F-35 to KSA ?

[KRAIT]

With so much cost over run and delays and most importantly many countries reducing the order or thinking of scrapping the deal entirely, US will happily sell it to KSA.

 

[Arabian Legend]

With so much cost over run and delays and most importantly many countries reducing the order or thinking of scrapping the deal entirely, US will happily sell it to KSA.

Its a piece of art isn't..

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

Iran's strategy was/is always defensive. Iran will not attack anyone unless being attacked.
Here you go, statistics speak louder than barking:

List of countries by military expenditures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

^ military expenditure by GDP, 2008

Their people are starving and they are focusing on military, .

60% of Saudi citizens live below poverty line: Saudi daily

Now tell me who wants war

It's funny but military budget of Iran is even less than the miniature countries of the gulf


Unfortunate but .. In Iran SA is known to be the "Iraq of future [for Iran]"

it is unfortunate it is also stupid to fight while all this threats surround us isreal US NATO and if they have the opportunity they will spare no one iraq is a good example they are snakes who would sell out their own mothers to profit and dominate the whole plant not just us

 

[Esc8781]

With so much cost over run and delays and most importantly many countries reducing the order or thinking of scrapping the deal entirely, US will happily sell it to KSA.

Except for Turkey

 

[Takaavar]

it is unfortunate it is also stupid to fight while all this threats surround us isreal US NATO and if they have the opportunity they will spare no one iraq is a good example they are snakes who would sell out their own mothers to profit and dominate the whole plant not just us

Yes in any war between us regional countries the only victors are our enemies, Iraq could be the most advanced country in the region, they even had space and nuclear programs at that time but this idiot Saddam started war with everyone and at the end just ruined the country and wasted everything and we are seeing the result

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

With 13 Trillion Dollar Budget Deficit , and economy running on fake `bail out`funds

USA needs to sell billion dollar sales .. even 4 billion in sales of F15 Deal looks penuts compare to budget deficit USA has at present ..

not sure of WOT was really worth it in end ..

 

[Al Bhatti]

Iran's strategy was/is always defensive. Iran will not attack anyone unless being attacked.
Here you go, statistics speak louder than barking:

List of countries by military expenditures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

^ military expenditure by GDP, 2008

Their people are starving and they are focusing on military, .

60% of Saudi citizens live below poverty line: Saudi daily

Now tell me who wants war

It's funny but military budget of Iran is even less than the miniature countries of the gulf


Unfortunate but .. In Iran SA is known to be the "Iraq of future [for Iran]"

Another fail by Iranian media, again

Firstly:

The headline says: "60% of Saudi citizens live below poverty line: Saudi daily"

and another sentence says

"Despite being world’s biggest crude exporter, sixty percent of the people in Saudi Arabia live below the country’s poverty line, a Saudi newspaper reported."

And in the news (in the same link) it says: "According to official figures released by Consultative Assembly of Saudi Arabia (Shura), about 22 percent of Saudi citizens - at least 3 million citizens - live below the poverty line."

Secondly:

Press TV published the news on Jul 17, 2012 and they are quoting/referring an article dated

( الأحد 01/05/1430هـ ) 26/ أبريل/2009

Here is the article that they are referring to http://www.okaz.com.sa/okaz/osf/20090426/Con20090426273153.htm


Now let us come to "mighty" Iran

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Aug 4, 2008

Millions live below the poverty line in Iran

At least 14 million Iranians live below the poverty line, according to a central bank report quoted by the press today, adding to concern about the welfare of those worst off in Iran as prices soar. The central bank figures, published in the reformist daily newspaper Sarmayeh, represent one in five of Iran's 70 million population. "If an urban family of four makes less than four million rials (USS425) a month then the family is under poverty line," it said.

In August last year, the social security and welfare minister Abdolreza Mesri said around 9.2 million people were living in poverty, 10.5 per cent of the population in cities and 11 per cent in villages. Mesri also said that two million people live in extreme poverty in Iran, earning less than 650,000 rials (S70) a month. The latest figures come at a time of increasing concern over soaring prices in Iran, which have hit the poor and state employees on low incomes particularly hard. Teachers, for example, earn less than $300 a month.

Since the Iranian new year in March, prices of basic foodstuffs, especially fresh vegetables and poultry, as well as services such as taxis have jumped. Iran's inflation rate — which has aroused much criticism of the economic policies of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad — topped 26 per cent in June, according to the central bank. President Ahmadinejad has been blamed by many economists for directly fuelling the price rises by ploughing huge amounts of cash into the economy to fund local infrastructure projects.

