Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

[Hassan Al-Somal]

I`ve never understood why the palestinians should be the ones to have to pay for what a bunch of europeans did to another bunch of europeans 80+ years ago

https://twitter.com/x/status/1726986852614246785

If you germans really feel so responsible then maybe you should take all of those jewish zionists currently occupying palestine back to europe where they truly belong and where they`ll be nice and safe and sound in their own euopean beds and more importantly they wont have to steal anyone elses bed,home,property,etc,etc,etc...

Just a thought.....

This Green party in Germany is turning out to be a weird group of people. The Germany of Helmet Kohl and Angela Markel weren't like this. Seriously, asking their citizens, immigrants, and visitors to swear allegiance to a foreign enclave that commits massacres and genocide against defenseless population? That is unbelievable. They're really shaming themselves. I hope the German people throw them out of office and put this nonsense to bed very soon.

 

[R2D2]

It could also mean the way the Palestinian resistance is fighting is completely different than how the conventional armies of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan fought in the 1960s and 1970s. This war is an asymmetric and not conventional.

In the 1967 and 1973 battles, the Egyptian, Syrian, and Jordanian forces were fighting in an open terrain. Their forces were less equipped compare to the better armed and better trained Israeli forces.

If we looked back in the 1973 war, both the US and Soviet Union were directly and indirectly supporting Israel. The Soviet Union who were expected to provide a similar or better weapons to the Arab armies weren't doing so. The SAMs they provided to the Egyptian army were limited and could not have provided better coverage beyond the Suez Canal. Most of the Egyptian army who crossed the Suez Canal and were chasing the Israeli forces did not have equate air support and air defense as well in the Sinai peninsula.

The Syrians themselves initially defeated the Israeli army and recovered most of the Golan Heights, but they were eventually overwhelmed from the air. The MIGs that Soviets provided to the Syrian army were no match to Israeli air force.

The American military - just like they're doing today in this current war on Gaza - also directly intervened in the conflict. They immediately airlifted new weapons and troops from their bases in Italy - weapons that the Egyptian and Syrian armies could not counter.

Today, the Palestinian resistance in Gaza have their backs against the wall. They have no extended terrain they could withdraw to, and they have to defend 2.3 million people who are facing genocide. So they prepared the ground by building tunnels and they're using whatever means available to them. Their houses and buildings are their trenches and they only have 2 choices: Victory or martyrdom.

They can increase the space by inviting the West Bank Palestinians and those living inside Israel and Negev Desert to join the fight. They have a chance to win.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1726995117548953960

They have no control of Northern Gaza. As a matter fact, they're taking heavy casualties in that sector in Gaza. And as time goes on, there is no way they would continually take these casualties. What they say publicly and the fighting on the ground are completely different.

 

[Gomig-21]

Common sense knowledge: Hamas didn't take the hostages back to Gaza on October 7, sometimes carrying them on motorcycles, only to return them quickly so that Israelis would truly have no inhibition, whatsoever, in even using some chemical weapons to 'smoke out Hamas' from the tunnels.

That's a great point, ma man. I hadn't thought of that but it makes all the sense in the world. The demons keep using the excuse of human shields, might as well use it with their own kind when they even do it! How many pics have we seen of the ZDF using a Palestinian boy tied to a tank turret or held in front of a walking squad? And they have the nerve to use the human shield excuse. Disgusting but great point by you regarding being smoked out of the tunnels. Yet see how the zionist demons actually care about their own citizens when they've JDAMed how many building foundations targeting those exact tunnels with possible zionist hostages? The brutal hypocrisy.

Such thoughts always remind me of a great movie I have seen multiple times--and SPOILER ALERT! So the movie is 'Black Robe' set in northern Quebec/Ontario of centuries ago. The Native Canadian tribes resisted the Christian missionaries but eventually a tribe accepted Christianity--and they became 'meek' like the Christian doctrine said. But not long after that, other Native Tribes over-ran them--finished them off as a nation/tribe! "Blessed are the meek..." indeed!!

"And the Meek shall inherit the earth" Rush 2112.

It could also mean the way the Palestinian resistance is fighting is completely different than how the conventional armies of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan fought in the 1960s and 1970s. This war is an asymmetric and not conventional.

In the 1967 and 1973 battles, the Egyptian, Syrian, and Jordanian forces were fighting in an open terrain. Their forces were less equipped compare to the better armed and better trained Israeli forces.

If we looked back in the 1973 war, both the US and Soviet Union were directly and indirectly supporting Israel. The Soviet Union who were expected to provide a similar or better weapons to the Arab armies weren't doing so. The SAMs they provided to the Egyptian army were limited and could not have provided better coverage beyond the Suez Canal. Most of the Egyptian army who crossed the Suez Canal and were chasing the Israeli forces did not have equate air support and air defense as well in the Sinai peninsula.

The Syrians themselves initially defeated the Israeli army and recovered most of the Golan Heights, but they were eventually overwhelmed from the air. The MIGs that Soviets provided to the Syrian army were no match to Israeli air force.

