Foxbat over Pakistan the facts & fiction

[Ultima Thule]

If you can't discuss something, don't devoid others of right of debate.

yes it is STUPID, USELESS, CRAPY and TROLLING thread

 

[Moon]

my bad i mean 25 question still remains though

Because as the article states they flew near Indo-Pak border area.
Never deep in our airspace.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Bhai jaan ; MIG 25 Foxbat ne JHAK NAHI mari

Masha Allah bahut LA JAWAB kaam kiya hai

Khair Ab Allah ke karam se
hamare paas bahut Umda SPY satelites aa gaye hain

Kamal kaam beta war mein tumharay mulk k oper tumhari lenay aur sonic boom ka ziada hai.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Kamal kaam beta war mein tumharay mulk k oper tumhari lenay aur sonic boom ka ziada hai.

EIther write in Urdu or English

I dont understand your Gibberish

 

[nik141993]

Because as the article states they flew near Indo-Pak border area.
Never deep in our airspace.

It flew over islamabad more than 50km inside pakistan

 

[Mukunda Murthi Rao]

One never returned back home.
And the other never flew over our airspace again.

We didnt need a fly by afterwards coz we got spy satellites.
Now we can watch ur country whenever we want. Cant do shit about it, can u?

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Because as the article states they flew near Indo-Pak border area.
Never deep in our airspace.

It flew over ISLAMABAD ; Your CAPITAL ; made a lot of NOISE ie did a sonic BOOM

Took Photographs of all Vital installations and went back

Islamabad is 50 KM inside Pakistan

 

[OrionHunter]

all the strategic assets are protected by high altitude SAMs...and fighter being present is enough to rattle any week end warrior from show boating.

Windy, which SAMs did you guys have in 1997? I'll tell you:

Crotale : Flight ceiling VT-1: 6,000 m, Mk3: 9,000 m

The rest were just MANPADS and AA guns. Needless to say, none could reach an altitude of 70,000 ft!

So your contention that your VAs/VPs were well protected by SAMs etc is incorrect. You had nothing in your inventory which could even come close to a Foxbat.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Because as the article states they flew near Indo-Pak border area.
Never deep in our airspace.

why you can't accept this fact that their MIG-25 was flew over Islamabad and we had no capability to intercept it, you live in your fantasy world

 

[Stephen Cohen]

http://twocircles.net/2009apr18/pak..._india_1998_gohar_ayub_khan.html#.V5itC9J97IU

https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan-would-have-attacked-india-in-1998.25320/

Pakistan would have attacked India in 1998: Gohar Ayub Khan



on 18 April 2009 - 7:31pm
By IANS,

Islamabad : Pakistan would have launched a full-fledged air attack had India attempted to prevent its 1998 nuclear tests, maverick politician and former foreign minister Gohar Ayub Khan says in a new book.

In the book titled "Testing Times as Foreign Minister", Khan claims that in the event of an attack by India on the nuclear test site at Chagai in Balochistan, the Pakistan Air Force would have launched attacks on pre-designated targets in India, The News reported Saturday.

Pakistan had conducted its nuclear tests May 28, 1998 in retaliation to those India conducted on the 11th and 13th of the same month.

The son of former Pakistani military dictator Field Marshal Ayub Khan, Gohar Ayub Khan had created a stir in 2005 by claiming his father had bought India's war plans for the 1965 conflict from an Indian brigadier for Rs.20,000.

The new book says that since Pakistan became a nuclear weapons state, the chances of a nuclear conflict between India and Pakistan seemed to be a very remote possibility.

However, a localised conflict, which is maintained within a certain threshold and does not lead to an open war, could not be ruled out in future.

In such a conflict, tactical nuclear weapons could be used on an army formation that had entered Pakistan was poised to cut some vital areas, Khan writes.

He also reveals he was refused permission for the Pakistan Air Force to "buzz" New Delhi in retaliation for the Indian Air Force's MiG-25 spy planes breaking the sound barrier over Islamabad while flying at a height of 72,000 feet.

"We were busy in a parliamentary party meeting in the National Assembly presided over by the prime minister when a messenger informed me that Air Chief Marshal Farooq Feroze wanted to speak to me. I went to the green line telephone (phone which scrambles conversations). He informed me that his fighters were ready to take off and enter India from three directions in retaliation to the IAF MIG-25Rs flight over Islamabad breaking the sound barrier at 72,000 ft a few days ago," Khan writes.

"He wanted the prime minister's approval. Which areas of India will you fly over, I asked and found that there was no population in their flight path. I suggested we must fly over Delhi. Get me the permission, said the air marshal.

"I went back to the committee room and informed the prime minister about the air marshal's suggested flight path and my suggestions that we fly over Delhi. No need to do either, said the prime minister. I went back and informed the air marshal to stand down," Khan writes.

He also laments that the Pakistan Air Force, citing high maintenance costs and non-availability of spares, had phased out its F-104 Starfighters, the only aircraft capable of taking on the MiG-25s.

"India had four MIG-25Rs for high altitude reconnaissance. These aircraft could climb up to 81,000 ft. Pakistan had no fighter interceptor to climb to such height nor any ground-to-air anti-aircraft missiles to shoot such a plane down. These MIG-25Rs had a free run over Pakistan's vital installations.

"The PAF had the F-104 Starfighter which were designed to intercept high-flying (MiG-25s). They could go up to a height of 81,000 ft. These fighters had been phased out some years ago. The PAF knew that the Indian Air Force (IAF) had the MIG-25Rs and as such should have maintained some F-104 Starfighters to be used as interceptors.

"The high-cost to maintain them should have been overruled as some could have been cannibalised for parts. In any case, spare parts for the F-104 were easily available from some friendly countries," Khan writes.

 

[Tamilnadu]

Islamabad is 50 KILOMETRES deep inside Pakistan ie from the Indian Border

Still They could not Intercept it

I understand that,wanted to know how they think they will shoot down the plane travels highter and faster than anything they had.

 

[Vapnope]

So what exactly Foxbot got on that mission is i would like to know? Our nuclear sites are intact last i checked.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

I understand that,wanted to know how they think they will shoot down the plane travels highter and faster than anything they had.

Only Windjammer can do that

The F 16 A / B in 1997 just had an AIM 9 Sidewinder missile and a poor radar

 

[T90TankGuy]

Let me state a fact.
F-14s, the MiG-25 killer, was pitted in aggressor exercises against Vipers. And Vipers would emerge victorious in the WVR combat.
If a Viper can track you on it's radar, or even catches a glimpse of you, your chances of survival fall heavily.

Yes yes dear, but did the PAF have the F14? or even the viper with BVR in 1990s?

 

[Moon]

It flew over islamabad more than 50km inside pakistan

Not the first time.