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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023
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It would be better for Hezbollah to not to escalate the conflict to full scale war. But ready for a full scale attempt of israel and to strike them back.
All out war would be a tactical move that weakens Hezbollah by israeli attacks since air defences are not enough yet although it harms israel as well. In history our ancestors had a better strategy against mongolian invaders. They regrouped somewhere else made agreements with rivals forming alliences(Berke khan-Golden Horde, Memluks, remaining Seljuks) and strengthened themselves for the final attack instead of blindly attacking with low chance of success and commiting a kind of suicide. If Seljuks attacked immediately and blindly they would be utterly defeated with certainity and Ottoman empire would not exist even.
So there is always a margin of error and you should always ask yourself what can happen if this or that happens against me. It feels right to strike israel fully but something that feels right many times is wrong and foolish if timing and intelligence is not involved. It may be a justified action to strike back but timing and strategy may be wrong.
It is always better to use your mind than your feelings for both self development and for making tough decisions like these. Just action does not always mean the most intelligent action especially if timing and strategy is not involved in deciding for that action. As a constructive criticism generally we need to do not what feels rights but what thinks right. There should be an item of self development and self criticism under every action you take and not wait from outside to happen since you think you are rightous and taking that action feels right for you. We saw the same miscalculation in Gaza, israeli targeting of Fuad Shukur(he should have been hiding in an underground bunker instead of residence after israels imminent strike possibility after the Golan football field issue), assasination of Haniyeh and intel security breach which couldnt be found out by Iran in time. So intellect > feelings should be the norm.
Several steps will just solve the issue.
-An agreement with Iran-Russia similar to NK-Russia. Deal mainly inovling items like UAV-MiniSubs from Iran side and EW,Jet engine metallurgy and similar items from Russia. trump card will be atotal failure in this case too. Only a fool would believe anything democrats say they are controlled opposition for preparing trump under aipac control. Even if democrats win a stabilised situation in Russia-Ukraine front would evolve to a ceasefire agreement and then continue evolving with further long term negotiations instead of a nuclear scenario.
-Yemen is important they should stay silent and their location is strategically important as well. As well as Hezbollah can finish the current operation and postphone any further action saying the response to the attack is given and any future response will be in the time of their own choosing. Even if israel starts an all out attack after that Russia-Iran agreement will make them stop and return to ceasefire anyways.
-New leadership of Hamas can continue negotiations in Qatar under agreements that there wont be any strike to the leadership taking part in negotations just like they did to Haniyeh.
-Hezbollah, Houthis rearming regrouping during this time and future. If another attack happens by israel then they can start taking out starting from Golan when the time comes with better ew and sam coverage. If israel complies with the ceasefire then still dont attack improve the arms-defenses until it is almost certain that you have the means to overcome them by intellect > feelings.
Very low possibility of a peace between a free Palestine and israel after these but after isr current leadership is gone and the netenyahu team gets the trial and some peace conditions are achieved maybe years later than dont attack. But anyways in that case israel will attack first and be prepared for that as well.Without war the region will prosper and isr rivals will get stronger eventually they would not like that even if they benefit from that condition.
All out war would be a tactical move that weakens Hezbollah by israeli attacks since air defences are not enough yet although it harms israel as well. In history our ancestors had a better strategy against mongolian invaders. They regrouped somewhere else made agreements with rivals forming alliences(Berke khan-Golden Horde, Memluks, remaining Seljuks) and strengthened themselves for the final attack instead of blindly attacking with low chance of success and commiting a kind of suicide. If Seljuks attacked immediately and blindly they would be utterly defeated with certainity and Ottoman empire would not exist even.
So there is always a margin of error and you should always ask yourself what can happen if this or that happens against me. It feels right to strike israel fully but something that feels right many times is wrong and foolish if timing and intelligence is not involved. It may be a justified action to strike back but timing and strategy may be wrong.
It is always better to use your mind than your feelings for both self development and for making tough decisions like these. Just action does not always mean the most intelligent action especially if timing and strategy is not involved in deciding for that action. As a constructive criticism generally we need to do not what feels rights but what thinks right. There should be an item of self development and self criticism under every action you take and not wait from outside to happen since you think you are rightous and taking that action feels right for you. We saw the same miscalculation in Gaza, israeli targeting of Fuad Shukur(he should have been hiding in an underground bunker instead of residence after israels imminent strike possibility after the Golan football field issue), assasination of Haniyeh and intel security breach which couldnt be found out by Iran in time. So intellect > feelings should be the norm.
Several steps will just solve the issue.
-An agreement with Iran-Russia similar to NK-Russia. Deal mainly inovling items like UAV-MiniSubs from Iran side and EW,Jet engine metallurgy and similar items from Russia. trump card will be atotal failure in this case too. Only a fool would believe anything democrats say they are controlled opposition for preparing trump under aipac control. Even if democrats win a stabilised situation in Russia-Ukraine front would evolve to a ceasefire agreement and then continue evolving with further long term negotiations instead of a nuclear scenario.
-Yemen is important they should stay silent and their location is strategically important as well. As well as Hezbollah can finish the current operation and postphone any further action saying the response to the attack is given and any future response will be in the time of their own choosing. Even if israel starts an all out attack after that Russia-Iran agreement will make them stop and return to ceasefire anyways.
-New leadership of Hamas can continue negotiations in Qatar under agreements that there wont be any strike to the leadership taking part in negotations just like they did to Haniyeh.
-Hezbollah, Houthis rearming regrouping during this time and future. If another attack happens by israel then they can start taking out starting from Golan when the time comes with better ew and sam coverage. If israel complies with the ceasefire then still dont attack improve the arms-defenses until it is almost certain that you have the means to overcome them by intellect > feelings.
