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FAIL - Indians put wreckage of their own aircraft stated as PAF F-6....

Good. Now read the Karachi Agreement very carefully and understand it in the legality as an International treaty and not as what you perceive. Show me anywhere where 'working boundary' exists in ANY treaty signed by both nations. The ceasefire line starts at Manawar in Poonch. South of it, Pakistan never challenged it. It was a major blunder on your part. Hence you are trying to label something called working boundary, an attempt to unilaterally renege on your agreement.

Have posted about it a number of times. Read it there. Off topic here.

Speak to @Waqkz why he did not elaborate on it.

This is my last communication to you on this.



Bro, it is false. Simple summation of my post. I WAS LAUGHING AT THE IDIOCY OF WHOSOEVER PUT A MIG-21!

And can your personalised insults.

Mate you seriously need to stop responding to every post here, specially for those who are not willing to read the context first before commenting.
 
Mate you seriously need to stop responding to every post here, specially for those who are not willing to read the context first before commenting.

Yup. His predilection was noted earlier. Confirmed today. Just was trying to give him the benefit of doubt.

Thanks
 
Good. Now read the Karachi Agreement very carefully and understand it in the legality as an International treaty and not as what you perceive. Show me anywhere where 'working boundary' exists in ANY treat signed by both nations. The ceasefire line starts at Manawar in Poonch. South of it, Pakistan never challenged it. It was a major blunder on your part. Hence you are trying to label something called working boundary, an attempt to unilaterally renege on your agreement.

Have posted about it a number of times. Read it there. Off topic here.

Speak to @Waqkz why he did not elaborate on it.

This is my last communication to you on this.



Bro, it is false. Simple summation of my post. I WAS LAUGHING AT THE IDIOCY OF WHOSOEVER PUT A MIG-21!

And can your personalised insults.
Karachi agreement was happened in Pakistan itself, so dont try to swing it as to any ''international treaty'' rhetoric...... U dont know abt an agreement which was signed in our territory more then us as to why was it signed and what was that actually all about.

It bears no real legal value none what so ever when it comes to UNSC passed resolutions on Kashmir which recognizes it as Disputed area!!!! Karachi agreement, shimla agreement or whatever, all can be thrown out of the window when it comes to international agreements!!!!!! THE REAL UN RECOGNIZED INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS!!!!!!!

Karachi agreement was a understanding b/w two countries abt a certain problem which came at a certain time period. If u dont agree with it being an agreement of mutual understanding abt a particular subject/project of a particular time then the other label is at best a bilateral agreement BUT NEVER I REPEAT NEVER AN INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT!!!!!!!! ON THE LEVEL OF AUTHORITY OF UN AND UNSC PASSED RESOLUTIONS! under the watch of all the members of UN.

That is the reason why
u guys never did what u are suggesting!!!!! The very fact that it is called LOC is because u people have claim over AJK not on northern punjab!!!!!! The understanding we reached in Tashkent i think....... When we agreed to upgrade it to LOC. That understanding was that since we both have claims over AJK and IOK hence the border b/w the two can be called LINE OF CONTROL by returning eachother territory over here too for sake of peace as we did in international borders elsewhere, punjab sectors, Rajistan sectors. Because from here the war started ie haji pir pass invasion then our response with chamb offensive and later op Gibraltar. That is why we both had agreed to go back into positions we had in feb 25 1965. Not on march or april when chamb offensive occurred.

Get yr facts right first, Now regarding South Kashmir which faces international border in northern punjab in Pakistan couldnt be called LOC because u dont have any legal claim over our territory here nor is it UN recognized disputed territory. Its a proper international border if looked from yr side, while from our side its disputed territory.

It means that both had agreed that they will concentrate on LOC for military operations and india wont launch offensive or firing on international border unless responding firing from our side or in war time situations. Thats why have u ever noticed that yr posture in south kashmir is defensive while aggressive in LOC....Even do u remember in the ceasefire clashes b/w 2012-2015 yr firing and targeting of civilians in northern punjab was criticized heavy by Pakistan, so much so that we deployed Snipers, SSG units and heavy mortars in north punjab as this specific act of yrs was seen as ''escalation of hostilities'' beyond bearable by Pakistan, hence we took UN representatives to these areas to show them the damage THE DID IN FIRING AND SHELLING ON INTERNATIONAL BORDER!!!! That is why yr Modi's 56'' chest drama and 1 kay badly 50 rhetoric by yr home minister was flopped badly since UN (Ban Ki Moon's statement) and even US had to lay the blame on u for that and had pressurized u to stop the ceasefire violations.

If u have a problem with the named ''Working Boundary'' ok then flush it down the toilet, but its significant and actual position in this LOC affair is vastly different.

Hope u got that.
 
Those are the wings of an O-1 bird dog.
Two Pakistan military O-1s were shot down during 71 war.
They were used by Pakistan military for observation purposes.

Anyways, Can anyone tell me where this is displayed?

According to the Dutch aviation society's Scramble.nl the wreckage of a Pakistan Air Force F-86F-25-NH Sabre with a serial of 51-1338 and C/N of 176-317 is preserved at Palam AF museum (parts of the wrecked aircraft).It was delivered to Pakistan under MDAP 51-13386

httpwwwscramblenl/index.php?option=com_mildb&view=search
No those don't belong to the PA Bird Dog , since all PA aircraft were in olive green, besides Bird Dog wings don't have leading edge slats. More likely those wings belong to something like the Kiran trainers of IAF.

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It is because those desplayed remains are painted over the time, and that might be the reason for the wrong marking, as due to ageing and time, those will started getting rusted, and since this is been displayed on the front gate of some millitary installation, those could not be displayed with rusty features.
:omghaha:
 
Those are the wings of an O-1 bird dog.
Two Pakistan military O-1s were shot down during 71 war.
They were used by Pakistan military for observation purposes.

Anyways, Can anyone tell me where this is displayed?

According to the Dutch aviation society's Scramble.nl the wreckage of a Pakistan Air Force F-86F-25-NH Sabre with a serial of 51-1338 and C/N of 176-317 is preserved at Palam AF museum (parts of the wrecked aircraft).It was delivered to Pakistan under MDAP 51-13386

httpwwwscramblenl/index.php?option=com_mildb&view=search

http://aasqk.yolasite.com/cessna-l-19-o1-e-bird-dog.php

Check this out.
 
should have just bought rc version jf 17 and claim it

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Reminds me of this PAF pilot clip I saw a while back in which he said " being shot down by an Indian is not possible." The Indians seem to have taken his statement to heart and started using their own jets as a war trophy lol


phsylogical breakdown leads to self harm.

funnily enuff it reminds me of irans photoshop of missiles.

This should be sent to game changer or mind games o youtube so he can make video of it.
 
Kindly post the source of you picture or the location where this plane remains is been desplayed
. My source was a good friend.. but later found the pics are already rotating on social media... This is from Jodhpur as already identified by one of the members.
 

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