FACT-CHECKING: [AMRAAM] Missile shown by Indian generals was sold to Taiwan

[Telescopic Sight]

O well f-16s were near loc and bvr aim 120c has more than 100 km . azad kashmir is just 50 km wide even at its widest location which is by the way very far from where action was taking place.

So f-16 was atleast more than 50 km away . might have fired one or two from well with in pakistan at intruders. Fell inside indian occupied kashmir .

That f16 did protect those jf 17 and mirages that striked india a few minutes before.

Aim 120C doesn't prove f-16 wqs downed it only proves F-16 were atleast 70 to 100 km away.

Bvrs are fired at very long distances hence called beyond visual range.

Anyways this doesnt prove f16s went inside india .

For indian intrusion jf 17 or mirages went in. And none got shot. As per our armed forces.

what did ghafoor of the ISPR say non stop ? No F16's were invol ved. Now this is the reason why the story of the thunder was promoted so heavily. Even the videos of the pilot next to the thunder seems so unrealistic.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

what did ghafoor of the ISPR say non stop ? No F16's were invol ved. Now this is the reason why the story of the thunder was promoted so heavily. Even the videos of the pilot next to the thunder seems so unrealistic.

Since f-16 were not part of the strike team they were not a part of that operation. Since no f-16 took down any indian jets none were involved... Ofcoirse f-16s and thinders must have fired many missiles to amd fro but actually jf 17s got the kill.

Anyways truth will come out. For now we know all our f-16s are safe and india has no proof that f-16 were shot down.

I wont be surprised if that aim 120 c was from a previous engagement with indian airforce between 2005 and 2018
Or from an excercise of taiwanese egyptian israeli pakistani forces since 2015 .

That proves nothing so far.

 

[WebMaster]

I did, check post number 21, as per the same REPORT TO CONGRESS ON SALES OF SIGNIFICANT MILITARY EQUIPMENT TO FOREIGN ENTITIES FISCAL YEAR 2011, US sold RQ-4 Global Hawks to Pakistan, which we can safely say is completely wrong information. The excerpt s again taken from the similar 09 report by tribune. What I have posted is directly from DoD website.

You are relying on a 2006 year release versus 2010 release. Pakistan orders, and their orders to get sent to another country due to political situation. In this case, this order went to Taiwan. Please provide a different proof of downing F-16. This one didn't work.

 

[Telescopic Sight]

I don't think he or i are trying to prove the F16 was shot down. of

just that it was used in this clash.

ISPR DG lied.

 

[MilSpec]

You are relying on a 2006 year release versus 2010 release. Pakistan orders, and their orders to get sent to another country due to political situation. In this case, this order went to Taiwan. Please provide a different proof of downing F-16. This one didn't work.

Well reliability of the report is quite suspect, to your 2010 report, I raise you 2011 report claiming RQ4 Global hawks supplied to Pakistan
https://www.acq.osd.mil/dpap/cpic/c...itary_Equipment_to_Foreign_Entities_FY11 .pdf

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

I don't think he or i are trying to prove the F16 was shot down. of

just that it was used in this clash.

ISPR DG lied.

Yes i know indians want to prove dg ispr lies. And yes everyone hates the enemy , its human nature .

You see asif ghafoor as a demon we see many indians as well not demons more like fools. Sincerely speaking.

I mean no offense. Cuz personal attacks is not a good thing.

I hope sanity prevails and peace gets a chance.

Instead of fightng we should be improving living standards of south asian human beings

Than than firing God damn 2.3 million dollar missiles at each other.

I was surprised one missile is 2.3 million $ ffucck man!!!

U know how many schools or hospitals can be built if that one missile was not purchased? 2.3 million is alot of dollars.

United states has pakistan and india fooled . we give them so much money for these weapons since 1947 and we kill each other.

While no schools hospitals bus stops roads trains get built. Utter non sense!

 

[MilSpec]

O well f-16s were near loc and bvr aim 120c has more than 100 km . azad kashmir is just 50 km wide even at its widest location which is by the way very far from where action was taking place.

So f-16 was atleast more than 50 km away . might have fired one or two from well with in pakistan at intruders. Fell inside indian occupied kashmir .

That f16 did protect those jf 17 and mirages that striked india a few minutes before.

Aim 120C doesn't prove f-16 wqs downed it only proves F-16 were atleast 70 to 100 km away.

Bvrs are fired at very long distances hence called beyond visual range.

Anyways this doesnt prove f16s went inside india .

For indian intrusion jf 17 or mirages went in. And none got shot. As per our armed forces.

Again, In the most simple language;

AIM120C5 that was being claimed to be taiwanese is indeed part of S.No batch that came to Pakistan. Thats all the scope of my post, I dont know who shot it where, if it was a 5 km of 50, if it was a f16 of or a F7. All I clarified was the S.No was part of Pakistani order and the REPORT TO CONGRESS ON SALES OF SIGNIFICANT MILITARY EQUIPMENT TO FOREIGN ENTITIES is not accurate.

hope that helps.

 

[WebMaster]

Well reliability of the report is quite suspect, to your 2010 report, I raise you 2011 report claiming RQ4 Global hawks supplied to Pakistan
https://www.acq.osd.mil/dpap/cpic/cp/docs/DoD_Sales_of_Significant_Military_Equipment_to_Foreign_Entities_FY11 .pdf

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How do you know this relates to RQ4 and not parts? Assuming?
Cancellation and delays are quite regular. See below.

https://www.fpds.gov/ezsearch/fpdsportal?s=FPDS&indexName=awardfull&templateName=CSV&q=0007+9700++DEPARTMENT_FULL_NAME:"DEPT+OF+DEFENSE"+GLOBAL_VENDOR_NAME:"Northrop+Grumman+Corporation"+CONTRACTING_AGENCY_NAME:"DEPT+OF+THE+AIR+FORCE"&renderer=jsp&length=1411

AIM120C5 that was being claimed to be taiwanese is indeed part of S.No batch that came to Pakistan. Thats all the scope of my post

In 2006 the batch was reported to be for Pakistan. In 2010 the batch was reported to be for Taiwan.