Very low possibility of a peace between a free Palestine and israel after these but after isr current leadership is gone and the netenyahu team gets the trial and some peace conditions are achieved maybe years later than dont attack. But anyways in that case israel will attack first and be prepared for that as well.Without war the region will prosper and isr rivals will get stronger eventually they would not like that even if they benefit from that condition.
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Another thing is israel maybe tonight or tomorrow can do a strike like they did in 6 day war. There are signs about it like they say they are directly threatened etc. Iraq Yemen resistance fighters leaders should relocate and get ready for a sudden air strike. Hezbollah and Iran is already prepared I think.
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Israel of today is made of sadistic pedophile cowardly terrorists... They are fighting a losing battle
Yes but they are technologically-financially supported by Usa in which they can higly influence politics. Through democrats they play the good cop and through republicans they play the bad cop. They are both sides of the same coin. Seeming gestures and even some moves(they can even offer some limited info about Haniyeh issue to Iran) by democrats try to create a rift between Iran and Russia and later when trump comes they will try to use that rift. Fortunately democrats have no credibility although they are now the voice of a major power. Syrian war was made to secure israel and cut the line between Iran and Hezbollah and it was done in Obama-democrat era. Chemical weapons were used by terrorists as false flags in that era. So both dems and reps are handy tools of israel. It is better not to believe them and take action accordingly or dont complain about the consequences later on.
israel can try some stuff like the 6 day war preemptive strike. Target info is given by democrats-Usa as well like in their previous operations. This week is important until things cool down and even after that secret bunkers should be built in Yemen and tunnels in Iraq for resistance leadership to take cover. Labennon and Iran has taken measures the others should too.
Also Golan heights is not recognised as israeli territory by anyone(trump recognised it but most countries dont). Just like Karabagh war Armania couldnt strike back as it is not considered as its own terriotry. Warn the civilians to move away from Golan first and then anyone can do a limited strike there. The defenses are possibly much less there as well. Golan heights can be taken back by Syria later on as well. But it is much better to rearm-regroup Hezbollah Houthis Iraq resistance and make deals with Russia for Iran. Keep the Golan heights target as a threat if israel makes a further move on Labennon, Iraq or Yemen.
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They are not Islamic nations. Muslims are a minority. Imagine, would Muslims from the Prophet's time be competing in the Olympics in France when Muslims are genocided with their help, Prophet insulted, mosques destroyed, and Quran burnt.
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The first thing that trump will do is he would order continious attacks to Hezbollah Houthis and Iraqi resistance. When Iran intervenes the conflict will spread out to Iran as well. If an agreement is made with Russia and Iran that also includes security measures provided by Russia and well thought out items in the agreement for Iran in case of a Usa threat then Iran will have deterrence against this possible future attempt as well. It seems to be the only way that will force israel to accept the ceasefire not democrats theater drama of trying to persuade israel to ceasefire and netenyahu the scapegoat not accepting it and continue the warcrimes.
Also even if democrats somehow make israel accept the ceasefire it would take some false flag rockets to Usa bases in Iraq for trump to start attacks on Iraqi resistance and then on Hezbollah and Yemen and then to include Iran as well. Even in that case an allience agreement much before that happens would be necessary.
Also even if democrats somehow make israel accept the ceasefire it would take some false flag rockets to Usa bases in Iraq for trump to start attacks on Iraqi resistance and then on Hezbollah and Yemen and then to include Iran as well. Even in that case an allience agreement much before that happens would be necessary.
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Since attack is from Lebanon, Yemen, and Iraq, they can assume their whole country is a target if they choose to do so, not just against Hezbollah, Houthi, and Iraqi resistance. These countries don't have the air defense systems and offensive missile deterrent capabilities Iran has. Lebanon is the most vulnerable.
That is why it is not the best time to attack now. Resistance and civilian population will be hurt much more than israel which is heavily defended by usa. It is best time to prepare by not trusting democrat movie actors or believe European countries who are under illusion of fake Russian threat and indirectly controlled by same power groups that control the usa. Iran should be making deals with Russia. Get the necessary technologies like ew, jet engine, metallurgy to build up defenses and offenses both inside and in Yemen Labennon Syria Iraq. It will push ceasefire and preserve peace much more than anything whether in Ukraine or in Gaza whether trump comes or dems stay. Russia will take care of Ukraine situation one way or another conventionally or nuclear. After Ru tactical nukes are used if some large scale nato cruise missile attack against Russian forces happens Ukraine will be fully targeted by nukes. No one will back Ukr since there wont be any Ukr. in that case. Trump will make peace with a conventionally pacifised Russia according to this option sacrificing Ukraine and trump will then start other campaigns in Iran or maybe against China.
The aim for support should be Uavs and naval drones mini subs joint production with Russia and even tactical bms as well like fath. Ew, Jet engine-Metallurgy, Radar tech in return from Russia. Russia already explained some items for the ceasefire. they are somewhat acceptable. On sumy and kharkiv and whole contact line there should be a buffer zone necessary for ceasefire observers and guarantor countries for Russia too not just for Ukraine. Also Ukraine will be hurt less. There can be some more positive influence for Russia with better uavs to target vehicles arms depots remote mine Ukr supply lines and not focusing on reducing Ukr manpower strategy with fabs-tos but to encircle and capture them which is much better for long term. Russia would have more flexibility. Ukraine can forcefully recruit civilian population for a long time and it is an unnecesary loss.
After ceasefire and being non nato officially and through negotiations and through solving the economic dimension of the conflict with Russia and other western countries on the table Ukr can gain some land back or even more in longer term. They are risking it with Kursk like adventures now but a new minsk deal is still possible in medium-long term in my opinion. Anything should be done on the table not on battlefield after the ceasefire.
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