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F-14A vs F-15I

He would probably say the same. The most powerful thing on the -14 is its radar, as hinted by the large fuselage/radome to support it. Fleet defense needed that long reach. But the -15 got pretty much the same radar size but even more sophisticated features and sensitivity. Today's Navy pilots got a taste of that on the -18SH.

Here is the deal...

You do not need a radar in order to fly and even fight, even with today's integration. The USAF Thunderbirds and USN Blue Angels flies without radars. So if all the Iranian Air Force need is to put on an image that its -14s are allegedly 'capable', then a few airshow maneuvers will do fine and enough Iranians will be convinced. But for those of us who know and are experienced in the ins and outs of daily aviation issues, it is tough for us to see how 'capable' is a fleet whose parts are no longer in production and whatever remains have not been upgraded to even try to keep up with inexorable progress.

A powerful radar is no longer an asset to be feared by an adversary but a point of exploitation by that same adversary to hide from and do a surprise attack from an unexpected corner, after all, it is no different than a beacon that screams: 'Here I am...!!!'

Today's military aviation radar is JUDICIOUSLY powerful at rare times and is not needed to assist the INS via ground markers like in the old days or my days. A smaller but much more sophisticated beam forming and controls and data processing will achieve the same goal of illuminating a long range target with superior resolutions that the -14's system cannot match.

Oh I just saw on youtube, there are a few comments that the F-14 has been used to "find" Qaher-313 (experimental stealth features).

Iran certainly has change F14A radar, so they entrusted the task of detecting Qaher-313 for it (F14A).
 
Iran Equips Fighter Jets with Anti-Missile Capability

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TEHRAN (FNA)- The Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF) officially announced that the country's fighter jets have been equipped with anti-missile capability and are now able to detect and intercept any kind of incoming missiles.

The capability was demonstrated during the third phase of the 'Fadaeeyan-e Harim-e Vellayat III' air drills in Northwestern Iran.

The development is viewed as a great achievement for the Iranian weapons and defense industry.

During the military exercises, a missile fired by an F-5 fighter jet was instantly detected and destroyed by a Mig-29 fighter jet.

The Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF) on Tuesday started the main phase of its four-staged air drills with testing hi-tech bombs and other advanced weapons systems, including various air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles.

An array of fighter jets, fighter bombers, cargo and transportation planes, including F-4, F-5, F-14, Sukhoi SU-24 fighter-bombers, Mig-29 and the logistic C-130 planes, and Saeqeh home-made fighter jets are used in the drills.

Fars News Agency :: Iran Equips Fighter Jets with Anti-Missile Capability

Fars News Agency :: Iran Equips Fighter Jets with Anti-Missile Capability

Despite being propaganda, I think they are developing such a system DIRCM on the F-35?detect and combat support A2A missiles (IR Seeker)
 
This is the old ECM system F14A (AN/ALQ-167)

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The ECA is placed in the position of the LAU-93 missile launcher (usually used for the AIM-54 missile or bomb racks) and can carry an extra pack of chaff and flare decoys. These additional chaffs and flares are used for self protection on especially critical missions such as a TARPS flights over enemy terrain. It is commonly used in addition to the AN/ALQ-167 ECM Pod.

F-14A full load

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Radar AN/AWG-9 for AIM-54 & F14A's Iran (the status of the Iranian systems is unknown, but it is believed that they are still in service. AN/AWG-9 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

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F-14D with AWG-9

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AWG-9 Radar

So with a range to compete with Zaslo,.AWG-9 radar will be the trump card with the AIM-54. F-15I final answer remains no chance of survival (RCS = 15m2).

Because TWS (Track-While-Scan for Phoenix missile targeting of up to 24 targets simultaneously within a 2-bar, 40-deg or 4-bar, 20-deg pattern, which yields a 2-sec scan rate) range of AWG-9 is 90 nm (104 miles; 167 km) with target 5-sq m.

