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Facts About “Spy Master” Hameed Gul You Need To Know!

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If he was that popular (I think only by the Pakistan members), why didn't he took the election route? He could have easily be PM and unload his bombs on India or could have given world its second Hiroshima and Nagasaki!!
 
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People say he didn't write retired next to his name as he considered himself to be in active service of Pakistan in a personal capacity.

Fake tweets from an account run by Indians.

If he was that popular (I think only by the Pakistan members), why didn't he took the election route? He could have easily be PM and unload his bombs on India or could have given world its second Hiroshima and Nagasaki!!
 
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People say he didn't write retired next to his name as he considered himself to be in active service of Pakistan in a personal capacity.

Fake tweets from an account run by Indians.

He is not retired....... a familiar sentence
 
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If he was that popular (I think only by the Pakistan members), why didn't he took the election route? He could have easily be PM and unload his bombs on India or could have given world its second Hiroshima and Nagasaki!!
ur thoughts ends there only.u know nothing about pakistani political system.he was infact a king maker.if anyone knows exactly how strong he was

He is not retired....... a familiar sentence
yea he was not retired.he prematurely took it himself
 
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There is after all a difference between humans and sub-animals. You are expecting too much from sub-animals. Since yesterday these sub-animals are regurgitating filth unabated.
There is after all a difference between humans and sub-animals. You are expecting too much from sub-animals. Since yesterday these sub-animals are regurgitating filth unabated.


Salaams bro. There are far too many of these subhuman savages on defence.pk. Hopefully the mods can start getting rid of them. Do not like them one iota myself.
 
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According to Hamid mir, Hameed was pro Hikmat yar. Anwway Gull supported Mujahedeen against Soviets and not for their atrocities..It would be similar saying that Jinnah aur Gandhi are "fathers" of such (pakis and indian) corrupt politicians..as tehy amde congress and muslim league.. Point is , they supported people for right cause and tehy are not partners of whatsoever todays parties' crimes. Similarly, Great general supported Taliban, for unification and stability not for chaso, crimes against afghnas etc.. Afghnas were facing worse situation even before Taliban, as country already in turmoil bcz of suffering from soviet invasion and civil unrest. Taliban were just one 'bad' ruler instead of numerous bad rulers (war lords) of entire Afghnaistan. This might be the step "perceived" towards peace.
@Indus Falcon @syedali73 @Horus @Oscar

Gulbadeen Hikmatyar was one of the more sensible mujaheddin commanders & Pakistan's friend TO DATE. He currently resides in Iran. His faction was one of the first to receive US sponsored weapons, including Stingers. A moderate, and very sensible person.

His terms with the CIA were excellent as well. I'm unaware of what the position is today.

Gen. Hamid Gul was a Pakistani first, and a fierce patriot. His terms with Gulbadeen Hikmatyar were very good, and he knew his family well. Hikmatyar understood Pakistan's strategy in Afghanistan against the Soviets, and was very cooperative. Obviously Guerrilla forces are NOT disciplined standing armies, and have serious issues on the grass roots level, and they were no exception. But the leadership was one of the most cooperative, if not the most cooperative.

After the withdrawal of Soviet forces, infighting broke out between the Mujahideens, as expected, and horrible warlords emerged, this vacuum was filled by the Taliban. When this happened, Hikmatyar, gave up armed struggle, and moved to Iran and resides there till today.

What more would you like to know?

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@TaimiKhan , why did you remove my post ( seeking an answer from you ) instead of answering the question i asked ? I am raising this GHQ as well. @WebMaster Plz Make a note of this post.

If any Indian members posted a derogatory remark, he/she will be thrown out instantly.

What I said was :

#1. Why mention Indian Members , you SHOULD have used the word "members" , that would reflect the gravity of your seriousness and the need itself, rather showing a biased approach. Or can a US Member speak wrong and Get away ?

#2. The Basic Rules of PDF state that "you must be respectful". Using words like "Thrown Out", ( being a derogatory remark itself ) does not suit a Mod.

If, Being the Judge of other's Action, you yourself cant keep calm , how will you judge/monitor/moderate others. You area Mod for a reason. ( I presume that you do understand, that You are a Moderator of this FORUM , Free to act AS PER RULES )

My Sincere. Condolances. RIP Mr. Gul.
 
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Does not matter, it seems like people who run this forum are comfortable with it, if it was up to me it would have been different story.
Why you think Pakistan and Pakistanis are not respected by outsiders? It is because we ourselves do not respect our country and our people. Any sub-animal could vomit any comment about Pakistan and its people but apparently it bothers nobody unless there is an uproar. Try to ridicule 'their' country and 'their' people even the convicted mass murderers and rapists on Bharati fora and you see how quickly you are thrown out, but here as if a tournament is going on on who will sling more mud on Islam, Pakistan, and her people.

One must never forget the conversation between Allama Iqbal and Quid-e-Azam that took place in England. Allama Iqbal wanted Quid-e-Azam (who had left politics) to re-join Muslim League and lead it. Quid-e-Azam's answer was an eternal truth. He said "Hindus are incorrigible i.e. ہندو ناقابل اصلاح ہے۔ ". Whenever I get to browse this forum and read the filth vomited here, I salute to Quid-e-Azam that he had recognized them very well. After all he had 30+ years of experience working with them.
 
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Why you think Pakistan and Pakistanis are not respected by outsiders? It is because we ourselves do not respect our country and our people. Any sub-animal could vomit any comment about Pakistan and its people but apparently it bothers nobody unless there is an uproar. Try to ridicule 'their' country and 'their' people even the convicted mass murderers and rapists on Bharati fora and you see how quickly you are thrown out, but here as if a tournament is going on on who will sling more mud on Islam, Pakistan, and her people.

Wrong. The Hidden 'Victim Psycology" in your post is responsible. ou run away when your own posts are questioned, but are bold to use foul words like 'sub-animals" , how do u expect to get a better response ?

Its Newtons Third Law. Equal and opposite Reaction. Indians must be blamed, i have seen several pathetic members and they deserve to get PINK. However, Do keep in mind, that when Defence.pk started there far far more pakistani members than Indian Members, this does tell you that Initial comments , the initial firre, started from which side.
 
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Why you think Pakistan and Pakistanis are not respected by outsiders? It is because we ourselves do not respect our country and our people. Any sub-animal could vomit any comment about Pakistan and its people but apparently it bothers nobody unless there is an uproar. Try to ridicule 'their' country and 'their' people even the convicted mass murderers and rapists on Bharati fora and you see how quickly you are thrown out, but here as if a tournament is going on on who will sling more mud on Islam, Pakistan, and her people.

Well Syed Sb. sadly there is no other option then to agree with you. Well I have given up on this a long time ago, I interact here with people, it does not matter if he is Indian or Pakistani, there is no need for differentiation.

Anyways I could have pasted a DP of bikini wearing models with Hindu Gods printed on their butts but there is no point in offending so many for one idiot. And luckily my religion does not permit me to do so.

And my brotherly advice to you and other Pakistanis like you would be, while participating on this forum take out this idea of belonging to this forum from your head, it is just a forum with Pakistan attached to its name, sorry if it hurts anyone but it is what it is. Once you are clear on your association and belonging to this forum it won't hurt when you read comments of people who are supposedly some high breed Pakistanis, mainly the ones who own some big firms and who did something to Pakistani tanks when no other out of 200 million Pakistanis could do.
 
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