The American military - just like they're doing today in this current war on Gaza - also directly intervened in the conflict. They immediately airlifted new weapons and troops from their bases in Italy - weapons that the Egyptian and Syrian armies could not counter.

Today, the Palestinian resistance in Gaza have their backs against the wall. They have no extended terrain they could withdraw to, and they have to defend 2.3 million people who are facing genocide. So they prepared the ground by building tunnels and they're using whatever means available to them. Their houses and buildings are their trenches and they only have 2 choices: Victory or martyrdom.

Great post, Hassan Basha. Spot on and true. The Soviets, despite what they provided and without them Egypt would've never been able to mount even the limited goal it had, so criticizing them could easily be misconstrued as being unappreciative. But the reality is that they didn't want to give us the weapons that would make us take the entire Sinai back. To be able to fight on equal grounds because they just couldn't completely betray their own kind. Let's not sugar coat it, Russia has its own reasons to protect & pacify its Jewish population but at the same time, it needed to show that even its limited weapons could beat the Americans'. Honestly, if you look at it in a really simplistic military way, if only we had more SA-6's, we could've rolled right through Sinai in 2 days. We just didn't have enough mobile SAM systems to accompany the armor further than the limited 20km or so of the SA-2's range.

And BTW, as much as you're right about the asymmetry factor of this war, a huge part of 1973 was the battle of Suez City which I was telling @FuturePAF about earlier in this thread before the ZDF's ground invasion that Hamas has a good chance to at least inflict some serious damage on the demon force which is what happened in Suez City during the October War in 1973 when the demons tried to take the city with its tanks and the local men took up arms with the remaining 3rd Army soldiers and whatever weapons they had and beat the living daylights out of the invaders leaving scattered tanks across the city and the demons retreating in full force ending the war. That was the quintessential example of an asymmetric warfare when the local resistance did whatever it took to defend its city and people.

 

[R2D2]

Can anyone tell me what

Ya Zahraa,' 'Ya Sahib Al-Zaman

Means

Hezbollah say that before they fire ATGM

Maybe calling to the Mehdi.

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

If they attack then Turks should launch a brutal air, naval and ground assault.

You know Turkey can't do any aggressive military act against Israel.
Solution should be diplomatic and economic pressure on Israel.

According to Crooke, Iran has many many precious guided missiles dispersed with independent command centers in case of a war.
I think Crooke is alluding to a scenario where Iran is able to destroy Israel even in case Tehran is destroyed by nukes and/or Iranian leadership is decapitated. Also, in the video, Crooke briefly mentions some personal encounter when he was diplomat.

My guess is North Korea has the same doctrine--destroy Seoul with massive bombardment.

This whole scenario is stupid.
Israel will never attack Iran directly.
So Iran will have to launch first strike of Missiles on Israel from its own homeland.

Now the question is:
Can Iran launch preemptive strike on Israel?
Hell,no ! Israel and US will beat shit out of Iran and will push Iran back to stone age by heavily bombing its oil fields,nuclear sites and other economic infrastructure.
If Iran bombs Israeli civilians,then Iran will have to pay huge human cost also.
Of course,Israel will also get hits.
There are 80 million Iranians vs only 9 million Jews and from these many have dual nationalities.
Now Does attack on Israel worth it? The question is open for every one.
But just remember,Turkey, Egypt Pakistan,Arabs all can strike israel but what deters them all are aftermath consequences.

And Missiles really can't destroy the whole country.Russia has fired literally thousands of ballistic and cruise missiles on Ukraine but Ukraine is still standing there.
So Ballistic Missiles are over-hyped.
However, Missiles with Nukes are altogether different ball game.

 

[Olympus81]

Keep up the BYD movement.

Boycott all Israeli products from your daily lives.

 

[PakFactor]

One of the world’s most advanced tanks but theory and practice are two different aspects (I think) …. lol

so the merkava APS works if there's a rocket coming straight onto it? but lately i watched the hamas mujahideen video where they literally approach the tank and place a sort of like shell thing? and it exploded. i think it destroyed the APS sensors and then the second guy shot the rpg and there you go the overcooked advanced tank in the world

Not really; the APS system works by calculating the speed of the incoming projectile. It will only engage after a specific limit is bypassed. If a slow-moving drone approaches and drops, it will not employ.

 

[Haldorss]

This Green party in Germany is turning out to be a weird group of people. The Germany of Helmet Kohl and Angela Markel weren't like this. Seriously, asking their citizens, immigrants, and visitors to swear allegiance to a foreign enclave that commits massacres and genocide against defenseless population? That is unbelievable. They're really shaming themselves. I hope the German people throw them out of office and put this nonsense to bed very soon.

She's one of 5th column Anglo-Saxon liars in Germany. On full display. She said "germans" created the machinery of extermination or whatever nonsense she said, whereas in fact it was Anglo-Saxons who exterminated natives a half to one century prior to it.

Germany is under Anglo-Saxon occupation with German 5th column collaborators.

 

[Meengla]

They have no control of Northern Gaza. As a matter fact, they're taking heavy casualties in that sector in Gaza. And as time goes on, there is no way they would continually take these casualties. What they say publicly and the fighting on the ground are completely different.

