Featured Ex PN Chief Zafar Mehmood Abbasi highlighted PN modernization

[Signalian]

So in short, there is a critical requirement for air wing for PN.

Air cover for PA and PN both, is required especially when operating in enemy territory.

 

[mzain]

one of the options for PN is a couple of frigates from Damen

 

[Yasser76]

one of the options for PN is a couple of frigates from Damen
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Could be what CNS was referring to when he announced follow in order from Damen of 6 larger ships, if PN happy with first two and the salesman showed them this brochure.....

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Could be what CNS was referring to when he announced follow in order from Damen of 6 larger ships, if PN happy with first two and the salesman showed them this brochure.....

It's worth recalling that Damen is one of those companies that frequently engages in offsets. This is why they have shipyards outside of Romania et. al.

So if the PN is contracting them another 6 ships, especially frigates (which would cost at least $2 billion USD), then some of that money will come back as FDI.

It could be a way to get Gwadar Shipyards moving. Now, if Damen-Gwadar becomes a thing, then do expect Damen to use that facility for other sales.

 

[CrazyZ]

PN needs anti ship missiles armed with tactical nuclear warheads. Both ballistic and linear trajectories. A last resort back up weapon and a very cost effective to destroy large enemy fleets.

 

[CrazyZ]

PN needs anti ship missiles armed with tactical nuclear warheads. Both ballistic and linear trajectories. A last resort back up weapon and a very cost effective to destroy large enemy fleets.

Actually under water bursts are far more damaging to surface ships......an unmanned mini sub could get close enough to wreck the core of whole naval battle group.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Thanks. Maybe PN knows this. I've been discussing UUV, SOSUS, corvettes over frigates, need for larger fleet. In every one of these cases PN has come through. It is almost as if PN reads PDF

PN, if you are listening, strike and air defense UCAVs and manned combat aircraft with legs next please. And local PDMS and medium air defense, and Turkish / local sonars please. And if you really don't mind -
Pak Corvette program - 1000 tons, 6x harbah, sonar, 6x Sams, unified aesa radar, VTOL UAV, ciws / pdms at A position.

Last but not the least - low cost drone swarm with AI.

Thank you, may Allah bless all of you. you are officially my favorite military arm.

For the UCAV...IIRC according to @PAR 5 PN is acquiring CH4.

 

[Armchair]

For the UCAV...IIRC according to @PAR 5 PN is acquiring CH4.

That is a toy compared to a proper strike ucav. Those things are meant to bomb people in uncontested airspace not in a real war b/w India and Pak.

Actually under water bursts are far more damaging to surface ships......an unmanned mini sub could get close enough to wreck the core of whole naval battle group.

This is true. US research and actual field tests show this.

 

[CrazyZ]

That is a toy compared to a proper strike ucav. Those things are meant to bomb people in uncontested airspace not in a real war b/w India and Pak.

This is true. US research and actual field tests show this.

Imagine if that unmanned mini sub had a nuclear weapon to detonate under a battle group. It would require AI, remote command and control not really feasible. You would have to trust an AI with a nuke. Skynet would be jealous.

 

[Cornered Tiger]

It's worth recalling that Damen is one of those companies that frequently engages in offsets. This is why they have shipyards outside of Romania et. al.

So if the PN is contracting them another 6 ships, especially frigates (which would cost at least $2 billion USD), then some of that money will come back as FDI.

It could be a way to get Gwadar Shipyards moving. Now, if Damen-Gwadar becomes a thing, then do expect Damen to use that facility for other sales.

Finally someone on spot. There is a new set of offset standards established under new Shipping Policy. Ground is being laid.

 

[araz]

Could be what CNS was referring to when he announced follow in order from Damen of 6 larger ships, if PN happy with first two and the salesman showed them this brochure.....

Arent they a bit too big for PN (6000Tons)? That would cost an arm and a leg. Would we not be looking at 3-4ktons range. However, let us see what transpires. We might ask them for a-baby version of this behemoth.
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[Yasser76]

Arent they a bit too big for PN (6000Tons)? That would cost an arm and a leg. Would we not be looking at 3-4ktons range. However, let us see what transpires. We might ask them for a-baby version of this behemoth.
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Chinese Frigate will be almost 5,000 tons so maybe not.

 

[Cool_Soldier]

Destroyers would be 6ooo Tons class in future acquisition on PN

 

[araz]

Chinese Frigate will be almost 5,000 tons so maybe not.

I still think it will be relatively smaller ships at the moment. However, no one knows the exact tonnage so a discussion is rather mute at this point. However as per Bilal Khan Quwa's wish if Damen set up shop in Gwadar then perhaps.....! However it seems we are buying and Developing Jcalss Frigate so 2 parallel prohrammes seem a bit excessive
Kind regards
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[HRK]

I still think it will be relatively smaller ships at the moment. However, no one knows the exact tonnage so a discussion is rather mute at this point. However as per Bilal Khan Quwa's wish if Damen set up shop in Gwadar then perhaps.....! However it seems we are buying and Developing Jcalss Frigate so 2 parallel prohrammes seem a bit excessive
Kind regards
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A variant derived from Holland Class Ocean Going Patrol Vessel 3750 [link] or beefed up version of OPV-2600 [lnk] might be the next option for PN from Damen