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Generals — theirs and ours

Yes to a certain extent, a specific section which might be the majority in this country does support him and his views.

But look at our standing and image today with such "heros".

Dont you think that history is not correctly told to pakistanis??Many things are under carpet and i see on this forum too.
you will find many other pakistanis who will say quite opposite to your opinion.

and do u believe bombing to stone age theory in starting of war on terror.?
 
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Indians fear the Generals like Hamid Gul with a nuke, who wouldn't?

Pardon the language, but a very intelligent man close to me once told me,

"If your opponent is kameena, that's not much of a trouble. If your opponent is chutia and kameena, nobody can save you."


The language is in fact necessary to understand the meaning of the sentence.
 
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Indians fear the Generals like Hamid Gul with a nuke, who wouldn't?

Pardon the language, but a very intelligent man close to me once told me,

"If your opponent is kameena, that's not much of a trouble. If your opponent is chutia and kameena, nobody can save you."


The language is in fact necessary to understand the meaning of the sentence.

yes,he talk about wiping the bangalore and other indian cities in case of war:P
 
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Dont you think that history is not correctly told to pakistanis??Many things are under carpet and i see on this forum too.
you will find many other pakistanis who will say quite opposite to your opinion.

and do u believe bombing to stone age theory in starting of war on terror.?

Well, even I learn new things from time to time and everyone will come around some time. The thing with truth is that it never dies while lies are exposed sooner than later.

Pakistan will get better and so will Pakistani's, perhaps after deep self retrospection or after complete annihilation. I hope it happens through the former rather than the latter.

Pakistan got involved in the WOT the day it allowed its soil to be used to train Mujahideens and other non-state actors. Everything else was just a continuation of the grand F up that was cooked over the last four decades.
 
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If I were you or your kind-- I would take that as a compliment... none the less, it was for those who understand...

We know how some Pakistanis use the term hindu mentality or hindu zehneeyat and with what intentions .

We have heard it enough times in Pakistani media
 
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Another way of looking at it is, it does not matter how the generals are. What matters is how the system is. And India's system has kept the army out of politics. Indian system is also less dynamic and efficient on the defence front, but is very good on the political stability front and more than makes up for the former.

Its really a chicken and egg story. One bad general with political ambitions can break the system for decades to come.
 
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The fact is..
our generals have behaved mostly like the generals of the east India company..
And treat the rest of the population like that.

India's generals have been professional and subservient to the nation...and that triumphs.. no matter how outmatched you are or not in brilliance from the other side.
When you are leaders of soldiers of the people.. you will always triumph..
When you consider yourself above all the rest.. you will always lose.

Those Pakistani military leadership types that have been professional and subservient..
have always had the love of the people.. and that of fate.
 
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General Hamid Gul is such a troll :lol:

This guy also justifies Pakistani support to the Afghan Taliban , i s aw it in the BBC documentary 'Secret Pakistan' .

I don't think what this guy does is all for money , i think he is a bit of a religious fundamentalist as well .

May i ask why there is so much difference in the view point of pakistani Generals ?

On one hand people like Talat Masood and on the other hand Hamid Gul . They come from the same society , same military system , same education system . Their skill sets must not be very different since they both reached to the highs of their profession . Then why so much difference in way of thinking ?
 
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composition of the indian army.

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This guy Gen Gul also justifies Pakistani support to the Afghan Taliban , i s aw it in the BBC documentary 'Secret Pakistan'. I don't think what this guy does is all for money , i think he is a bit of a religious fundamentalist as well .
For your info....

General Linked to Militants

Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul ran the ISI from 1987 to 1989, a time when Pakistani spies and the C.I.A. joined forces to run guns and money to Afghan militias who were battling Soviet troops in Afghanistan. After the fighting stopped, he maintained his contacts with the former mujahedeen, who would eventually transform themselves into the Taliban.

And more than two decades later, it appears that General Gul is still at work. Documents indicate that he has worked tirelessly to reactivate his old networks, employing familiar allies like Jaluluddin Haqqani and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, whose networks of thousands of fighters are responsible for waves of violence in Afghanistan.

One intelligence report describes him meeting with a group of militants in Wana, the capital of South Waziristan, in January 2009. There, he met with three senior Afghan insurgent commanders and three “older” Arab men, presumably representatives of Al Qaeda, who the report suggests were important “because they had a large security contingent with them.”

The gathering was designed to hatch a plan to avenge the death of “Zamarai,” the nom de guerre of Osama al-Kini, who had been killed days earlier by a C.I.A. drone attack. Mr. Kini had directed Qaeda operations in Pakistan and had spearheaded some of the group’s most devastating attacks.

The plot hatched in Wana that day, according to the report, (see below) involved driving a dark blue Mazda truck rigged with explosives from South Waziristan to Afghanistan’s Paktika Province, a route well known to be used by the insurgents to move weapons, suicide bombers and fighters from Pakistan.

In a show of strength, the Taliban leaders approved a plan to send 50 Arab and 50 Waziri fighters to Ghazni Province in Afghanistan, the report said. General Gul urged the Taliban commanders to focus their operations inside Afghanistan in exchange for Pakistan turning “a blind eye” to their presence in Pakistan’s tribal areas.

And turning a 'blind eye' has cost Pakistan dearly.

So much for Gul and his escapades! He can be categorized as an extremist militant up to his neck in sponsoring terror in the AFPAK region. :tdown:


The Document
 
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I would like to point out to the hypocritical Indians here,
You call us Islamist, extremists, mullahs, etc etc and now they are getting all sensitive about "hindu mentality"

Cry me a bloody river.

but then again, there is a reason the letters "h y p o c r i t i c a l" are worn out on my keyboard after joining this forum.
It is the one trait that seems to be exhibited the most by our Indian friends here.
 
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