As mentioned, project cancellations/delays/reassignments happen all the time due to political nature.

Please supply a different proof of downing F-16.

 

[MilSpec]

How do you know this relates to RQ4 and not parts? Assuming?
Cancellation and delays are quite regular. See below.

https://www.fpds.gov/ezsearch/fpdsportal?s=FPDS&indexName=awardfull&templateName=CSV&q=0007+9700++DEPARTMENT_FULL_NAME:"DEPT+OF+DEFENSE"+GLOBAL_VENDOR_NAME:"Northrop+Grumman+Corporation"+CONTRACTING_AGENCY_NAME:"DEPT+OF+THE+AIR+FORCE"&renderer=jsp&length=1411


In 2006 the batch was reported to be for Pakistan. In 2010 the batch was reported to be for Taiwan.

As mentioned, project cancellations/delays/reassignments happen all the time due to political nature.

Please supply a different proof of downing F-16.

How do i know its RQ4 _ Global Hawk and not Parts
because the report states so

If it was parts the report would state:

or

or

Thus the credibility of the report is quite suspect.

Now to address your Taiwan confusion,
no order for Aim20C5 already 100% appropriated was ever cancelled for Pakistan that I could find, I hope you understand what is meant by " This effort supports foreign military sales to Pakistan 100%. At this time, total funds have been obligated" if not it means FMS "Cha-ching"

Next Downing F16:

Lets establish some context on common sense, I haven't posted a single word about downing of any F16's.

All I have stated is the S.No FA867505C0070 is associated with order for Pakistan under P00028 which is a FMS code.

Hope that helps.

 

[Khanate]

FACT-CHECKING: Missile shown by Indian generals was sold to Taiwan

By Zeeshan Ahmad
Published: February 28, 2019

Part of a missile India claims was launched a PAF F-16. SCEREN GRAB

KARACHI: As New Delhi presented what it claimed was ‘incontrovertible proof’ that Pakistan used its F-16 fighter jets in Wednesday’s air action, a fact-checking exercise by The Express Tribune revealed that the missile remains the Indian military found in fact belonged to a missile sold by the US to Taiwan.

India’s top military brass on Thursday displayed the remains of an American-made missile as ‘absolute proof’ that the Pakistan Air Force used F-16s in aerial operations conducted the day before. Claiming that the missile could only have been launched by an F-16, the Indian generals tried to strengthen their claims that the Indian Air Force also shot down a PAF F-16 while losing a MiG-21.

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The wreckage displayed by the Indian generals identified the missile as an AIM-120C-5 AMRAAM. A crucial detail, however, appears to have been overlooked by the Indian military in their attempt to provide evidence.

Markings on the wreckage also identified the contract serial number of the missile as FA8675-05-C-0070. A Google search The Express Tribune ran using the keyword ‘AMRAAM’ along with the serial number in question returned links to a US Department of Defense (DoD) document titled “Report to Congress on Department Of Defense Sales of Significant Military Equipment to Foreign Entities Fiscal Year 2009”.

The report revealed that contract number FA867505C0070 corresponded to a batch of AIM-120C-5 AMRAAM missiles supplied to Taiwan in a Foreign Military Sale worth $2.38 million.

It should be noted that Pakistan does not recognise Taiwan as a separate entity from the People’s Republic of China and as such, does not have any diplomatic or consular relations with Taiwan.

How the wreckage of a missile sold to Taiwan ended up in the hands of an Indian military air vice marshal is something only New Delhi can explain.

A version of the report can be found on the official website of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment. It can be accessed via the following link:

https://www.acq.osd.mil/dpap/cpic/cp/docs/USA002235-10_Complete Foreign Military Sales.pdf

Of course, India is lying!

India has lied all the way through this conflict. From claims of "300-400" dead that no one can find to denying the capture of their Wing Commander while videos from Pakistan bared it all. Then came the claims of F-16 whose wreckage doesn't exist.

Truth: India failed and now you are left with face saving utterances for domestic consumption having been humiliated so thoroughly.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1101157284451893248

https://twitter.com/x/status/1100727906249179137

https://twitter.com/x/status/1100737008174026752

For reference, this is what evidence looks like:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1101127026885435396

 

[American Pakistani]

I wonder where this country exists - "Tiawan"? Maybe it is a hidden kingdom within Wakanda

Seriously...

Are you guys born like this or your modia has converted you into...

 

[Kai Liu]

Unless you show the wreckage of the plane, everything is B.S...
Remember, a Chinese torpedo could ended up in vietnam's shore... Same thing, this missile could be the one fired during an exercise or training by the PAF.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a25630315/vietnam-fisherman-chinese-torpedo/

But indians are shameless, their purpose has been achieved: fooling the public, because the general public knows nothing about military/defense unlike PDF members here...

 

[Khanate]

Seriously...

Are you guys born like this or your modia has converted you into...

There are so many videos of Indians breaking down online because reality no longer corresponds to what is being reported on the TV.

 

[farok84]

 

[Khanate]

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That's part of the problem.

India seems to think the mere presence of a condom implies rape. When we simply haven't established if a condom was used, at all, or is India parading around a used condom from a previous encounter?