices) or what Donald Trump did (caught on tape ordering Cohen to commit multiple campaign finance violations)?

When it comes to the US supreme court for example, their positions on "justice and fairness" are all about whether or not they are Democrats or Republicans. Nothing to do with actual justice. Just look at Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

The US justice system is full of Jews. If you are in the US system, it is a Jew rigged game.

How do you know there is no evidence? Are you a lawyer and Meng happens to be your client?

You need to have an valid arrest warrant in the US to have Interpol issue a red notice. Which mean a clause and evidence have to be suggested by the stage it was heard by Interpol. Even so, a red notice does not mean Canadian authority have to comply with the notice if Canadian authority does not agree with the warrant, so for Canada to arrest Meng, which mean whatever evidence suggested in the arrest warrant is compliable and passable by both DPP standard with Canada and Interpol.

No warrant should be issued if the Prosecution does not pass the Evidence Threshold. You don't need to be a lawyer to know that.



wow, seems like you know a lot about US justice system.

Do share what you know about US Justice System, how many tier and how many circuit in charge in the US, also, can you tell me the warrant process ?

Actually, do you even know the CHINESE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM to begin with? Or any knowledge of law anywhere?

Isn't Meng Rich and Powerful?

 

[BringHarmony]

The US justice system is full of Jews. If you are in the US system, it is a Jew rigged game.

This keeps on getting better and better.
@Chinese-Dragon If you or anyone claims aliens and crop circles in US justice system, I give up then!

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Isn't Meng Rich and Powerful?

But not a white American male, like the two examples I provided. Nor an American citizen.

And she hasn't been tried or sentenced yet either. Not that it would make much of a difference.

Trumpland has given a green light to the era of political kidnapping when a country is unable to develop their own 5G infrastructure technology. Or for any political or trade benefits in other areas.

 

[BringHarmony]

But not a white American male, like the two examples I provided. Nor an American citizen.

And she hasn't been tried or sentenced yet either. Not that it would make much of a difference.

Trumpland has given a green light to the era of political kidnapping when a country is unable to develop their own 5G infrastructure technology. Or for any political or trade benefits in other areas.

She can hire as many White Males (American or Canadian) as she want to defend her! After all its a capitalistic system. Her family already has the most expensive real estate in Canada in the richest and whitest parts of Vancouver. BTW, your post never mentioned White and Males but I guess you are of opinion that only White and Males can be 'Rich and Powerful'.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

She can hire as many White Males (American or Canadian) as she want to defend her! After all its a capitalistic system. Her family already has the most expensive real estate in Canada in the richest and whitest parts of Vancouver. BTW, your post never mentioned White and Males but I guess you are of opinion that only White and Males can be 'Rich and Powerful'.

That would be nonsensical.

Just like the US and Canada kidnapping a corporate executive during a changeover flight for the purposes of benefiting trade negotiations.

Maybe instead they should have put that effort into developing their own 5G infrastructure technology.