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Why is Pakistan Army always a winner in exercises but never on ground? I mean it has practically surrendered to the Taliban and is too scared to go into North Wazirastan, supposedly a part of Pakistan. If Pakistan Army cannot fight a rag tag army of a few thousand Taliban on its own home ground despite being the seventh largest military might in the world than what is it good for? It’s obviously a vast waste of national resources.
 
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Why is Pakistan Army always a winner in exercises but never on ground? I mean it has practically surrendered to the Taliban and is too scared to go into North Wazirastan, supposedly a part of Pakistan. If Pakistan Army cannot fight a rag tag army of a few thousand Taliban on its own home ground despite being the seventh largest military might in the world than what is it good for? It’s obviously a vast waste of national resources.

Even super power haven't won against rag tag army...
 
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Why is Pakistan Army always a winner in exercises but never on ground? I mean it has practically surrendered to the Taliban and is too scared to go into North Wazirastan, supposedly a part of Pakistan. If Pakistan Army cannot fight a rag tag army of a few thousand Taliban on its own home ground despite being the seventh largest military might in the world than what is it good for? It’s obviously a vast waste of national resources.

Its already over streched... logistic issues and no political will... meesna... instead of being a meesna use ur upper portion.

I dont know why it was necessary to bring name of Indians to the thread.

Btwn Burnol is an Indian product, which is famous in Pakistan, used to cure their burns.

Burnol is "made" in Pakistan by "Pakistani" companies aswell.
 
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Even super power haven't won against rag tag army...

I don't see any Taliban problem in California, do you? Try something on US mainland and see how much they tolerate it.

You and your false equivalence.
 
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Right - Neither US share border with Afghanistan where every tom, d!ck & harry can play proxy war :coffee:

Only Tom Dick and Harry proven to be supporting Taliban and hence fighting the proxy war are the Punjabi Army. Taliban in Afghanistan do have a lot of respect among Punjabis in Pakistan. Please don't make me quote fatwas of leading Punjab based Mullahs who have declared Afghan Taliban as Mujahideens fighting to free their land, and calling Mullah Omer their Ameer ul Momineen.

However if there really were any non-Pakistan participants in proxy war shouldn’t Punjabi Army be even keener to defend against foreign aggression and at least would have taken North Wazirastan back from them? Nothing you pro-Taliban pro-military establishment say makes any sense.
 
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Its already over streched... logistic issues and no political will...


Overstretched, how? By sitting in their luxurious Defence Housing Societies/Bahria Town bungalows, and Askari Bank/Shaheen Air offices? Isn’t it a case of trying till the last soldier and last drop of blood? After all we are talking of Pakistani soil and not about going to some foreign land.

No political will? It’s the pro army establishment right wing anchors who oppose North Wazirastan operation. It seems it’s the Army which is trying to spread this propaganda all the time to demoralise the nation into not going into North Wazirastan. Also no ‘political will’ is ever required when innocent Baluchis are killed in Baluchistan as they are not hand in hand with Army like the Taliban in North Wazirastan are. How stupid do you think the people are?
 
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Overstretched, how? By sitting in their luxurious Defence Housing Societies/Bahria Town bungalows, and Askari Bank/Shaheen Air offices? Isn’t it a case of trying till the last soldier and last drop of blood? After all we are talking of Pakistani soil and not about going to some foreign land.

DHA was created for retired officers who pay for it all through their service with DSP funds etc... and yes it wasnt planned for civilians who run to buy property there and is one of the most profitable businesses tht pays billions in taxes to the govt...same goes for all the ventures owned by Fauji foundation which was established for the welfare of the ordinary retired soldiers or the families of martyred soldiers... whom govt forgets they ever existed..... soldiers are from rural and mostly middle class backgrounds... and is the top earner n top tax paying group in the country....... as for baharia.. lol... never knew malik riaz was a "evil fauji"... as for overstreched... kiddo an army of 5 lac with 150k+ troops involved in WOT ... what do you expect? do you want them to leave border with india open and empty all the garrisons?

No political will? It’s the pro army establishment right wing anchors who oppose North Wazirastan operation. It seems it’s the Army which is trying to spread this propaganda all the time to demoralise the nation into not going into North Wazirastan. Also no ‘political will’ is ever required when innocent Baluchis are killed in Baluchistan as they are not hand in hand with Army like the Taliban in North Wazirastan are. How stupid do you think the people are?

Lol... pro establishment... ok... fair enough what about the western funded corrupt anchors who get millions of dollars n pounds n bark against the army? if the innocent govt can go visit saudi king or obama... why have they never visited the common soldier serving this ungrateful nation on some frontier and travels in unarmoured trucks n pickups? Army took action in swat ...it fought them in south waziristan... and succeeded because there was political and public support? now the politicians talk about "negotiations" and whatnot with taliban scumbag?... as for killing baluchis.. guess what "meesnay" im a baluch... and i know more about the ground relaties than some punk like you sittin in UK... Musharaf was 100% innocent... but not a devil either... in his era... baluchistan saw most of the development..... army is building schools,cadet colleges,hospitals,training centers in those areas... recruiting thousands of baluch men.. what has the political govt done on ground? except the so called "haqooq w baluchistan" package to appease the baluchistan govt?which by the way is nothing compared to what the evil army is doing... but yes i agree tht ISI did some retarded shyt... but doesnt mean tht the whole force is bad etc...


As for being stupid... not people but you and your likes surely are.
 
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Only Tom Dick and Harry proven to be supporting Taliban and hence fighting the proxy war are the Punjabi Army. Taliban in Afghanistan do have a lot of respect among Punjabis in Pakistan. Please don't make me quote fatwas of leading Punjab based Mullahs who have declared Afghan Taliban as Mujahideens fighting to free their land, and calling Mullah Omer their Ameer ul Momineen.

However if there really were any non-Pakistan participants in proxy war shouldn’t Punjabi Army be even keener to defend against foreign aggression and at least would have taken North Wazirastan back from them? Nothing you pro-Taliban pro-military establishment say makes any sense.

Our Army does little stage operations against Taliban, while Taliban continue to kill our brave soldiers our Generals are black mailing the West for billions of dollars of Aid and yet supports the Taliban in Afghanistan. Shameful Generals don't care about the lives of our civilians and our soldiers. Whole Country is running on aid and black mailing the West.
 
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