The government insists, however, that it has inflation under control and that booming oil receipts allow it to splash out on necessary infrastructure projects. Iran, the second biggest oil exporter in OPEC, last year enjoyed oil revenues of $60 billion in the last Iranian year to March. But there has been a sharp increase in money supply growth — a key indicator of future inflation trends — to almost 40 per cent during the years of the Ahmadinejad presidency.

He was elected in 2005 on a platform of making the poor feel the benefits of Iran's massive oil wealth, and he has made implementation of economic "justice" the main government slogan. Half of Iran's population are 26 or under. *AFP

Millions live below the poverty line in Iran - The National

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An excerpt from an article dated May 16th, 2011

In the recent weeks, some Iranian websites published a report about the economic disaster in Iran that says Half Iranian urban population are under poverty line The report adds: “44.5% to 55% of Iran’s urban population lives under the poverty line, according to a new report entitled ‘Measurement and Economic Analysis of Urban Poverty.’ The paper was presented by three senior government researchers at a conference organized two weeks ago by the national statistics center (Markazeh amareh Iran). The study provides a rare statistical glimpse into the country’s economic welfare, a topic generally treated with secrecy by the Mr. ****’s administration … The authors determined that at least 23.3 million city dwellers are under the poverty line and cannot subsist on their households’ incomes. Iran’s rural population was not included in the report. The researchers found that the average poverty line for urban households with 3.7 members is 653,000 tomans (about $650) a month if normal goods are consumed. Tehran province had the highest poverty line, 813,000 tomans (near $800) a month. Using this gauge, 55% of the country’s city dwellers are under the poverty line.

Iranians under Poverty Line « News About Iran

 

[A1Kaid]

Good luck on trying to acquire that, Israel and it's lobby in US will fight tooth and nail to prevent such a deal from going through.

 

[Zarvan]

The Saudi Defence Ministry is said to be expected to begin contacts with the Pentagon on a deal for the Lockheed Martin F-35 JSF (Joint Strike Fighter) next year. The following 418-word report sheds light on the subject and tells what about the Saudi conditions to begin contacts on the deal. It also tells what about the variant of the aircraft which the Saudis would like to acquire.

Tactical Report - Saudi Defence Ministry, the Pentagon and the F-35 JSF
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Saudi Arabia should be careful and should not compromise on the quality and standard of the place if America agrees to sell to them because they will try to change the model keeping Israel in Mind so if they try to do this kind of act than Saudi Arabia should become part of Chinese Projects

 

[Takaavar]

Another fail by Iranian media, again

Firstly:

The headline says: "60% of Saudi citizens live below poverty line: Saudi daily"

and another sentence says

"Despite being world’s biggest crude exporter, sixty percent of the people in Saudi Arabia live below the country’s poverty line, a Saudi newspaper reported."

And in the news (in the same link) it says: "According to official figures released by Consultative Assembly of Saudi Arabia (Shura), about 22 percent of Saudi citizens - at least 3 million citizens - live below the poverty line."

Secondly:

Press TV published the news on Jul 17, 2012 and they are quoting/referring an article dated

( الأحد 01/05/1430هـ ) 26/ أبريل/2009

Here is the article that they are referring to http://www.okaz.com.sa/okaz/osf/20090426/Con20090426273153.htm


Now let us come to "mighty" Iran

------

Aug 4, 2008

Millions live below the poverty line in Iran

At least 14 million Iranians live below the poverty line, according to a central bank report quoted by the press today, adding to concern about the welfare of those worst off in Iran as prices soar. The central bank figures, published in the reformist daily newspaper Sarmayeh, represent one in five of Iran's 70 million population. "If an urban family of four makes less than four million rials (USS425) a month then the family is under poverty line," it said.

In August last year, the social security and welfare minister Abdolreza Mesri said around 9.2 million people were living in poverty, 10.5 per cent of the population in cities and 11 per cent in villages. Mesri also said that two million people live in extreme poverty in Iran, earning less than 650,000 rials (S70) a month. The latest figures come at a time of increasing concern over soaring prices in Iran, which have hit the poor and state employees on low incomes particularly hard. Teachers, for example, earn less than $300 a month.

