Ever Growing List of Indo-US Defense Deals

[notsuperstitious]

India is basing U.S Troops along israel in kashmir ...

Sometimes I feel Pakistanis have found the parallel universe scientists are looking for

 

[Capt.Popeye]

actually india has allied with u.s against china...this is naked truth....so china and pakistan need to come together

China and Pakistan can do as they please, regardless of how imaginative your "thinking" may be.
Though Pakistan should do better than to choose Amigas than just on the rebound.

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India is basing U.S Troops along israel in kashmir ...

Now your "imagination is ballooning". Watch it, the balloon may reach the moon!

 

[Zabaniyah]

Well, India didn't exactly go by American requests to stop buying oil from Iran. So, they don't agree everything with each other.

I mean, look at it this way...India went through a hard time after the collapse of the USSR. And seeing how things are now, and given difficulties such as the Kashmir issue, insurgencies, etc. they've done economically done extremely well.

It is obvious that the US intends to use India to pin against China. And I am telling you, those fat guys at the Pentagon are terrified of China. Although, I doubt if the Indians would go by the US line against Chinese interests (I hope). They have their own interests as much as the Chinese have theirs.

The bottom line is that US thinks about no one but themselves. They are a very young nation that understand extremely little about the thousands of years of civilization and culture of different countries, even given that they aren't as technologically superior as the US. That causes them to make misinformed decisions and often implement very heavy-handed approaches.

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India is basing U.S Troops along israel in kashmir ...

Israel? My friend look at the world map. They are world's apart.

More joint "focused" exercises, agreeing to base US troops.. covertly agreeing to attack Pakistan at the behest of the US..etc.
Camp means "Huzoor aap ka hukum sar ankhon par sirf jo meray faiday karey chahe abhi mujhe zaroorat ho ya na ho".

My country has done joint excercises with the USN (Operation Tiger Shark and Operation Sea Angel). Does that mean my country is going to host US troops to pin against China?

Interestingly, many of our tanks, jets and patrol boats, frigates, SAMs, etc all come from China

Russia comes number 2.

 

[SQ8]

Santro - agreeing to base US troops? Buddy you have no clue what you are saying. More likely we will hand you kashmir tomorrow

Any comment on ''covert'' ops would be speculation.

Was that just your fantasy/hope or are you trying to give the example of U.S-Pakistani relations.

That is clearer now. Not possible!
India did not spring up in the air to do that in the CENTO and SEATO era. No chance now.

p.s. your post had considerable hyperbole. India will not do anything for even substantially less. History knows that.

To start things off.
the point is, what is realistically possible when it comes to accommodating the US's desires for Asia.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

To start things off.
the point is, what is realistically possible when it comes to accommodating the US's desires for Asia.

Is'nt the relationship supposed to be about accommodating interests on both sides? Which means that congruent interests get taken care of first, then only will it be possible to consider "accommodation". But no THINKING person will accommodate something that is not in consonance with one's own interests or which may militate against one's own interests.
And have the strength, will and integrity to see that through.

 

[The enlightened]

To start things off.
the point is, what is realistically possible when it comes to accommodating the US's desires for Asia.

What are U.S desires in Asia?
This is a question that is very premature right now.
It will be governed by a number of things- the outcome of Afghanistan, China's diplomatic and strategic posture, situation in Iran, position of relationship with Russia,India, but most importantly by the economy and policy makers of the U.S itself, and as you can see; none of them are ever lasting or consistent.
Right now, she is just trying to find a honourable exit from Afghanistan.

 

[SQ8]

Santro - agreeing to base US troops? Buddy you have no clue what you are saying. More likely we will hand you kashmir tomorrow

Any comment on ''covert'' ops would be speculation.

Was that just your fantasy/hope or are you trying to give the example of U.S-Pakistani relations.

Is'nt the relationship supposed to be about accommodating interests on both sides? Which means that congruent interests get taken care of first, then only will it be possible to consider "accommodation". But no THINKING person will accommodate something that is not in consonance with one's own interests or which may militate against one's own interests.
And have the strength, will and integrity to see that through.

What are U.S desires in Asia?
This is a question that is very premature right now.
It will be governed by a number of things- the outcome of Afghanistan, China's diplomatic and strategic posture, situation in Iran, position of relationship with Russia,India, but most importantly by the economy and policy makers of the U.S itself, and as you can see; none of them are ever lasting or consistent.
Right now, she is just trying to find a honourable exit from Afghanistan.

What you are looking at however.. is an impatient "she"..
How much accommodating will "she" be when it comes to getting India to be the bullwark to China that "she" desires.
India knows well how to deal with this mistress, question is.. how much different approaches will the mistress try to get India to crack.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

What you are looking at however.. is an impatient "she"..
How much accommodating will "she" be when it comes to getting India to be the bullwark to China that "she" desires.
India knows well how to deal with this mistress, question is.. how much different approaches will the mistress try to get India to crack.

All those points may well be true. Especially the "she" bit.
Conceivably, India is now dealing with somebody of the stature of "Aunt SAMantha" rather than the "Uncle SAM" of days gone by. (in terms of relative and absolute strenghts). If we factor that in we might be able to guess how things will proceed.

 

[The enlightened]

What you are looking at however.. is an impatient "she"..
How much accommodating will "she" be when it comes to getting India to be the bullwark to China that "she" desires.
India knows well how to deal with this mistress, question is.. how much different approaches will the mistress try to get India to crack.

That is something only time can tell.
We internet warriors can only speculate aimlessly.
Btw nuff' with the 'she' bashing.
I only used it because I've got tired of westerners refering to India as a 'she' all the time.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

That is something only time can tell.
We internet warriors can only speculate aimlessly.
Btw nuff' with the 'she' bashing.
I only used it because I've got tired of westerners refering to India as a 'she' all the time.

Even the "she" bit may not be out of place. Times have changed.
But India will deal with Aunt SAMantha, keeping in mind what India needs and wants out of that relationship; then only there will be place for the accommodation.

And as you rightly said, at our level we can speculate how that will be.
About, Afghanistan, USA will clearly come around to the thinking that it needs to be handled multilaterally by many regional stake holders. Including Russia, C.A.R.s and Iran. Now consider where India comes in.
About China, USA will see some need for a containment policy (more economic in its nature). Now think where India's red-lines kick in.
About Pakistan (i.e. Indo-Pak issues), USA will leave India alone.

Thats all my crystal-ball gazing for now.

 

[tjpf]

More joint "focused" exercises, agreeing to base US troops.. covertly agreeing to attack Pakistan at the behest of the US..etc.
Camp means "Huzoor aap ka hukum sar ankhon par sirf jo meray faiday karey chahe abhi mujhe zaroorat ho ya na ho".

you get to judge and ban people based on their post and yet you come with such nonsensical points.

 

[tjpf]

What you are looking at however.. is an impatient "she"..
How much accommodating will "she" be when it comes to getting India to be the bullwark to China that "she" desires.
India knows well how to deal with this mistress, question is.. how much different approaches will the mistress try to get India to crack.

know one thing both India and China will suffer greatly economically if we dance to the tunes of USA (and wishes of Pakistan). We (indo-china) have evolved through severe hardships to reach this position and yet we have miles to go so we are well aware of the danger and well aware of the consequences. So its safe to say that apart from some bravado nothing much gonna happen b/w us.