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Far from bolstering generosity, a religious upbringing diminishes it

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An interesting article, to say the least:

http://www.economist.com/news/scien...ligious-upbringing-diminishes-it-matthew-2239

Religion and altruism
Matthew 22:39
Far from bolstering generosity, a religious upbringing diminishes it
From the print edition

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AN ARGUMENT often advanced for the encouragement of religion is that, to paraphrase St Matthew’s report of Jesus’s words, it leads people to love their neighbours as themselves. That would be a powerful point were it true. But is it? This was the question Jean Decety, a developmental neuroscientist at the University of Chicago, asked in a study just published in Current Biology.

Dr Decety is not the first to wonder, in a scientific way, about the connection between religion and altruism. He is, though, one of the first to do it without recourse to that standard but peculiar laboratory animal beloved of psychologists, the undergraduate student. Instead, he collaborated with researchers in Canada, China, Jordan, South Africa and Turkey, as well as with fellow Americans, to look at children aged between five and 12 and their families.

Altogether, Dr Decety and his colleagues recruited 1,170 families for their project, and focused on one child per family. Five hundred and ten of their volunteer families described themselves as Muslim, 280 as Christian, 29 as Jewish, 18 as Buddhist and 5 as Hindu. A further 323 said they were non-religious, 3 were agnostic and 2 ticked the box marked “other”.

Follow-up questions to the faithful among the sample then asked how often they engaged in religious activities, and also about spirituality in the home. That let Dr Decety calculate how religious each family was. He found that about half the children in religious households came from highly observant homes; the spiritual lives of the other half were more relaxed. He then arranged for the children to play a version of what is known to psychologists as the dictator game—an activity they use to measure altruism.

In truth, the dictator game is not much of a game, since only one of the participants actually plays it. In Dr Decety’s version, each child was presented with a collection of 30 attractive stickers and told that he or she could keep ten of them. Once a child had made his selection, the experimenter told him that there was not time to play the game with all the children at the school, but that he could, if he wished, give away some of his ten stickers to a random schoolmate who would not otherwise be able to take part. The child was then given a few minutes to decide whether he wanted to give up some of his stickers—and, if so, how many. The researchers used the number of stickers surrendered as a measure of altruism.

The upshot was that the children of non-believers were significantly more generous than those of believers. They gave away an average of 4.1 stickers. Children from a religious background gave away 3.3. And a further analysis of the two largest religious groups (Jews, Buddhists and Hindus were excluded because of their small numbers in the sample), showed no statistical difference between them. Muslim children gave away 3.2 stickers on average, while Christian children gave away 3.3. Moreover, a regression analysis on these groups of children showed that their generosity was inversely correlated with their households’ religiosity. This effect remained regardless of a family’s wealth and status (rich children were more generous than poor ones), a child’s age (older children were more generous than younger ones) or the nationality of the participant. These findings are, however, in marked contrast to parents’ assessments of their own children’s sensitivity to injustice. When asked, religious parents reported their children to be more sensitive than non-believing parents did.

This is only one result, of course. It would need to be replicated before strong conclusions could be drawn. But it is suggestive. And what it suggests is not only that what is preached by religion is not always what is practised, which would not be a surprise, but that in some unknown way the preaching makes things worse.

The negative association between religiousness and children’s altruism across the world, by Jean Decety, Jason M. Cowell, Kang Lee, Randa Mahasneh, Susan Malcolm-Smith, Bilge Selcuk and Xinyue Zhou
From the print edition: Science and technology
 
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The study isn't an end all be all, and I would bet $100 that the authors of the study would caution against using this as definitive proof.
 
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The study isn't an end all be all, and I would bet $100 that the authors of the study would caution against using this as definitive proof.

As the article states clearly:

This is only one result, of course. It would need to be replicated before strong conclusions could be drawn.
 
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I think the article is interesting because the results are totally opposite to what most people would guess.

Shah Ji,

Well said. Obviously it is really difficult topic to resarch. There are so many factors impacting an individual's views.

I respectfully say that religion itself is just a an idea.

Those who remain balanced in application of this idea. are OK folks.

Those who go too much into church, mosques, temples are usually rotten closed minded dumbos.

Peace
 
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Shah Ji,

Well said. Obviously it is really difficult topic to resarch. There are so many factors impacting an individual's views.

I respectfully say that religion itself is just a an idea.

Those who remain balanced in application of this idea. are OK folks.

Those who go too much into church, mosques, temples are usually rotten closed minded dumbos.

Peace

What the article suggests is how negatively the children learn from their families who profess to the highest religious ideals, which is opposite of what might be expected to happen. This obviously needs more study as to the causes.
 
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Those who remain balanced in application of this idea. are OK folks.

Those who go too much into church, mosques, temples are usually rotten closed minded dumbos.

Peace

I like this remark & must confess I did not expect such a remark from a poster here.

@ Subject , the religion we teach has two flaws :

1. Its not taught completely - portions where respect for other religions are mentioned are glossed over or delibrately covered.

2. Instead of us cohabiting the earth with other religions on an equal platform, the impression given is ' our' religion is way ahead of the rest & those who do not follow our religion are not good enough to be considered equals.
 
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Instead of us cohabiting the earth with other religions on an equal platform, the impression given is ' our' religion is way ahead of the rest & those who do not follow our religion are not good enough to be considered equals.

Life is not equal. I might consider a number of people not my equal, with our faiths playing no role.

But there is a difference between considering someone not your equal and going your way or being benign and helpful (even condescending) and the other extreme of being in his face and space.

Friction arises when the space disappears.
 
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I can tell about myself. When I feel good about myself, I am more generous. Alcohol also affect it sometimes, if I am a bit drunk I am more likely to give money to buskers. (which also means I am feeling good about myself).

On other hand if I am upset, feeling poor compared to others, I become mean, jealous, vindictive.
However deeply religious people might be donating more than others out of obligation/return on investment after death .
 
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Rocking with friends. Scorpions.

Alcohol , no drugs.

Nose in control.
 
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What about children raised in non religious household, specially Atheists? I have come across so many Atheists and the amount of hate they carry for anyone with belief is surprising, they are arrogant, they think are smarter then the rest of humanity and that the world owes them something.They look down upon people who believe in God. How is it any different from religious bigots?
 
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