Since the Iranian new year in March, prices of basic foodstuffs, especially fresh vegetables and poultry, as well as services such as taxis have jumped. Iran's inflation rate — which has aroused much criticism of the economic policies of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad — topped 26 per cent in June, according to the central bank. President Ahmadinejad has been blamed by many economists for directly fuelling the price rises by ploughing huge amounts of cash into the economy to fund local infrastructure projects.

The government insists, however, that it has inflation under control and that booming oil receipts allow it to splash out on necessary infrastructure projects. Iran, the second biggest oil exporter in OPEC, last year enjoyed oil revenues of $60 billion in the last Iranian year to March. But there has been a sharp increase in money supply growth — a key indicator of future inflation trends — to almost 40 per cent during the years of the Ahmadinejad presidency.

He was elected in 2005 on a platform of making the poor feel the benefits of Iran's massive oil wealth, and he has made implementation of economic "justice" the main government slogan. Half of Iran's population are 26 or under. *AFP

Millions live below the poverty line in Iran - The National

---------

An excerpt from an article dated May 16th, 2011

In the recent weeks, some Iranian websites published a report about the economic disaster in Iran that says Half Iranian urban population are under poverty line The report adds: “44.5% to 55% of Iran’s urban population lives under the poverty line, according to a new report entitled ‘Measurement and Economic Analysis of Urban Poverty.’ The paper was presented by three senior government researchers at a conference organized two weeks ago by the national statistics center (Markazeh amareh Iran). The study provides a rare statistical glimpse into the country’s economic welfare, a topic generally treated with secrecy by the Mr. ****’s administration … The authors determined that at least 23.3 million city dwellers are under the poverty line and cannot subsist on their households’ incomes. Iran’s rural population was not included in the report. The researchers found that the average poverty line for urban households with 3.7 members is 653,000 tomans (about $650) a month if normal goods are consumed. Tehran province had the highest poverty line, 813,000 tomans (near $800) a month. Using this gauge, 55% of the country’s city dwellers are under the poverty line.

Iranians under Poverty Line « News About Iran

TLDR, ANYWAY people in SA don't live better than in Iran, ever, my point about the military budgets is still valid.

 

[Al Bhatti]

TLDR, ANYWAY people in SA don't live better than in Iran, ever, my point about the military budgets is still valid.

Wrong again just like the Iranian media.

 

[Arabian Legend]

Saudi Arabia should be careful and should not compromise on the quality and standard of the place if America agrees to sell to them because they will try to change the model keeping Israel in Mind so if they try to do this kind of act than Saudi Arabia should become part of Chinese Projects

exactly 100% agree with you....thats why you see saudi arabia uses variety of military equipments from different sources. forget the f-35 and think of the typhoon tranche 3 with TOT that the saudi got. China, pakistan and saudi arabia are working on another field such as missiles.. ships.. and defense systems. Saudi Arabia is always aware and wise when it comes to the security of the country using whatever it takes to achieve her aims. The saudi lobby inside the congress is also very strong competing on all aspects taking advantages of every situation that her enemy might face.
Work silently you freak your enemy

 

[Zarvan]

exactly 100% agree with you....thats why you see saudi arabia uses variety of military equipments from different sources. forget the f-35 and think of the typhoon tranche 3 with TOT that the saudi got. China, pakistan and saudi arabia are working on another field such as missiles.. ships.. and defense systems. Saudi Arabia is always aware and wise when it comes to the security of the country using whatever it takes to achieve her aims. The saudi lobby inside the congress is also very strong competing on all aspects taking advantages of every situation that her enemy might face.
Work silently you freak your enemy

Even if Saudi Arabia gets the best F-35 still they should get 50 Stealth planes from another country to and also should fast buy submarines at least 12 of them along with ballistic missiles from China and increase their Armed Forces in numbers and improve their training

 

[Arabian Legend]

Even if Saudi Arabia gets the best F-35 still they should get 50 Stealth planes from another country to and also should fast buy submarines at least 12 of them along with ballistic missiles from China and increase their Armed Forces in numbers and improve their training

My brother Imran can answer you regarding the saudi navy he has more knowledge than me he can tell you about zulfiqar for the navy and what about the submarines. also Mosa can provides some info.
I would say 8 subs would be enough. as for the training how many joint exercises have the saudi army held in the past 5 years wether air, navy and ground forces. saudis are progressing very well and that doesn't mean stopping at that level.

 

[Arabian Legend]

What sort of numbers would KSA be looking at?

personal estimate would be 60