Thus we have the formula for calculating the distance from the radar to detect the location and scope of the F-15I:

167 * (15/5) ^ (1/4) = 219 km

Information on the ability to detect targets by how many m2 of radar APG-70 (F-15I) is not specific. So we hardly confirm victory in BVR for F-15I and it is just a PESA radar. Thus F-14's Iran will have two wins in BVR and WVR :laugh:
 
Radar AN/AWG-9 for AIM-54 & F14A's Iran (the status of the Iranian systems is unknown, but it is believed that they are still in service. AN/AWG-9 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

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F-14D with AWG-9

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AWG-9 Radar

So with a range to compete with Zaslo,.AWG-9 radar will be the trump card with the AIM-54. F-15I final answer remains no chance of survival (RCS = 15m2).

Because TWS (Track-While-Scan for Phoenix missile targeting of up to 24 targets simultaneously within a 2-bar, 40-deg or 4-bar, 20-deg pattern, which yields a 2-sec scan rate) range of AWG-9 is 90 nm (104 miles; 167 km) with target 5-sq m.

Thus we have the formula for calculating the distance from the radar to detect the location and scope of the F-15I:

167 * (15/5) ^ (1/4) = 219 km

Information on the ability to detect targets by how many m2 of radar APG-70 (F-15I) is not specific. So we hardly confirm victory in BVR for F-15I and it is just a PESA radar. Thus F-14's Iran will have two wins in BVR and WVR
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You do not understand even the basics of radar detection and here you are making a fool out of yourself making pronouncements about radar cross section.

Radar Cross Section (RCS) depends on a combination of freq employed, the target's aspect angle, the target's overall size, and distance. There are more lesser factors involved but those four are the main. The F-14's RCS is just as large if not even larger than the F-15's based upon those four main factors and that the APG-70 is a much superior system in terms of technology and data processing.

Might as well call the MIG-21 better than the F-15. But then I would not be surprised if you actually believe it.
 
F-15 can't challenge with iranian tomcat...

Actually ... it can ... simply our F14 have no chance against their F15 , especially if they have Awax support ...

our F14 only chance is to stay in our air zone and use ground radar and Anti Aircraft systems support ... other wise ...
 
You do not understand even the basics of radar detection and here you are making a fool out of yourself making pronouncements about radar cross section.

Radar Cross Section (RCS) depends on a combination of freq employed, the target's aspect angle, the target's overall size, and distance. There are more lesser factors involved but those four are the main. The F-14's RCS is just as large if not even larger than the F-15's based upon those four main factors and that the APG-70 is a much superior system in terms of technology and data processing.

Might as well call the MIG-21 better than the F-15. But then I would not be surprised if you actually believe it.

I have read in F-16.net a guy say that the F-16 with small RCS and the ability to carry the decoys MALD-J can threaten Su-30 or F-15.

My RCS formula has been popular all over the internet forums, you do not need to worry about the authenticity of it. F-15 RCS is always in class 10-15m2 you can not deny it.F-15I is no exception to this rule, my friend :lol:
 
Threats To Israeli Aircraft Over Iran
Winning: Threats To Israeli Aircraft Over Iran

July 8, 2013: Iranian military leaders were relieved at the recent election of the “moderate” Hassan Rowhani to replace Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as president. Rowhani is known to be a superb negotiator and someone you can reason with. Ahmadinejad was neither of those things and his constant and hysterical threats to Israel made war with Israel an ever increasing possibility. This was made worse by the growing threat of Iran developing nuclear weapons. Ahmadinejad also liked to boast of how well prepared Iran was to kick Israeli *** if it ever came to a fight. Iranian military leaders cringed at this because they knew that the military power Ahmadinejad was boasting of was largely an illusion. The constant stream of boastful press releases put out by the Iranian military were for building domestic morale, not to describe any real improvements in Iranian military capabilities. The Israeli’s knew this, as did Ahmadinejad (well, he was told) but the numerous threats against Israel caused the Israelis to threaten right back. The problem was that Israel was much more capable to attacking Iran than Iran was in defending itself.

While Israel has a huge stockpile of fuel, ammo, and other supplies for wartime (about 30 days’ worth), Iran has very little. While Iran pumps a lot of oil, it doesn’t have the refineries to produce much aircraft grade fuel. Iran has few smart bombs, missiles, and, well, not much of anything compared to Israel.

