Future snapshot of PakTurk military cooperation.

[Wolfhound]

Cut the crap. And dont make tall claims, give me one reason why LCH is inferior?

@DESERT FIGHTER you still didnt given me my answer? Problem in finding inferiority in LCH?, i can tell you inferiority is in yours, not inferiority actually, ignorance.

the only reason that the LCH is inferior is that it is immature and it is not been proven in india

 

[kaku1]

the only reason that the LCH is inferior is that it is immature and it is not been proven in india

So, T129 is mature because its a successor of A129. Then I tell you one thing LCH is also a successor of Dhruv Mk.3.

 

[Rank]

 

[Wolfhound]

So, T129 is mature because its a successor of A129. Then I tell you one thing LCH is also a successor of Dhruv Mk.3.

but it has a completely new design and engine plus avionics

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bas kar stealth,this beast no matter how good is not right for pakistan

 

[kaku1]

but it has a completely new design and engine plus avionics

Wait, so LCH has some old avionics? What type of argument is that even.

Bro, compare the stats of LCH TD-3 and TD-4 with T129, you will know what I mean to say. Even compare the engine, Service Ceiling, armament etc. In some LCH and T129 is same, and even in some LCH is much ahead.

I dont able to understand the point of @DESERT FIGHTER, that from pic how he detected who is inferior or superior. I must clap for him.

 

[Zarvan]

I believe PAF got the EWTTR from Turkey as well.....we can definitely learn a lot from a friendly NATO member....in BVR/EW/Tactics



Everyone....check this genius post.......because Pakistan might consider MI28....the Russian tech is just a prototype...but by the same logic PAKFA/T-50 prototype is state of the art Alien killer because India is considering the aircraft.

Well what if we go for MI-28 and fit Turkish Anti Tank missiles on it ?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Really !



Any backing for this claim ? If that was the case, deal would have already been signed.
Though I agree that it is the best deal of all but TOT will only be provided for the acquisition of large no of choppers, fifty at least.

Yes I can .. Can you "Google" or search this very "forum" ..

P.S: Turkiye is also developing a "mm wave radar" similar to apaches .. It's called MILDAR.. apart from T-129 the chinese are also using one on the z-10.

 

[Wolfhound]

Wait, so LCH has some old avionics? What type of argument is that even.

Bro, compare the stats of LCH TD-3 and TD-4 with T129, you will know what I mean to say. Even compare the engine, Service Ceiling, armament etc. In some LCH and T129 is same, and even in some LCH is much ahead.

I dont able to understand the point of @DESERT FIGHTER, that from pic how he detected who is inferior or superior. I must clap for him.

dude i never said that LCH has old avionics i said that it has newer avionics than the dhruv and that they(new avionics) werent fully tested in indian army. The LCH is in the same class as the t129 nobody can disapprove that

 

[Zaalim]

After the Afghan Soviet war, the Russians were left with a bad taste in their mouth. Some of their older hawks have never let it go.

The Russians have never been famous for their business ethics, as they have duped out on spare parts and serviceability on merchandise for nations that are even deemed as allies by their standards.

Right now. a contract with Russia means money vs strategic value. If Pakistan can offer the latter than maybe we have a chance with their equipment. Otherwise, in a real time conflict situation against India, the Russians can refuse us parts for hardware and we would be shit out of luck.

 

[Donatello]

Well what if we go for MI-28 and fit Turkish Anti Tank missiles on it ?

Possible....but would Turkey as a NATO member cooperate with Russia for a third party? Also, what is it so special about Turkish missiles that Russian ones don't offer?

 

[kaku1]

dude i never said that LCH has old avionics i said that it has newer avionics than the dhruv and that they(new avionics) werent fully tested in indian army. The LCH is in the same class as the t129 nobody can disapprove that

You are talking about Dhruv Mk3 and Mk4,, or Mk1 and Mk2. Yes Mk1 and Mk2 has older avionics, and even ALH role is not attack heli. So, definitely T129 armament cant be compared with ALH.

Only Mk.4 is armed, but still this will be used as utility heli.

 

[SQ8]

Apache carries guided rockets as well while Russian rockets are totally unguided. Apache weaponry is matchless.
To match Apache, If Pakistan incorporate Chinese hell-fire equivalent missile HJ-09/10 and guided rocket system (if any) to Mi-28N that would turn it into a low cost matchless alternate, even better than Apache itself.

Buts that's highly unlikely :/

the APKWS is a recent addition, as such the Hydra 70 and Hellfire were the Apache's domain.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Wait, so LCH has some old avionics? What type of argument is that even.

Bro, compare the stats of LCH TD-3 and TD-4 with T129, you will know what I mean to say. Even compare the engine, Service Ceiling, armament etc. In some LCH and T129 is same, and even in some LCH is much ahead.

I dont able to understand the point of @DESERT FIGHTER, that from pic how he detected who is inferior or superior. I must clap for him.

Are you really that retarded? T-129 would knock your LCH on the ***.. without it even knowing about it..
Armed with Utmas series missiles,stingers and A2A missiles .. MILDAR millimetre radar,advanced avionics and systems .. An advanced helmet mounted system and so on . It's much superior to the poor mans "Apache" aka LCH..

Enjoy reviewing this thread .. n buzz off:

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[Wolfhound]

Are you really that retarded? T-129 would knock your LCH on the ***.. without it even knowing about it..
Armed with Utmas series missiles,stingers and A2A missiles .. MILDAR millimetre radar,advanced avionics and systems .. An advanced helmet mounted system and so on . It's much superior to the poor mans "Apache" aka LCH..
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but only in avionics and armaments which is good because they are the most important

 

[kaku1]

Are you really that retarded? T-129 would knock your LCH on the ***.. without it even knowing about it..
Armed with Utmas series missiles,stingers and A2A missiles .. MILDAR millimetre radar,advanced avionics and systems .. An advanced helmet mounted system and so on . It's much superior to the poor mans "Apache" aka LCH..
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First thing, who the hell are you to buzz me off. Lol, Did I start to tell about LCH avionics and its armament. BTW this is the best way to prove your point. Advanced Avionics, Advanced Helmet Mounted System. Lol bro. You are really an idiot.

And seriously you showing me pic, did I start to show pic of visby?

Bro, this thread is not for you, so review it and go to hell.