Per a Tweet I saw on Jackson Hinkle channel, there were 2800+ Israeli soldiers deaths so far. Not sure if that included the October 7 and the Hezbollah inflicted deaths or not.

Hinkle has single handedly made the biggest difference in this conflict's narrative and Israelis must hate him! He demolished Ben Shapiro so much that even on the extremely popular Russell Brand show yesterday, the Comments were openly against Shapiro's hypocritic Zionist narrative. If Russell and Carson turn openly anti-Israel like Scott Ritter has then it will be a huge PR blow against Israel!!!

Here is a new one by Hinkle;

https://twitter.com/x/status/1726949067295727691

 

[-=virus=-]

Weren't you saying Palestinians should release all the hostages? Why the hell would they do that without getting something in return?? Everyone knows Israelis would have been even more brutal had there not been hostages in Gaza and Israelis are going to be even more brutal once most/all hostages, especially women and children are released.
The hostages are the Gazans' best counter-balance against Israel right now.

I still maintain they should.

This is NOT a war they're winning, going down fighting is still going down.. and look at how horrifically it is manifesting.

Some sort of multinational, maybe UN overseen mechanism to be put in place.

Return the hostages in exchange for a cessation of hostilities.

They bought a pee shooter to a gun fight, the Filistinees. At this stage this is ENTIRELY EGO DRIVEN.

This is NOT BRAVERY.

Israel, as of now, hold all the cards..

anyway, much beyond me to think up a proper solution, but this needs to stop.. sure, it may not be "Fair" .. but sometimes you gotta take your losses and stop the bleeding.

The trouble with these jihadist types is that they're too indoctrinated, "death means heaven" or whatever motivates them, it is all very selfish.

Tap out, man.. its not just you is going to die, dear Hamess fighter.. the Yahoodi monster will kill all your children. Don't try wrestle this alligator, its not bravery, it is stupidity.

 

[mulj]

South Africa has more Ghayrah than muslims countries combined excluding those that have not any relations with occupiers of Palestine

https://twitter.com/WarWatchs/status/1727007256951022016?s=20

 

[Gomig-21]

Turks will not harm women, children and non-combatants. We too obey the rules of war of Allah swt.

I just want to be sure you got that exact part in my post so there's no misunderstanding, yes?

Gomig-21 said:
Totally agree. That's the demon way also, isn't it? They use the "oh our citizens have been attacked by terrorist first so we have the right to defend ourselves" and they unleash their criminal genocide on women and babies. Well, in that case, let them get the exact taste of their own medicine. If citizens from another country want to provide aid to the poor people suffering unimaginable cruelty supported by the largest powers of the world and they get attacked, then the country whose citizens have been attacked has all the right to defend itself too! That is the BEST way to get militarily involved in helping these suffering people and then see how the demons like it. The only difference is these brave flotilla citizens will have to be sacrificed to a certain extent and Türkiye will be bashing the daylights out of the demon ziionist forces and not its women and babies and that should also give the rest of the Muslims world no excuse not to jump in and assist Türkiye in ending this genocide once and for all and hopefully forever! And if they don't, then that's it for them.

 

[kingQamaR]

Not really; the APS system works by calculating the speed of the incoming projective. It will only engage after a specific limit is bypassed. If a slow-moving drone approaches and drops, it will not employ.

since their is only one trophy pod on each side of the tank all you have to do is shoot a rpg wait 10 - 15 sec shoot another rpg and the tank is destroyed

 

[Meengla]

Can Iran launch preemptive strike on Israel?
Hell,no ! Israel and US will beat shit out of Iran and will push Iran back to stone age by heavily bombing its oil fields,nuclear sites and other economic infrastructure.
If Iran bombs Israeli civilians,then Iran will have to pay huge human cost also.
Of course,Israel will also get hits.
There are 80 million Iranians vs only 9 million Jews and from these many have dual nationalities.
Now Does attack on Israel worth it? The question is open for every one.
But just remember,Turkey, Egypt Pakistan,Arabs all can strike israel but what deters them all are aftermath consequences.
And Missiles really can't destroy the whole country.Russia has fired literally thousands of ballistic and cruise missiles on Ukraine but Ukraine is still standing there.
So Ballistic Missiles are over-hyped.
However, Missiles with Nukes are altogether different ball game.

Neither Israel nor Iran would 'preemptively' attack each other. Israel might but only if it was assured that Uncle Sam would be fully onboard--which Uncle Sam has been refusing for decades and refusing even now. Iran would not launch a 'preemptive' attack because that would force Uncle Sam's hands to join Israel; and why would Iran directly attack when the Iran proxies can do much damage with Iran's 'plausible deniability'?? You know, like Uncle Sam is fighting Russia in Ukraine: A proxy war.
And please don't compare Ukraine vs Israel: Israel is too tiny, too narrow, and too full of people with rich, pampered lifestyle and dual nationalities to absorb any Iranian missile strikes. Ukraine is a 3rd world large country full of 'tough' people and for decades of miserable life--the kind of losses Ukraine is able to take is unimaginable for Israelis.