Israel can put over 500 aircraft (mostly F-15s and F-16s) a day (as in sorties) over Iran. That’s in addition to more than twice as many for any short range threat. Israel has over 25,000 smart bombs and missiles (not counting smaller missiles like Hellfire). Within a few days this Israeli air power could destroy what little Iran has in the way of major weapons systems (armored vehicles, aircraft, warships, and weapons research and manufacturing facilities). Worse, the earlier claims of Iranian military strength would not only be exposed as false but greatly diminished from what they actually were before the Israelis came by. Iranian military leaders did not want this to happen, although the senior clerics of the religious dictatorship that rules Iran saw a positive angle to an Israeli attack; it would rally all Iranians behind the generally disliked government.

The Iranian problem is that three decades of sanctions has made it impossible to replace obsolete and worn out gear or even maintain the elderly systems they have to rely on. Thus, the best defenses (anti-aircraft missiles and jet fighters) against an Israeli attack are largely absent. What is available is ancient and probably ineffective against Israeli SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses) capabilities.

For example, Iran has been having increasing problems keeping its 1970s era F-5s flying. The ones that are still flying tend to crash a lot, or not be available for use because of maintenance problems (including spare parts shortages). Spare parts for all U.S. aircraft Iran still uses have been hard to come by. Iran has managed, sort of. Nevertheless, the Iranian Air Force is largely a fraud. It has lots of aircraft that, for the most part, sit there but can't fly because of age and lack of replacement parts. Those that can fly would likely provide target practice for Israeli fighters.

The Iranian Air Force is still recovering from the effects of the 1979 revolution (which led to an embargo on spare parts and new aircraft). Despite that, many Iranian warplanes remain flyable but only for short periods. The main reason for even that is an extensive smuggling operation that obtains spare parts. Two of their aircraft, the U.S. F-4D and F-5E Tiger, were widely used around the world. Somewhere, someone had parts for these planes that Iran could buy. There are still about 40 of each in service, with less than half of them flyable at any time.

This was less the case with Iran's most expensive warplane, the U.S. F-14 Tomcat. Iran was the only export customer of this aircraft. Some F-14s have been kept flyable, despite the rumored sabotage of Iran's AIM-54 Phoenix missiles by U.S. technicians, as they were leaving. To demonstrate this, they sent 25 F-14s on a fly-over of Tehran in 1985. Today, Iran has about 20 F-14s, with less than half of them flyable.

Iran has sought to buy new foreign aircraft. In the 1990s, with the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union, they sought to buy from Russia. Despite the low prices, a combination of Western pressure (to not sell) and the lack of Iranian money for high-ticket items, not that many aircraft were obtained. One unforeseen opportunity was the 1991 Gulf War. Many Iraqi aircraft (most of them Russian-built) fled to Iran to avoid American attack. The Iranians never returned them. Iran ended up with up to 60 MiG-29s. There were also 18 Su-24s, a force that was expanded by more purchases from Russia. Black market spare parts have been available, but the MiG-29 is a notoriously difficult aircraft to maintain, even when you have all the parts you need.

Iran currently has about two hundred fighters and fighter bombers, but only about half can be put into action and then usually for only one sortie a day. The chronic shortage of spare parts limits the number of hours the aircraft can be flown. This means pilots lack good flying skills. The poor maintenance and untrained pilots leads to more accidents.

Iran is similarly ill-prepared when it comes to ground based anti-aircraft defense. Iran has managed to keep operational some of the American Hawk anti-aircraft missile systems it bought in the 1970s. But these are not very capable these days and the Israelis know all about Hawk. Iran has had limited success in buying new systems from Russia and China and, in general, is as ill-prepared as it is in the air to oppose an Israeli attack.
 
who is the writer of this article?? willi the silly??:omghaha:
Today, Iran has about 20 F-14s, with less than half of them flyable.
 
an F14 is no doubt an easy kill, however Iran will be out numbered greatly if any scenario takes place
 

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