Fatwa issued after Muslim women perform aarti on Diwali in Varanasi

[Paranoid Android]

Cope?

Its all about survival of the status quo.

As long as you refer to your own people as the other. You will have an academic critique.

A Pakistani reporting on status quo of India is Ironic no!?Wo bhi regarding minority & human right!
There is no academic critic but political annotator in India.You belong to the third one,bewildered critic.

 

[El Sidd]

A Pakistani reporting on status quo of India is Ironic no!?Wo bhi regarding minority & human right!
There is no academic critic but political annotator in India.You belong to the third one,bewildered critic.

Jesi apki marzi

 

[waz]

There's a fine line between respecting a faith and partaking in its rituals.
Tawheed is central to our creed and nothing else is to be worshipped no matter what the intentions are. However the right for others to worship should be respected and facilitated.

 

[doe33]

In a few years time business will tip the scales of the foreign investors in India to ply their trade differently.

I thought you are about to bring minority & all.Disappointed

 

[El Sidd]

I thought you are about to bring minority & all.Disappointed

You expect too much

 

[Advocate Pakistan]

Jesi apki marzi

That's a first bhai

 

[Paranoid Android]

Awkward Indian moment caught on PDF.

98% Namaste people live only in India..
Not awkward for me at least.
2% highly qualified hooey can be expected

 

[El Sidd]

That's a first bhai

Their country their fate.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

people here trying to be more arab than arabs. in sri lanka it's pretty normal for everyone to celebrate each other's religious festivals. and even arab muslim men and women here celebrate christmas and what not. we think arabs are extremists but they are quite level headed compared to lions of islam from south asia

Says the urban black culture vulture. Oh the irony.

 

[RoadRunner401]

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
This phrase, called the shahada or Muslim creed, is the declaration of belief in the oneness of God and in Muhammad as His messenger.

"If anyone worships any god except Allah, they don't remain Muslim,"

She can claim to be Muslim all she wants her actions clearly show she isn't one.

 

[Advocate Pakistan]

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
This phrase, called the shahada.

That's not shahada. It is Ashadu Allah Illaha Ilalahu Wa ashadu anah Muhammadan abduhu wa rasooluhu.

 

[Areesh]

Read the article & don't try to compare anything with your fanaticism. Everybody is well aware.Keep it within your Pakistan & your comely Mullahs

This is a global muslim rule and not Pakistan specific.

Keep your bogus concept of Islam to yourself and don't shove it on Muslims.

 

[RoadRunner401]

That's not shahada. It is Ashadu Allah Illaha Ilalahu Wa ashadu anah Muhammadan abduhu wa rasooluhu.

Off-course it's not that's why it's not on the same line as the first kalima, but I see I have to spoon feed here!!!

The word of Testimony (Shahaadat)

اشْهَدُ انْ لّآ اِلهَ اِلَّا اللّهُ وَحْدَه لَا شَرِيْكَ لَه، وَ اَشْهَدُ اَنَّ مُحَمَّدً اعَبْدُهوَرَسُولُه

Ash-hadu an-La illaha ill Allahu, Wahdahu La Sharika lah, wa ash-Hadu anna Muhammadan 'abduhu wa Rasoolu

(I bear witness that no-one is worthy of worship but Allah, the One alone, without partner, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger)

 

[Joe Shearer]

@Joe Shearer

See, this is what I meant by that post on another thread many weeks back. I don't know if you remember, taking part in religious activities that directly contradict with your own. This is taking it beyond the tolerance limit and I would count it as either appeasement or total annihilation of one's identity and beliefs.

Shirk is literally the biggest Sin in Islam, would it not have been better to just be in attendance with respect instead of taking part in actually performing Aarti? Would a vegetarian partake in a meal of a goat on the occasion his Muslim neighbour or friend invites him for Eid meal? I am certain that he/she would attend, but it would not be expected of them to sacrifice their core religious/social etc ideals just to please another.

EDIT: I am not saying they have ceased to be Muslims, that's between them and God.

Your point is perfectly valid but there is more to it than that. India has been full of what you call shirk, and it has been very difficult to maintain the faith in its unadorned form. Let me return to you after doing my homework.

Agreed, they are certainly not forced. Which is a great thing in itself.

But with regards to your comparison, I don't think it's very relevant. The Christians acknowledge Abraham and his son (Peace be upon them both) as prophets and respect them already. Them celebrating Eid does not negate nor contradict any of their central religious tenants.

This on the other hand, is completely different. Although I believe this has been going on for decades.

It seems to be part and parcel of the Indian nation in their psyche. I personally don't care, I just find it interesting how appeasement, religious inclusion and existence/distortion of the individual's identity is balanced in India. My interest in it is purely academic.

If your interest in it is truly academic, then you have to start at the point that this has been going on for centuries, not decades; the way you worded it, it seems to have started under the relentless pressure of living under a majoritarian rule, when actually it originated in the retention of some of their earlier social rituals by converts from Hinduism to Islam.

You might like to look at the social history of Meos and of Kutchhi Muslims. This is as far as I go and no further.

 

[Kedardel]

Doesnt seem like, India is like an Ocean, if one part of it gets warm the same is dissipated elsewhere. In India, Every 14 Kms things start to change, your own caste gotra etc. start to have change in dialect. You are assuming negative future in coming years but we Indians have been assuming positive future on the basis of social uprisings like Anna Movements, but things dont change in India, the more they change the more they remain the same.

But you still cannot say they are being forced to.

I won't call it appeasement just like i don't call a Christian in Pakistan celebrating Eid.

As I said. We can revisit this point in about 8 years when it becomes a Hindu democracy as it was destined to be.

Then we can cry genocide or whatever.

Nobody would care by then.